Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
10-21-2006, 05:57 AM
#31
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Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
The Al-Qa'ida Jihad have sworn to kill all Americans, and we use
cameras on our gun ships, so to see another enemy evaporated, some how
relieves some of the vengeance I feel for what they have done to us:
http://members.***.net/----------/iraqTerrorist.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bizbee wrote:
>
> But I'm sure showing an Iraqi or whoever, being shot by an American
> sniper is ok...
cameras on our gun ships, so to see another enemy evaporated, some how
relieves some of the vengeance I feel for what they have done to us:
http://members.***.net/----------/iraqTerrorist.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
bizbee wrote:
>
> But I'm sure showing an Iraqi or whoever, being shot by an American
> sniper is ok...
10-21-2006, 11:19 AM
#32
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Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
things and kill people without paying for it later.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
away
> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
> both sides.
>
> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
policy,
> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
> that does it best wins.......
>
> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and the
> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
> > The
> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
be
> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will make
> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without the
> > intense media scrutiny.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
> >> Bill and Earle....
> >>
> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
murder
> > of
> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
> >> the
> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
> >>
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
Americans
> >> > won't cut and run.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill,
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
> > about
> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
day.
> >> >> That
> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
> >> >> gutted
> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money for
> >> >> police,
> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
an
> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
> >> >> Republicans
> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
are
> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me that
> >> >> at
> >> >> least one is.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
> > their
> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
spree
> >> >> that
> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
difficult
> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
--
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facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
things and kill people without paying for it later.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
away
> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
> both sides.
>
> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
policy,
> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
> that does it best wins.......
>
> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and the
> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
> > The
> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
be
> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will make
> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without the
> > intense media scrutiny.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
> >> Bill and Earle....
> >>
> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
murder
> > of
> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
> >> the
> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
> >>
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
Americans
> >> > won't cut and run.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill,
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
> > about
> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
day.
> >> >> That
> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
> >> >> gutted
> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money for
> >> >> police,
> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
an
> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
> >> >> Republicans
> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
are
> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me that
> >> >> at
> >> >> least one is.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
> > their
> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
spree
> >> >> that
> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
difficult
> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
--
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10-21-2006, 11:19 AM
#33
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Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
things and kill people without paying for it later.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
away
> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
> both sides.
>
> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
policy,
> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
> that does it best wins.......
>
> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and the
> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
> > The
> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
be
> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will make
> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without the
> > intense media scrutiny.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
> >> Bill and Earle....
> >>
> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
murder
> > of
> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
> >> the
> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
> >>
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
Americans
> >> > won't cut and run.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill,
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
> > about
> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
day.
> >> >> That
> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
> >> >> gutted
> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money for
> >> >> police,
> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
an
> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
> >> >> Republicans
> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
are
> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me that
> >> >> at
> >> >> least one is.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
> > their
> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
spree
> >> >> that
> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
difficult
> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
--
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facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
things and kill people without paying for it later.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
away
> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
> both sides.
>
> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
policy,
> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
> that does it best wins.......
>
> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and the
> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
> > The
> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
be
> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will make
> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without the
> > intense media scrutiny.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
> >> Bill and Earle....
> >>
> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
murder
> > of
> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
> >> the
> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
> >>
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
Americans
> >> > won't cut and run.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill,
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
> > about
> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
day.
> >> >> That
> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
> >> >> gutted
> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money for
> >> >> police,
> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
an
> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
> >> >> Republicans
> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
are
> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me that
> >> >> at
> >> >> least one is.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
> > their
> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
spree
> >> >> that
> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
difficult
> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
--
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10-21-2006, 11:19 AM
#34
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Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
things and kill people without paying for it later.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
away
> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
> both sides.
>
> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
policy,
> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
> that does it best wins.......
>
> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and the
> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
> > The
> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
be
> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will make
> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without the
> > intense media scrutiny.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
> >> Bill and Earle....
