Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada for
World War 2 finally this month.
Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a buck
a dead soldier.

Dave

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of assets
> worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can call
up
> an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other arenas,
> someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
> manager !
>
> Dave
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they damned
well
> > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that way.
When
> > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has some
> > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you consider
the
> > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in other
> > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British and
> > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada for
World War 2 finally this month.
Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a buck
a dead soldier.

Dave

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of assets
> worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can call
up
> an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other arenas,
> someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
> manager !
>
> Dave
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they damned
well
> > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that way.
When
> > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has some
> > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you consider
the
> > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in other
> > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British and
> > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

Well Dave, now that WWII is paid off, I guess we can afford another one!

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada for
> World War 2 finally this month.
> Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
buck
> a dead soldier.
>
> Dave
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
assets
> > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can call
> up
> > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other arenas,
> > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
> > manager !
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they damned
> well
> > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that way.
> When
> > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
some
> > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you consider
> the
> > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in other
> > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British and
> > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

Well Dave, now that WWII is paid off, I guess we can afford another one!

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada for
> World War 2 finally this month.
> Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
buck
> a dead soldier.
>
> Dave
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
assets
> > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can call
> up
> > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other arenas,
> > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
> > manager !
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they damned
> well
> > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that way.
> When
> > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
some
> > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you consider
> the
> > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in other
> > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British and
> > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

Well Dave, now that WWII is paid off, I guess we can afford another one!

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada for
> World War 2 finally this month.
> Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
buck
> a dead soldier.
>
> Dave
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
assets
> > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can call
> up
> > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other arenas,
> > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
> > manager !
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they damned
> well
> > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that way.
> When
> > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
some
> > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you consider
> the
> > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in other
> > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British and
> > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

I seriously wonder if wars can be won without bombing civilians. We bombed
the hell out of industrial Germany and Japan and won. Since then, has not
every guerilla/--------- war been a loss ?

Dave Milne

"Earle Horton" <Earle@spammers_me_enojan.usa> wrote in message
news:45955120$0$3435$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Well Dave, now that WWII is paid off, I guess we can afford another one!
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada
for
> > World War 2 finally this month.
> > Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
> buck
> > a dead soldier.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
> assets
> > > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can
call
> > up
> > > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other arenas,
> > > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
> > > manager !
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they
damned
> > well
> > > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that way.
> > When
> > > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
> some
> > > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you
consider
> > the
> > > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in other
> > > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British
and
> > > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

I seriously wonder if wars can be won without bombing civilians. We bombed
the hell out of industrial Germany and Japan and won. Since then, has not
every guerilla/--------- war been a loss ?

Dave Milne

"Earle Horton" <Earle@spammers_me_enojan.usa> wrote in message
news:45955120$0$3435$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Well Dave, now that WWII is paid off, I guess we can afford another one!
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada
for
> > World War 2 finally this month.
> > Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
> buck
> > a dead soldier.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
> assets
> > > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can
call
> > up
> > > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other arenas,
> > > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
> > > manager !
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they
damned
> > well
> > > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that way.
> > When
> > > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
> some
> > > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you
consider
> > the
> > > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in other
> > > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British
and
> > > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

I seriously wonder if wars can be won without bombing civilians. We bombed
the hell out of industrial Germany and Japan and won. Since then, has not
every guerilla/--------- war been a loss ?

Dave Milne

"Earle Horton" <Earle@spammers_me_enojan.usa> wrote in message
news:45955120$0$3435$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Well Dave, now that WWII is paid off, I guess we can afford another one!
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada
for
> > World War 2 finally this month.
> > Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about a
> buck
> > a dead soldier.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
> assets
> > > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can
call
> > up
> > > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other arenas,
> > > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a senior
> > > manager !
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they
damned
> > well
> > > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that way.
> > When
> > > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
> some
> > > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you
consider
> > the
> > > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in other
> > > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British
and
> > > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

"Civilians" benefit more than soldiers from the effects of war. It stands
to reason, that beating the hell out of soldiers doesn't do much to resolve
whatever problems caused the war in the first place. It's like a boxing
match, where you're only allowed to hit your opponent's fists. If you want
to win, you go for the head. That's why I find the idea of rules of
engagement cynical in the extreme. It just prolongs the misery, resulting
in more damage in the end.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:GSblh.22673$k74.1979@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I seriously wonder if wars can be won without bombing civilians. We bombed
> the hell out of industrial Germany and Japan and won. Since then, has not
> every guerilla/--------- war been a loss ?
>
> Dave Milne
>
> "Earle Horton" <Earle@spammers_me_enojan.usa> wrote in message
> news:45955120$0$3435$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> > Well Dave, now that WWII is paid off, I guess we can afford another one!
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada
> for
> > > World War 2 finally this month.
> > > Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about
a
> > buck
> > > a dead soldier.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
> > assets
> > > > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can
> call
> > > up
> > > > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other
arenas,
> > > > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a
senior
> > > > manager !
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they
> damned
> > > well
> > > > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that
way.
> > > When
> > > > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
> > some
> > > > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you
> consider
> > > the
> > > > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in
other
> > > > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British
> and
> > > > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Off Topic: Twas the night before Christmas
 

"Civilians" benefit more than soldiers from the effects of war. It stands
to reason, that beating the hell out of soldiers doesn't do much to resolve
whatever problems caused the war in the first place. It's like a boxing
match, where you're only allowed to hit your opponent's fists. If you want
to win, you go for the head. That's why I find the idea of rules of
engagement cynical in the extreme. It just prolongs the misery, resulting
in more damage in the end.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:GSblh.22673$k74.1979@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I seriously wonder if wars can be won without bombing civilians. We bombed
> the hell out of industrial Germany and Japan and won. Since then, has not
> every guerilla/--------- war been a loss ?
>
> Dave Milne
>
> "Earle Horton" <Earle@spammers_me_enojan.usa> wrote in message
> news:45955120$0$3435$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> > Well Dave, now that WWII is paid off, I guess we can afford another one!
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:IR5lh.22560$k74.9193@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > and on a slightly related note, we finish paying off the US and Canada
> for
> > > World War 2 finally this month.
> > > Germany had to pay $20 billion in reparations in total which is about
a
> > buck
> > > a dead soldier.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> > > news:5E5lh.22555$k74.12417@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > > > I agree. I also suspect that the average US soldier is in charge of
> > assets
> > > > worth more than the British soldier, and if I'm not wrong, many can
> call
> > > up
> > > > an airstrike at a cost of many millions a time ? In most other
arenas,
> > > > someone who could sign off that type of expenditure would be a
senior
> > > > manager !
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4594c673$0$63458$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > > > I don't begrudge military retirees a penny of their pay - they
> damned
> > > well
> > > > > earned it. I separated before retirement but I still feel that
way.
> > > When
> > > > > the government gets around to granting a pay raise, it usually has
> > some
> > > > > catchup element to it so it averages out, especially when you
> consider
> > > the
> > > > > value of the benefits after retirement. It must be similar in
other
> > > > > countries - I can recall making considerably more than my British
> and
> > > > > Aussie contemporaries at one time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>