billy ray

When will you start paying for WWI?

>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> > and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada
> for
>> > World War 2 finally this month.
>> > Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
>> buck
>> > a dead soldier.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> > news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
>> assets
>> > > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can
> call
>> > up
>> > > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other
>> > > arenas,
>> > > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
>> > > manager !
>> > >
>> > > Dave
>> > >
>> > > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>> > > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they
> damned
>> > well
>> > > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that
>> > > > way.
>> > When
>> > > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
>> some
>> > > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you
> consider
>> > the
>> > > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in
>> > > > other
>> > > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British
> and
>> > > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

When will you start paying for WWI?

>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> > and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada
> for
>> > World War 2 finally this month.
>> > Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
>> buck
>> > a dead soldier.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> > news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
>> assets
>> > > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can
> call
>> > up
>> > > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other
>> > > arenas,
>> > > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
>> > > manager !
>> > >
>> > > Dave
>> > >
>> > > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>> > > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they
> damned
>> > well
>> > > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that
>> > > > way.
>> > When
>> > > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
>> some
>> > > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you
> consider
>> > the
>> > > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in
>> > > > other
>> > > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British
> and
>> > > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

When will you start paying for WWI?

>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> > and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada
> for
>> > World War 2 finally this month.
>> > Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
>> buck
>> > a dead soldier.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> > news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> > > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
>> assets
>> > > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can
> call
>> > up
>> > > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other
>> > > arenas,
>> > > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
>> > > manager !
>> > >
>> > > Dave
>> > >
>> > > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
>> > > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they
> damned
>> > well
>> > > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that
>> > > > way.
>> > When
>> > > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
>> some
>> > > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you
> consider
>> > the
>> > > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in
>> > > > other
>> > > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British
> and
>> > > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Herb Leong

In article <1167355437.267307.47480@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.c om>,
The Merg <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote:
#from one of the Annapolis guys that the enlisted guys "really get
#screwed" because of the low pay coupled with the deductions.

I don't know about housing, but I know the Navy does deduct money
for the uniforms they issue you.

/herb

Herb Leong

In article <1167355437.267307.47480@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.c om>,
The Merg <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote:
#from one of the Annapolis guys that the enlisted guys "really get
#screwed" because of the low pay coupled with the deductions.

I don't know about housing, but I know the Navy does deduct money
for the uniforms they issue you.

/herb

Herb Leong

In article <1167355437.267307.47480@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.c om>,
The Merg <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote:
#from one of the Annapolis guys that the enlisted guys "really get
#screwed" because of the low pay coupled with the deductions.

I don't know about housing, but I know the Navy does deduct money
for the uniforms they issue you.

/herb

Lon

Herb Leong proclaimed:

> In article <1167355437.267307.47480@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.c om>,
> The Merg <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote:
> #from one of the Annapolis guys that the enlisted guys "really get
> #screwed" because of the low pay coupled with the deductions.
>
> I don't know about housing, but I know the Navy does deduct money
> for the uniforms they issue you.

In the Army the initial set of uniforms was free. After that you got a
monthly uniform allowance and were responsible for replacing any part of
your uniform as required and keeping them serviceable. When you left
the service, any piece of your uniform that was missing, altered beyond
limits, etc. was deducted from your pay at prices from the quartermaster
store.

Lon

Herb Leong proclaimed:

> In article <1167355437.267307.47480@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.c om>,
> The Merg <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote:
> #from one of the Annapolis guys that the enlisted guys "really get
> #screwed" because of the low pay coupled with the deductions.
>
> I don't know about housing, but I know the Navy does deduct money
> for the uniforms they issue you.

In the Army the initial set of uniforms was free. After that you got a
monthly uniform allowance and were responsible for replacing any part of
your uniform as required and keeping them serviceable. When you left
the service, any piece of your uniform that was missing, altered beyond
limits, etc. was deducted from your pay at prices from the quartermaster
store.

Lon

Herb Leong proclaimed:

> In article <1167355437.267307.47480@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.c om>,
> The Merg <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote:
> #from one of the Annapolis guys that the enlisted guys "really get
> #screwed" because of the low pay coupled with the deductions.
>
> I don't know about housing, but I know the Navy does deduct money
> for the uniforms they issue you.