> >>
> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
murder
> > of
> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
> >> the
> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
> >>
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
Americans
> >> > won't cut and run.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill,
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
> > about
> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
day.
> >> >> That
> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
> >> >> gutted
> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money for
> >> >> police,
> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
an
> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
> >> >> Republicans
> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
are
> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me that
> >> >> at
> >> >> least one is.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
> > their
> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
spree
> >> >> that
> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
difficult
> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
--
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facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
things and kill people without paying for it later.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
away
> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
> both sides.
>
> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
policy,
> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
> that does it best wins.......
>
> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and the
> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
> > The
> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
be
> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will make
> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without the
> > intense media scrutiny.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
> >> Bill and Earle....
> >>
> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
murder
> > of
> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
> >> the
> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
> >>
> >>
> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
Americans
> >> > won't cut and run.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Bill,
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
> > about
> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
day.
> >> >> That
> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
> >> >> gutted
> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money for
> >> >> police,
> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
an
> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
> >> >> Republicans
> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
are
> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me that
> >> >> at
> >> >> least one is.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
> > their
> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
spree
> >> >> that
> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
difficult
> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
> >> >>
> >> >> Earle
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
--
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10-21-2006, 01:01 PM
#35
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Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
Exactly.... but then the numbers aren't what you have been led to believe.
Thursday night while I was switching through the channels I paused for a
moment on Katie Couric as she was saying that after the commercial the story
would be about mentally ill soldiers being redeployed to combat.
As this was of interest to me I waited for the report. Katie claimed that
15% of soldiers had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and they were routinely
being redeployed.
Their expert claimed that returning a soldier to active duty was improper
treatment..... needless to say they neglected to offer what their expert's
qualifications were. His proscribed treatment was apparently hand holding
and collecting a government check.
They managed to find 3 soldiers diagnoses with PTSD that were reassigned to
their former units on active duty.
One soldier was never interviewed but his father showed Katie letters he had
written from the front detailing his fears. The father admitted that the son
never requested other non combat duty or a medical release from the service
or made any other complaint. His son was complying and participating in the
Army's treatment program.
The second soldier made it clear that this was an unjust war against a
sovereign country and his problems were all cause by persons in authority
and he was a powerless dupe of the military-industrial complex. I had some
reason to question his actual situation and motives that were. of course,
caused by class prejudice as he was covered with home made 'jail' tattoos
and claiming all sorts of problems not being addressed by the VA.
The final soldier's family basically told Katie "****-off commie, our son
requested to returned to his unit - to active duty"
Now back to Katie's expert that no one has ever heard of before.... His
contention was re-exposure to traumatic conditions is contra-indicated and
endangered the other members of his squad implying, in his opinion, that
these soldiers will refuse to act in emergency situations.
The currently accepted treatment for PTSD is:
1. Initial rest
2. Psychotherapy to remember, recognize, and accept what happened.
3. Anti-Depressant therapy as needed.
4. Re-exposure to the location the trauma occurred.
Failure to re-expose someone to the location of trauma only serves to
reinforces the trauma's ill effects. Along with the other steps it follows
the old adage to 'Get back on that horse that threw you ASAP or you will
live in fear the rest of your life."
Given the choice of a combat veteran with treated PTSD and a whiny, hand
wringing, oh the humanity!, tree hugger who only joined to get money for
school soldier I would take the combat veteran ANY time as he is more likely
to shoot first and ask questions later when exposed to a situation where the
difference between MY life and death is a fraction of a second.
As a final interesting not just the night before the CBS news broadcast a
report on PTSD treatment that contradicted their expert the following night.
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:453a2db1$0$19660$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
> facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
> things and kill people without paying for it later.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
>> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
>> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
> away
>> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
>> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
>> both sides.
>>
>> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
> policy,
>> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
>> that does it best wins.......
>>
>> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
>> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and
>> > the
>> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
>> > The
>> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
> be
>> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will
>> > make
>> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without
>> > the
>> > intense media scrutiny.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Bill and Earle....
