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gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 02:56 PM

Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
the filter?


DougW 08-27-2006 03:17 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
gcotterl wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
> the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
> filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
> How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
> grab onto the filter?


Several.

http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/

--
DougW



DougW 08-27-2006 03:17 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
gcotterl wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
> the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
> filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
> How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
> grab onto the filter?


Several.

http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/

--
DougW



DougW 08-27-2006 03:17 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
gcotterl wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
> the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
> filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
> How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
> grab onto the filter?


Several.

http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/

--
DougW



DougW 08-27-2006 03:17 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
gcotterl wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
> the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
> filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
> How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
> grab onto the filter?


Several.

http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/

--
DougW



Boris 08-27-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Oil filter strap wrench will do, if you want to make a mess bang a long
sharp screwdriver through the filter and use for leverage. I did it once
....messy.
Boris
http://public.fotki.com/borysd/


<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156704991.022894.161290@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>




Boris 08-27-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Oil filter strap wrench will do, if you want to make a mess bang a long
sharp screwdriver through the filter and use for leverage. I did it once
....messy.
Boris
http://public.fotki.com/borysd/


<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156704991.022894.161290@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>




Boris 08-27-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Oil filter strap wrench will do, if you want to make a mess bang a long
sharp screwdriver through the filter and use for leverage. I did it once
....messy.
Boris
http://public.fotki.com/borysd/


<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156704991.022894.161290@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>




Boris 08-27-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Oil filter strap wrench will do, if you want to make a mess bang a long
sharp screwdriver through the filter and use for leverage. I did it once
....messy.
Boris
http://public.fotki.com/borysd/


<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156704991.022894.161290@75g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?
>




gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 04:14 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The handle on the "KD Tools Universal Oil Filter Wrench" may prevent
its use because there's not enough room around the oil filter.

I found a similar strap/band-type wrench (see below) operated by a
3/8"-drive ratchet extension that looks more promising.


http://www.doityourself.com/invt/6289409


gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 04:14 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The handle on the "KD Tools Universal Oil Filter Wrench" may prevent
its use because there's not enough room around the oil filter.

I found a similar strap/band-type wrench (see below) operated by a
3/8"-drive ratchet extension that looks more promising.


http://www.doityourself.com/invt/6289409


gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 04:14 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The handle on the "KD Tools Universal Oil Filter Wrench" may prevent
its use because there's not enough room around the oil filter.

I found a similar strap/band-type wrench (see below) operated by a
3/8"-drive ratchet extension that looks more promising.


http://www.doityourself.com/invt/6289409


gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 04:14 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The handle on the "KD Tools Universal Oil Filter Wrench" may prevent
its use because there's not enough room around the oil filter.

I found a similar strap/band-type wrench (see below) operated by a
3/8"-drive ratchet extension that looks more promising.


http://www.doityourself.com/invt/6289409


Lon 08-27-2006 04:35 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
DougW proclaimed:
> gcotterl wrote:
>
>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>grab onto the filter?

>
>
> Several.
>
> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>

If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
filter works... although a bit messy.

Lon 08-27-2006 04:35 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
DougW proclaimed:
> gcotterl wrote:
>
>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>grab onto the filter?

>
>
> Several.
>
> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>

If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
filter works... although a bit messy.

Lon 08-27-2006 04:35 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
DougW proclaimed:
> gcotterl wrote:
>
>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>grab onto the filter?

>
>
> Several.
>
> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>

If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
filter works... although a bit messy.

Lon 08-27-2006 04:35 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
DougW proclaimed:
> gcotterl wrote:
>
>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>grab onto the filter?

>
>
> Several.
>
> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>

If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
filter works... although a bit messy.

billy ray 08-27-2006 04:47 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The one I use the most looks like a cross between a huge pair of water pump
pliers and a T-Rex although I probably have a half dozen other types. It
all depends on the filter placement.

I've done the screwdriver removal several times..... very messy....

The first time I did this I found my replacement filter was the wrong kind
and I had to walk to the auto parts store.... I learned a valuable lesson
that day...


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> DougW proclaimed:
>> gcotterl wrote:
>>
>>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>>grab onto the filter?

>>
>>
>> Several.
>>
>> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>>

> If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
> filter works... although a bit messy.




billy ray 08-27-2006 04:47 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The one I use the most looks like a cross between a huge pair of water pump
pliers and a T-Rex although I probably have a half dozen other types. It
all depends on the filter placement.

I've done the screwdriver removal several times..... very messy....

The first time I did this I found my replacement filter was the wrong kind
and I had to walk to the auto parts store.... I learned a valuable lesson
that day...


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:I_adnR2TfO-Sn2_ZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> DougW proclaimed:
>> gcotterl wrote:
>>
>>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>>grab onto the filter?

>>
>>
>> Several.
>>
>> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>>

> If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
> filter works... although a bit messy.




billy ray 08-27-2006 04:47 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The one I use the most looks like a cross between a huge pair of water pump
pliers and a T-Rex although I probably have a half dozen other types. It
all depends on the filter placement.