In the Army the initial set of uniforms was free. After that you got a
monthly uniform allowance and were responsible for replacing any part of
your uniform as required and keeping them serviceable. When you left
the service, any piece of your uniform that was missing, altered beyond
limits, etc. was deducted from your pay at prices from the quartermaster
store.

Matt Macchiarolo

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:88e28$459494a7$422afc51$16675@FUSE.NET...
> Only one of the two main political parties regularly votes against pay
> raises for the military.
>

You're drinking the Kool Aid again...the pay raises that the GOP likes are
ridiculous:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006...ary-brass.html

> It is the same one that nominated a candidate who said only people too
> stupid to get a job at McDonalds joined the military.

What he said was stupid, but that's not what he said, run your fact checker.

>
> This group is also the one that tried to disallow all the ballots from
> deployed soldiers in the pas couple elections.
>
Not in 92, when Clinton was helped by all the military personell who lost
confidence in Bush Sr for not getting Saddam in '91 when they could have.

>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:l0Wkh.22393$k74.22059@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> One thing I never understand about the US - you constantly praise your
>> military (with justification) and yet you pay them appallingly.
>> A British raw recruit gets USD 23770 (US E1 gets 15272) and a Sergeant
>> (8
>> years) gets 52267 (US E8 with 8 years gets USD 39504).
>> That really sucks.
>>
>> http://usmilitary.about.com/library/...enlbasepay.htm
>> http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/RegularAr...Leave/Soldier/
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>
>>
>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4590CC0B.6D96A629@***.net...
>>> Twas the night before Christmas
>>> He lived all alone
>>> In a one bedroom house made of
>>> Plaster and Stone
>>> I had come down the Chimney
>>> With presents to give.
>>> And to see just who
>>> In this home did live.
>>> I looked all about
>>> A strange sight I did see.
>>> No tinsel, No presents,
>>> Not even a tree.
>>> No stocking by the mantle,
>>> Just boots filled with sand.
>>> On the wall hung pictures
>>> Of far distant lands.
>>> With medals and badges,
>>> Awards of all kinds,
>>> A sober thought
>>> Came through my mind.
>>> For this house was different,
>>> It was dark and dreary,
>>> I found the home of a soldier,
>>> Once I could see clearly.
>>> The soldier lay sleeping,
>>> Silent, alone,
>>> Curled up on the floor
>>> In this one bedroom home.
>>> The face was so gentle,
>>> The room in such disorder,
>>> Not how I pictured
>>> A United States Soldier.
>>> Was this the hero
>>> Of whom I'd just read?
>>> Curled up on a Poncho,
>>> The floor for a bed?
>>> I realized the families
>>> That I saw this night,
>>> Owed their lives to these soldiers
>>> Who were willing to fight.
>>> Soon round the world,
>>> The children would play,
>>> And grownup would celebrate
>>> A bright Christmas Day.
>>> They all enjoyed freedom
>>> Each month of the year,
>>> Because of the soldiers,
>>> Like the one lying here.
>>> I couldn't help wonder
>>> How many lay alone,
>>> On a cold Christmas Eve
>>> In a land far from home.
>>> The very thought
>>> Brought a tear to my eye,
>>> I dropped to my knees
>>> And started to Cry.
>>> The soldier awakened
>>> And I heard a rough voice,
>>> "Santa don't cry,
>>> This life is my choice."
>>> The solider rolled over
>>> And drifted to sleep,
>>> I couldn't control it,
>>> I continued to weep.
>>> I kept watch for hours,
>>> So silent and still
>>> And we both shivered
>>> >From the cold nights chill.
>>> I didn't want to leave
>>> On that cold, dark, night,
>>> This guardian of Honor
>>> So willing to fight.
>>> The solider rolled over,
>>> With a voice soft and pure,
>>> Whispered, "Carry on Santa,
>>> It's Christmas Day, All is secure."
>>> One look at my watch,
>>> And I knew he was right.
>>> "Merry Christmas my friend,
>>> And to all a good night."
>>
>>
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