>> >>
>> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
> murder
>> > of
>> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
>> >> the
>> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
>> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
>> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
> Americans
>> >> > won't cut and run.
>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
>> > about
>> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
> day.
>> >> >> That
>> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
>> >> >> gutted
>> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> police,
>> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
> an
>> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
>> >> >> Republicans
>> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
> are
>> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least one is.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
>> > their
>> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
> spree
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
> difficult
>> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
Thursday night while I was switching through the channels I paused for a
moment on Katie Couric as she was saying that after the commercial the story
would be about mentally ill soldiers being redeployed to combat.
As this was of interest to me I waited for the report. Katie claimed that
15% of soldiers had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and they were routinely
being redeployed.
Their expert claimed that returning a soldier to active duty was improper
treatment..... needless to say they neglected to offer what their expert's
qualifications were. His proscribed treatment was apparently hand holding
and collecting a government check.
They managed to find 3 soldiers diagnoses with PTSD that were reassigned to
their former units on active duty.
One soldier was never interviewed but his father showed Katie letters he had
written from the front detailing his fears. The father admitted that the son
never requested other non combat duty or a medical release from the service
or made any other complaint. His son was complying and participating in the
Army's treatment program.
The second soldier made it clear that this was an unjust war against a
sovereign country and his problems were all cause by persons in authority
and he was a powerless dupe of the military-industrial complex. I had some
reason to question his actual situation and motives that were. of course,
caused by class prejudice as he was covered with home made 'jail' tattoos
and claiming all sorts of problems not being addressed by the VA.
The final soldier's family basically told Katie "****-off commie, our son
requested to returned to his unit - to active duty"
Now back to Katie's expert that no one has ever heard of before.... His
contention was re-exposure to traumatic conditions is contra-indicated and
endangered the other members of his squad implying, in his opinion, that
these soldiers will refuse to act in emergency situations.
The currently accepted treatment for PTSD is:
1. Initial rest
2. Psychotherapy to remember, recognize, and accept what happened.
3. Anti-Depressant therapy as needed.
4. Re-exposure to the location the trauma occurred.
Failure to re-expose someone to the location of trauma only serves to
reinforces the trauma's ill effects. Along with the other steps it follows
the old adage to 'Get back on that horse that threw you ASAP or you will
live in fear the rest of your life."
Given the choice of a combat veteran with treated PTSD and a whiny, hand
wringing, oh the humanity!, tree hugger who only joined to get money for
school soldier I would take the combat veteran ANY time as he is more likely
to shoot first and ask questions later when exposed to a situation where the
difference between MY life and death is a fraction of a second.
As a final interesting not just the night before the CBS news broadcast a
report on PTSD treatment that contradicted their expert the following night.
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:453a2db1$0$19660$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
> facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
> things and kill people without paying for it later.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
>> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
>> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
> away
>> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
>> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
>> both sides.
>>
>> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
> policy,
>> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
>> that does it best wins.......
>>
>> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
>> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and
>> > the
>> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
>> > The
>> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
> be
>> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will
>> > make
>> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without
>> > the
>> > intense media scrutiny.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Bill and Earle....
>> >>
>> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
> murder
>> > of
>> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
>> >> the
>> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
>> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
>> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
> Americans
>> >> > won't cut and run.
>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
>> > about
>> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
> day.
>> >> >> That
>> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
>> >> >> gutted
>> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> police,
>> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
> an
>> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
>> >> >> Republicans
>> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
> are
>> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least one is.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
>> > their
>> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
> spree
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
> difficult
>> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
10-21-2006, 01:01 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
Exactly.... but then the numbers aren't what you have been led to believe.
Thursday night while I was switching through the channels I paused for a
moment on Katie Couric as she was saying that after the commercial the story
would be about mentally ill soldiers being redeployed to combat.
