Mike Romain

Sleestak wrote:
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > Let me suggest that perhaps in a prior life, the dipstick tube came out
> > and a PO hit it a couple of times to seat it in the block better. If this
> > is true, and on an '86 there is no reason to think it isn't true - or at
> > least possible, then the oil level might read high on the mark. The
> > crankcase holds 6 quarts. Period. If the level is above the mark, then I
> > would assume the mark is wrong.
> >
> > That motor never holds 5 quarts, it takes 6 to fill it.
>
> Thanks for the info. The manual provides that the motor holds five quarts
> with oil change, and six with filter change.

Your clock is off 12 hours or your time zone is way off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Sleestak

>
> Your clock is off 12 hours or your time zone is way off.


Thanks Mike, I think I got it fixed.

Sleestak

>
> Your clock is off 12 hours or your time zone is way off.


Thanks Mike, I think I got it fixed.

Sleestak

>
> Your clock is off 12 hours or your time zone is way off.


Thanks Mike, I think I got it fixed.

Sleestak

>
> Your clock is off 12 hours or your time zone is way off.


Thanks Mike, I think I got it fixed.

CRWLR

"Sleestak" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:10fodfn1so75186@corp.supernews.com...
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > Let me suggest that perhaps in a prior life, the dipstick tube came out
> > and a PO hit it a couple of times to seat it in the block better. If
this
> > is true, and on an '86 there is no reason to think it isn't true - or at
> > least possible, then the oil level might read high on the mark. The
> > crankcase holds 6 quarts. Period. If the level is above the mark, then I
> > would assume the mark is wrong.
> >
> > That motor never holds 5 quarts, it takes 6 to fill it.
>
>
> Thanks for the info. The manual provides that the motor holds five quarts
> with oil change, and six with filter change.


That is probably true, but as we already discussed, there is no way that the
filter holds a quart of oil.

The filter can is only about a third of the size of a quart bottle of oil,
and since the filter is full of paper, it holds less oil than would fit into
an empty filter can, or the filter can holds about a cup of oil.

The crankcase can hold 6 quarts, regardless of what might fit in the filter.
Besides, do you ever change the oil and NOT change the filter? This isn't
rocket science, having an extra cup or two of oil isn't going to hurt
anything. Having an extra quart of oil can be a problem, but the size of the
problem varies with the space available to hold the extra oil.

CRWLR

"Sleestak" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:10fodfn1so75186@corp.supernews.com...
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > Let me suggest that perhaps in a prior life, the dipstick tube came out
> > and a PO hit it a couple of times to seat it in the block better. If
this
> > is true, and on an '86 there is no reason to think it isn't true - or at
> > least possible, then the oil level might read high on the mark. The
> > crankcase holds 6 quarts. Period. If the level is above the mark, then I
> > would assume the mark is wrong.
> >
> > That motor never holds 5 quarts, it takes 6 to fill it.
>
>
> Thanks for the info. The manual provides that the motor holds five quarts
> with oil change, and six with filter change.


That is probably true, but as we already discussed, there is no way that the
filter holds a quart of oil.

The filter can is only about a third of the size of a quart bottle of oil,
and since the filter is full of paper, it holds less oil than would fit into
an empty filter can, or the filter can holds about a cup of oil.

The crankcase can hold 6 quarts, regardless of what might fit in the filter.
Besides, do you ever change the oil and NOT change the filter? This isn't
rocket science, having an extra cup or two of oil isn't going to hurt
anything. Having an extra quart of oil can be a problem, but the size of the
problem varies with the space available to hold the extra oil.

CRWLR

"Sleestak" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:10fodfn1so75186@corp.supernews.com...
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > Let me suggest that perhaps in a prior life, the dipstick tube came out
> > and a PO hit it a couple of times to seat it in the block better. If
this
> > is true, and on an '86 there is no reason to think it isn't true - or at
> > least possible, then the oil level might read high on the mark. The
> > crankcase holds 6 quarts. Period. If the level is above the mark, then I
> > would assume the mark is wrong.
> >
> > That motor never holds 5 quarts, it takes 6 to fill it.
>
>
> Thanks for the info. The manual provides that the motor holds five quarts
> with oil change, and six with filter change.


