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Re: oil filter mount
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:38:39 -0500, The Merg wrote:
> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I > was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. > Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole in > the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull > it apart and get pictures. > So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or > should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because > the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. > Any ideas? > > If this got sent out twice I apologize. Makes me wonder if the oil pump lost its' prime... Didn't you say the oil pressure was good to start with before you messed with anything? If the pump leaked down and lost the prime, it's shot. You can screw a mechanical guage into the hole where the sending unit mounts to check the actual pressure. Those electrical sending units are notorious for crapping out, so you likely find use for the inexpensive guage sooner or later. -- Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> |
Re: oil filter mount
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:38:39 -0500, The Merg wrote:
> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I > was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. > Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole in > the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull > it apart and get pictures. > So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or > should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because > the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. > Any ideas? > > If this got sent out twice I apologize. Makes me wonder if the oil pump lost its' prime... Didn't you say the oil pressure was good to start with before you messed with anything? If the pump leaked down and lost the prime, it's shot. You can screw a mechanical guage into the hole where the sending unit mounts to check the actual pressure. Those electrical sending units are notorious for crapping out, so you likely find use for the inexpensive guage sooner or later. -- Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> |
Re: oil filter mount
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:38:39 -0500, The Merg wrote:
> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I > was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. > Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole in > the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull > it apart and get pictures. > So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or > should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because > the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. > Any ideas? > > If this got sent out twice I apologize. Makes me wonder if the oil pump lost its' prime... Didn't you say the oil pressure was good to start with before you messed with anything? If the pump leaked down and lost the prime, it's shot. You can screw a mechanical guage into the hole where the sending unit mounts to check the actual pressure. Those electrical sending units are notorious for crapping out, so you likely find use for the inexpensive guage sooner or later. -- Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> |
Re: oil filter mount
Thanks Will, we (my father and I) were going to try a mechanical gauge,
but one of the pieces is missing, an adapter of some sort. Maybe I'll just go buy another one tomorrow. I was wondering about the oil pump, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't something else first. Would the pump have lost it's prime just from messing with the oil filter mount? Will Honea wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:38:39 -0500, The Merg wrote: > >> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I >> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. >> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole in >> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull >> it apart and get pictures. >> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or >> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because >> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. >> Any ideas? >> >> If this got sent out twice I apologize. > > Makes me wonder if the oil pump lost its' prime... > > Didn't you say the oil pressure was good to start with before you messed > with anything? If the pump leaked down and lost the prime, it's shot. You > can screw a mechanical guage into the hole where the sending unit mounts > to check the actual pressure. Those electrical sending units are > notorious for crapping out, so you likely find use for the inexpensive > guage sooner or later. > -- ÐÏ-¡±á |
Re: oil filter mount
Thanks Will, we (my father and I) were going to try a mechanical gauge,
but one of the pieces is missing, an adapter of some sort. Maybe I'll just go buy another one tomorrow. I was wondering about the oil pump, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't something else first. Would the pump have lost it's prime just from messing with the oil filter mount? Will Honea wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:38:39 -0500, The Merg wrote: > >> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I >> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. >> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole in >> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull >> it apart and get pictures. >> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or >> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because >> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. >> Any ideas? >> >> If this got sent out twice I apologize. > > Makes me wonder if the oil pump lost its' prime... > > Didn't you say the oil pressure was good to start with before you messed > with anything? If the pump leaked down and lost the prime, it's shot. You > can screw a mechanical guage into the hole where the sending unit mounts > to check the actual pressure. Those electrical sending units are > notorious for crapping out, so you likely find use for the inexpensive > guage sooner or later. > -- ÐÏ-¡±á |
Re: oil filter mount
Thanks Will, we (my father and I) were going to try a mechanical gauge,
but one of the pieces is missing, an adapter of some sort. Maybe I'll just go buy another one tomorrow. I was wondering about the oil pump, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't something else first. Would the pump have lost it's prime just from messing with the oil filter mount? Will Honea wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:38:39 -0500, The Merg wrote: > >> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I >> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. >> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole in >> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull >> it apart and get pictures. >> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or >> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because >> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. >> Any ideas? >> >> If this got sent out twice I apologize. > > Makes me wonder if the oil pump lost its' prime... > > Didn't you say the oil pressure was good to start with before you messed > with anything? If the pump leaked down and lost the prime, it's shot. You > can screw a mechanical guage into the hole where the sending unit mounts > to check the actual pressure. Those electrical sending units are > notorious for crapping out, so you likely find use for the inexpensive > guage sooner or later. > -- ÐÏ-¡±á |
Re: oil filter mount
Thanks Will, we (my father and I) were going to try a mechanical gauge,
but one of the pieces is missing, an adapter of some sort. Maybe I'll just go buy another one tomorrow. I was wondering about the oil pump, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't something else first. Would the pump have lost it's prime just from messing with the oil filter mount? Will Honea wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:38:39 -0500, The Merg wrote: > >> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I >> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. >> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole in >> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull >> it apart and get pictures. >> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or >> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because >> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. >> Any ideas? >> >> If this got sent out twice I apologize. > > Makes me wonder if the oil pump lost its' prime... > > Didn't you say the oil pressure was good to start with before you messed > with anything? If the pump leaked down and lost the prime, it's shot. You > can screw a mechanical guage into the hole where the sending unit mounts > to check the actual pressure. Those electrical sending units are > notorious for crapping out, so you likely find use for the inexpensive > guage sooner or later. > -- ÐÏ-¡±á |