As this was of interest to me I waited for the report. Katie claimed that
15% of soldiers had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and they were routinely
being redeployed.
Their expert claimed that returning a soldier to active duty was improper
treatment..... needless to say they neglected to offer what their expert's
qualifications were. His proscribed treatment was apparently hand holding
and collecting a government check.
They managed to find 3 soldiers diagnoses with PTSD that were reassigned to
their former units on active duty.
One soldier was never interviewed but his father showed Katie letters he had
written from the front detailing his fears. The father admitted that the son
never requested other non combat duty or a medical release from the service
or made any other complaint. His son was complying and participating in the
Army's treatment program.
The second soldier made it clear that this was an unjust war against a
sovereign country and his problems were all cause by persons in authority
and he was a powerless dupe of the military-industrial complex. I had some
reason to question his actual situation and motives that were. of course,
caused by class prejudice as he was covered with home made 'jail' tattoos
and claiming all sorts of problems not being addressed by the VA.
The final soldier's family basically told Katie "****-off commie, our son
requested to returned to his unit - to active duty"
Now back to Katie's expert that no one has ever heard of before.... His
contention was re-exposure to traumatic conditions is contra-indicated and
endangered the other members of his squad implying, in his opinion, that
these soldiers will refuse to act in emergency situations.
The currently accepted treatment for PTSD is:
1. Initial rest
2. Psychotherapy to remember, recognize, and accept what happened.
3. Anti-Depressant therapy as needed.
4. Re-exposure to the location the trauma occurred.
Failure to re-expose someone to the location of trauma only serves to
reinforces the trauma's ill effects. Along with the other steps it follows
the old adage to 'Get back on that horse that threw you ASAP or you will
live in fear the rest of your life."
Given the choice of a combat veteran with treated PTSD and a whiny, hand
wringing, oh the humanity!, tree hugger who only joined to get money for
school soldier I would take the combat veteran ANY time as he is more likely
to shoot first and ask questions later when exposed to a situation where the
difference between MY life and death is a fraction of a second.
As a final interesting not just the night before the CBS news broadcast a
report on PTSD treatment that contradicted their expert the following night.
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:453a2db1$0$19660$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
> facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
> things and kill people without paying for it later.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
>> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
>> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
> away
>> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
>> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
>> both sides.
>>
>> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
> policy,
>> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
>> that does it best wins.......
>>
>> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
>> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and
>> > the
>> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
>> > The
>> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
> be
>> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will
>> > make
>> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without
>> > the
>> > intense media scrutiny.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Bill and Earle....
>> >>
>> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
> murder
>> > of
>> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
>> >> the
>> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
>> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
>> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
> Americans
>> >> > won't cut and run.
>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
>> > about
>> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
> day.
>> >> >> That
>> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
>> >> >> gutted
>> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> police,
>> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
> an
>> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
>> >> >> Republicans
>> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
> are
>> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least one is.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
>> > their
>> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
> spree
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
> difficult
>> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
Thursday night while I was switching through the channels I paused for a
moment on Katie Couric as she was saying that after the commercial the story
would be about mentally ill soldiers being redeployed to combat.
As this was of interest to me I waited for the report. Katie claimed that
15% of soldiers had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and they were routinely
being redeployed.
Their expert claimed that returning a soldier to active duty was improper
treatment..... needless to say they neglected to offer what their expert's
qualifications were. His proscribed treatment was apparently hand holding
and collecting a government check.
They managed to find 3 soldiers diagnoses with PTSD that were reassigned to
their former units on active duty.
One soldier was never interviewed but his father showed Katie letters he had
written from the front detailing his fears. The father admitted that the son
never requested other non combat duty or a medical release from the service
or made any other complaint. His son was complying and participating in the
Army's treatment program.
The second soldier made it clear that this was an unjust war against a
sovereign country and his problems were all cause by persons in authority
and he was a powerless dupe of the military-industrial complex. I had some
reason to question his actual situation and motives that were. of course,
caused by class prejudice as he was covered with home made 'jail' tattoos
and claiming all sorts of problems not being addressed by the VA.