That is probably true, but as we already discussed, there is no way that the
filter holds a quart of oil.

The filter can is only about a third of the size of a quart bottle of oil,
and since the filter is full of paper, it holds less oil than would fit into
an empty filter can, or the filter can holds about a cup of oil.

The crankcase can hold 6 quarts, regardless of what might fit in the filter.
Besides, do you ever change the oil and NOT change the filter? This isn't
rocket science, having an extra cup or two of oil isn't going to hurt
anything. Having an extra quart of oil can be a problem, but the size of the
problem varies with the space available to hold the extra oil.

CRWLR

"Sleestak" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:10fodfn1so75186@corp.supernews.com...
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > Let me suggest that perhaps in a prior life, the dipstick tube came out
> > and a PO hit it a couple of times to seat it in the block better. If
this
> > is true, and on an '86 there is no reason to think it isn't true - or at
> > least possible, then the oil level might read high on the mark. The
> > crankcase holds 6 quarts. Period. If the level is above the mark, then I
> > would assume the mark is wrong.
> >
> > That motor never holds 5 quarts, it takes 6 to fill it.
>
>
> Thanks for the info. The manual provides that the motor holds five quarts
> with oil change, and six with filter change.


That is probably true, but as we already discussed, there is no way that the
filter holds a quart of oil.

The filter can is only about a third of the size of a quart bottle of oil,
and since the filter is full of paper, it holds less oil than would fit into
an empty filter can, or the filter can holds about a cup of oil.

The crankcase can hold 6 quarts, regardless of what might fit in the filter.
Besides, do you ever change the oil and NOT change the filter? This isn't
rocket science, having an extra cup or two of oil isn't going to hurt
anything. Having an extra quart of oil can be a problem, but the size of the
problem varies with the space available to hold the extra oil.

breyfogle

One more data point:

On my '83, using the short filter, 5 qt hits the dipstick "full" line, 5 1/2
qt is somewhat over and 6 qt is WAY over. Figuring that the dipstick is
mostly nonsense but not sure how far off it is, I have always spit the
difference and used 5 1/2 qts as full enough not to be too low or too full.


"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10fod53toi7ek24@corp.supernews.com...
> Let me suggest that perhaps in a prior life, the dipstick tube came out
and
> a PO hit it a couple of times to seat it in the block better. If this is
> true, and on an '86 there is no reason to think it isn't true - or at
least
> possible, then the oil level might read high on the mark. The crankcase
> holds 6 quarts. Period. If the level is above the mark, then I would
assume
> the mark is wrong.
>
> That motor never holds 5 quarts, it takes 6 to fill it.
>
>
>
>
> "Sleestak" <here@there.com> wrote in message
> news:10fni06qi8be428@corp.supernews.com...
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> > > Sleestak did pass the time by typing:
> > >> The Jeep 258 motor holds 5 quarts or, 6 with filter change. However,
> > >> there is no way the tiny Jeep filter holds a full quart -- maybe 1/2,
> if
> > >> that. When I change the oil and filter and add 6 quarts, the oil
level
> is
> > >> above
> > >> the fill mark. So I am thinking of going with 5 1/2 quarts in the
> > >> crankcase. Any problems with this, or anybody think its a bad idea?
> > >> Thanks.
> > >
> > > Use what puts the oil level at the full mark after it has been ran for
> > > a few minutes then left to sit for a bit.
> > >
> > > I just put in six quarts (new filter every time) and the oil level
comes
> > > out just a teeny bit below the full mark.
> > >
> > > Filters I use are PL14670.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. I'm going to look into a different filter, I
think.
>
>