Re: oil filter mount
The sensor probably is leaking - I had assumed that it got drenched
during the fixing of the filter mount, but now that I think about it, it's most likely leaking. Since I didn't know what to do about the oil pressure, I went ahead and replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires, and plugs - boy, did it need it. Started right up. I forgot to watch the temp gauge this time, and I don't really want to go cranking it over and over until I know the oil pressure is fixed. Earle Horton wrote: > If the sensor is leaking it needs replaced anyway. This may fix your > problem. As Will pointed out, you can rent or buy a mechanical gauge and a > piece of hose to check the actual pressure that you are getting. I don't > know a whole lot about the instrument panel wiring, but no the temperature > gauge isn't supposed to peg when you are cranking. > > Earle > > "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message > news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org... >> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure >> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled it, >> and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil pressure? >> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like? >> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter >> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point, and >> it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the temp >> gauge pegs - what would that mean? >> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and >> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the >> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway. >> Might as well do the coil too? >> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one >> thing after another. >> >> >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump >>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage >>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There is > an >>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the >>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a bad > oil >>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's >>> Murphy's Law. >>> >>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter >>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a > wrong >>> one now. >>> >>> Earle >>> >>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org... >>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I >>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. >>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole > in >>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull >>>> it apart and get pictures. >>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or >>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because >>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize. >>> >> -- >> ࡱ > > -- ࡱ |
Re: oil filter mount
The sensor probably is leaking - I had assumed that it got drenched
during the fixing of the filter mount, but now that I think about it, it's most likely leaking. Since I didn't know what to do about the oil pressure, I went ahead and replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires, and plugs - boy, did it need it. Started right up. I forgot to watch the temp gauge this time, and I don't really want to go cranking it over and over until I know the oil pressure is fixed. Earle Horton wrote: > If the sensor is leaking it needs replaced anyway. This may fix your > problem. As Will pointed out, you can rent or buy a mechanical gauge and a > piece of hose to check the actual pressure that you are getting. I don't > know a whole lot about the instrument panel wiring, but no the temperature > gauge isn't supposed to peg when you are cranking. > > Earle > > "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message > news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org... >> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure >> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled it, >> and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil pressure? >> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like? >> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter >> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point, and >> it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the temp >> gauge pegs - what would that mean? >> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and >> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the >> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway. >> Might as well do the coil too? >> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one >> thing after another. >> >> >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump >>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage >>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There is > an >>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the >>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a bad > oil >>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's >>> Murphy's Law. >>> >>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter >>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a > wrong >>> one now. >>> >>> Earle >>> >>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org... >>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I >>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. >>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole > in >>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull >>>> it apart and get pictures. >>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or >>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because >>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize. >>> >> -- >> ࡱ > > -- ࡱ |
Re: oil filter mount
The sensor probably is leaking - I had assumed that it got drenched
during the fixing of the filter mount, but now that I think about it, it's most likely leaking. Since I didn't know what to do about the oil pressure, I went ahead and replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires, and plugs - boy, did it need it. Started right up. I forgot to watch the temp gauge this time, and I don't really want to go cranking it over and over until I know the oil pressure is fixed. Earle Horton wrote: > If the sensor is leaking it needs replaced anyway. This may fix your > problem. As Will pointed out, you can rent or buy a mechanical gauge and a > piece of hose to check the actual pressure that you are getting. I don't > know a whole lot about the instrument panel wiring, but no the temperature > gauge isn't supposed to peg when you are cranking. > > Earle > > "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message > news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org... >> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure >> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled it, >> and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil pressure? >> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like? >> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter >> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point, and >> it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the temp >> gauge pegs - what would that mean? >> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and >> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the >> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway. >> Might as well do the coil too? >> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one >> thing after another. >> >> >> Earle Horton wrote: >>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump >>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage >>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There is > an >>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the >>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a bad > oil >>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's >>> Murphy's Law. >>> >>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter >>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a > wrong >>> one now. >>> >>> Earle >>> >>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org... >>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I >>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero. >>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole > in >>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can pull >>>> it apart and get pictures. >>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or >>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because >>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount. >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize. >>> >> -- >> ࡱ > > -- ࡱ |
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