I've done the screwdriver removal several times..... very messy....

The first time I did this I found my replacement filter was the wrong kind
and I had to walk to the auto parts store.... I learned a valuable lesson
that day...


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:I_adnR2TfO-Sn2_ZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> DougW proclaimed:
>> gcotterl wrote:
>>
>>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>>grab onto the filter?

>>
>>
>> Several.
>>
>> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>>

> If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
> filter works... although a bit messy.




billy ray 08-27-2006 04:47 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
The one I use the most looks like a cross between a huge pair of water pump
pliers and a T-Rex although I probably have a half dozen other types. It
all depends on the filter placement.

I've done the screwdriver removal several times..... very messy....

The first time I did this I found my replacement filter was the wrong kind
and I had to walk to the auto parts store.... I learned a valuable lesson
that day...


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:I_adnR2TfO-Sn2_ZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> DougW proclaimed:
>> gcotterl wrote:
>>
>>>The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
>>>the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on
>>>the filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the
>>>filter have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap.
>>>How can I unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to
>>>grab onto the filter?

>>
>>
>> Several.
>>
>> http://www.webtooltruck.com/tools/ba...detail/KDT190/
>>

> If all else fails, the big Sears screwdriver driven completely thru the
> filter works... although a bit messy.




gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 07:42 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx

I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
a socket wrench.

I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).

Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
reach the screwdriver to turn it.

Any other ideas?


gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 07:42 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx

I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
a socket wrench.

I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).

Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
reach the screwdriver to turn it.

Any other ideas?


gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 07:42 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx

I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
a socket wrench.

I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).

Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
reach the screwdriver to turn it.

Any other ideas?


gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us 08-27-2006 07:42 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:

http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx

I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
a socket wrench.

I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).

Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
reach the screwdriver to turn it.

Any other ideas?


DougW 08-27-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
gcotterl wrote:
> I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an
> 1/2" extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other
> end to a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter
> might collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever
> to turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room
> to reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?


Sounds like your filter is on way too tight. Usually I can remove
mine by hand.

The metal band type wrenches (good ones) have teeth/cuts on them
that helps grip, nylon bands tend to slip. At one point, Sears
sold one that used a rubber strap.

--
DougW



DougW 08-27-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
gcotterl wrote:
> I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an
> 1/2" extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other
> end to a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter
> might collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever
> to turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room
> to reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?


Sounds like your filter is on way too tight. Usually I can remove
mine by hand.

The metal band type wrenches (good ones) have teeth/cuts on them
that helps grip, nylon bands tend to slip. At one point, Sears
sold one that used a rubber strap.

--
DougW



DougW 08-27-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
gcotterl wrote:
> I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an
> 1/2" extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other
> end to a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter
> might collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever
> to turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room
> to reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?


Sounds like your filter is on way too tight. Usually I can remove
mine by hand.

The metal band type wrenches (good ones) have teeth/cuts on them
that helps grip, nylon bands tend to slip. At one point, Sears
sold one that used a rubber strap.

--
DougW



DougW 08-27-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
gcotterl wrote:
> I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an
> 1/2" extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other
> end to a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter
> might collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever
> to turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room
> to reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?


Sounds like your filter is on way too tight. Usually I can remove
mine by hand.

The metal band type wrenches (good ones) have teeth/cuts on them
that helps grip, nylon bands tend to slip. At one point, Sears
sold one that used a rubber strap.

--
DougW



Carl 08-27-2006 08:56 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Last time I had this problem, I sent the old lady to th store. She returned
with a tool that looked like a large pair of pliers. With 5 or 6 sharp
teeth. Squeeze it onto the filter and the teeth bite into it. It's short
enough to reach in there but long enough to get plenty of leverage and make
a breeze of the tightest filters. Grab it closer to the engine to reduce the
possibilty of twisting the cannister. If all else fails, fill the engine
back up with oil and take it to Jiffy Lube.

Carl


<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156722156.860418.188320@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>




Carl 08-27-2006 08:56 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Last time I had this problem, I sent the old lady to th store. She returned
with a tool that looked like a large pair of pliers. With 5 or 6 sharp
teeth. Squeeze it onto the filter and the teeth bite into it. It's short
enough to reach in there but long enough to get plenty of leverage and make
a breeze of the tightest filters. Grab it closer to the engine to reduce the
possibilty of twisting the cannister. If all else fails, fill the engine
back up with oil and take it to Jiffy Lube.

Carl


<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156722156.860418.188320@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>




Carl 08-27-2006 08:56 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Last time I had this problem, I sent the old lady to th store. She returned
with a tool that looked like a large pair of pliers. With 5 or 6 sharp
teeth. Squeeze it onto the filter and the teeth bite into it. It's short
enough to reach in there but long enough to get plenty of leverage and make
a breeze of the tightest filters. Grab it closer to the engine to reduce the
possibilty of twisting the cannister. If all else fails, fill the engine
back up with oil and take it to Jiffy Lube.

Carl


<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156722156.860418.188320@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>




Carl 08-27-2006 08:56 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Last time I had this problem, I sent the old lady to th store. She returned
with a tool that looked like a large pair of pliers. With 5 or 6 sharp
teeth. Squeeze it onto the filter and the teeth bite into it. It's short
enough to reach in there but long enough to get plenty of leverage and make
a breeze of the tightest filters. Grab it closer to the engine to reduce the
possibilty of twisting the cannister. If all else fails, fill the engine
back up with oil and take it to Jiffy Lube.

Carl


<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156722156.860418.188320@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>




Eric 08-27-2006 11:08 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Use the metal strap type... should be just fine. Although it's messy, the
screwdriver method will work. You don't have to turn it far -- just break
it loose. Then you can do it by hand or with the strap style you have now.
Like everyone said -- it is messy. Before I got a cap-style for my
motorcycle, I used the screwdriver method (two or three oil changes). It
worked every time but made a mess.

Eric
99 TJ SE
<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156722156.860418.188320@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>




Eric 08-27-2006 11:08 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Use the metal strap type... should be just fine. Although it's messy, the
screwdriver method will work. You don't have to turn it far -- just break
it loose. Then you can do it by hand or with the strap style you have now.
Like everyone said -- it is messy. Before I got a cap-style for my
motorcycle, I used the screwdriver method (two or three oil changes). It
worked every time but made a mess.

Eric
99 TJ SE
<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156722156.860418.188320@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>




Eric 08-27-2006 11:08 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Use the metal strap type... should be just fine. Although it's messy, the
screwdriver method will work. You don't have to turn it far -- just break
it loose. Then you can do it by hand or with the strap style you have now.
Like everyone said -- it is messy. Before I got a cap-style for my
motorcycle, I used the screwdriver method (two or three oil changes). It
worked every time but made a mess.

Eric
99 TJ SE
<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156722156.860418.188320@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>




Eric 08-27-2006 11:08 PM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 
Use the metal strap type... should be just fine. Although it's messy, the
screwdriver method will work. You don't have to turn it far -- just break
it loose. Then you can do it by hand or with the strap style you have now.
Like everyone said -- it is messy. Before I got a cap-style for my
motorcycle, I used the screwdriver method (two or three oil changes). It
worked every time but made a mess.

Eric
99 TJ SE
<gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us> wrote in message
news:1156722156.860418.188320@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>I tried the strap-type oil-filter wrench shown at:
>
> http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...h--635959.aspx
>
> I put the nylon strap around the filter and attached one end of an 1/2"
> extension-bar to the end of the oil-filter wrench and the other end to
> a socket wrench.
>
> I turned the wrench as hard as I could but the oil filter would NOT
> unscrew. (I didn't try harder because I was afraid the oil filter might
> collapse and then it'd become more of a bear to remove).
>
> Running a big screwdriver through the filter and using it as a lever to
> turn the filter sounds good but I don't think there's enough room to
> reach the screwdriver to turn it.
>
> Any other ideas?
>




merrill 08-28-2006 08:50 AM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?


I'm not sure how it could ever be that tight. I always do my own oil
changes. I put a drop of oil on the filter rubber gasket and tighten it
as snug as possible with one hand. I rarely need to use 2 hands to
remove it.

I have a good selection of filter wrenches because every vehicle I buy
seems to require one for the first oil change. My favourites are the
fluted cup (fits my 1/2 inch drive bar) and the floppy closed pliers. I
haven't used the GBF screwdriver in many years.

Merrill


merrill 08-28-2006 08:50 AM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?


I'm not sure how it could ever be that tight. I always do my own oil
changes. I put a drop of oil on the filter rubber gasket and tighten it
as snug as possible with one hand. I rarely need to use 2 hands to
remove it.

I have a good selection of filter wrenches because every vehicle I buy
seems to require one for the first oil change. My favourites are the
fluted cup (fits my 1/2 inch drive bar) and the floppy closed pliers. I
haven't used the GBF screwdriver in many years.

Merrill


merrill 08-28-2006 08:50 AM

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The last time I replaced the oil filter, I left the oil-filter cap on
> the fluted end of the filter. Now, the oil-filter cap just spins on the
> filter. I've gotten the cap off but the fluted "corners" of the filter
> have been rounded off so I don't think I can use a new cap. How can I
> unscrew the filter? Is there another tool that I can use to grab onto
> the filter?


I'm not sure how it could ever be that tight. I always do my own oil
changes. I put a drop of oil on the filter rubber gasket and tighten it
as snug as possible with one hand. I rarely need to use 2 hands to
remove it.

I have a good selection of filter wrenches because every vehicle I buy
seems to require one for the first oil change. My favourites are the
fluted cup (fits my 1/2 inch drive bar) and the floppy closed pliers. I
haven't used the GBF screwdriver in many years.

Merrill



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