The final soldier's family basically told Katie "****-off commie, our son
requested to returned to his unit - to active duty"
Now back to Katie's expert that no one has ever heard of before.... His
contention was re-exposure to traumatic conditions is contra-indicated and
endangered the other members of his squad implying, in his opinion, that
these soldiers will refuse to act in emergency situations.
The currently accepted treatment for PTSD is:
1. Initial rest
2. Psychotherapy to remember, recognize, and accept what happened.
3. Anti-Depressant therapy as needed.
4. Re-exposure to the location the trauma occurred.
Failure to re-expose someone to the location of trauma only serves to
reinforces the trauma's ill effects. Along with the other steps it follows
the old adage to 'Get back on that horse that threw you ASAP or you will
live in fear the rest of your life."
Given the choice of a combat veteran with treated PTSD and a whiny, hand
wringing, oh the humanity!, tree hugger who only joined to get money for
school soldier I would take the combat veteran ANY time as he is more likely
to shoot first and ask questions later when exposed to a situation where the
difference between MY life and death is a fraction of a second.
As a final interesting not just the night before the CBS news broadcast a
report on PTSD treatment that contradicted their expert the following night.
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:453a2db1$0$19660$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
> facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
> things and kill people without paying for it later.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
>> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
>> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
> away
>> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
>> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
>> both sides.
>>
>> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
> policy,
>> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
>> that does it best wins.......
>>
>> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
>> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and
>> > the
>> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
>> > The
>> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
> be
>> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will
>> > make
>> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without
>> > the
>> > intense media scrutiny.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Bill and Earle....
>> >>
>> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
> murder
>> > of
>> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
>> >> the
>> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
>> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
>> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
> Americans
>> >> > won't cut and run.
>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
>> > about
>> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
> day.
>> >> >> That
>> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
>> >> >> gutted
>> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> police,
>> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
> an
>> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
>> >> >> Republicans
>> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
> are
>> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least one is.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
>> > their
>> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
> spree
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
> difficult
>> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
10-21-2006, 01:01 PM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
Exactly.... but then the numbers aren't what you have been led to believe.
Thursday night while I was switching through the channels I paused for a
moment on Katie Couric as she was saying that after the commercial the story
would be about mentally ill soldiers being redeployed to combat.
As this was of interest to me I waited for the report. Katie claimed that
15% of soldiers had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and they were routinely
being redeployed.
Their expert claimed that returning a soldier to active duty was improper
treatment..... needless to say they neglected to offer what their expert's
qualifications were. His proscribed treatment was apparently hand holding
and collecting a government check.
They managed to find 3 soldiers diagnoses with PTSD that were reassigned to
their former units on active duty.
One soldier was never interviewed but his father showed Katie letters he had
written from the front detailing his fears. The father admitted that the son
never requested other non combat duty or a medical release from the service
or made any other complaint. His son was complying and participating in the
Army's treatment program.
The second soldier made it clear that this was an unjust war against a
sovereign country and his problems were all cause by persons in authority
and he was a powerless dupe of the military-industrial complex. I had some
reason to question his actual situation and motives that were. of course,
caused by class prejudice as he was covered with home made 'jail' tattoos
and claiming all sorts of problems not being addressed by the VA.
The final soldier's family basically told Katie "****-off commie, our son
requested to returned to his unit - to active duty"
Now back to Katie's expert that no one has ever heard of before.... His
contention was re-exposure to traumatic conditions is contra-indicated and
endangered the other members of his squad implying, in his opinion, that
these soldiers will refuse to act in emergency situations.
The currently accepted treatment for PTSD is:
1. Initial rest
2. Psychotherapy to remember, recognize, and accept what happened.
3. Anti-Depressant therapy as needed.
4. Re-exposure to the location the trauma occurred.
Failure to re-expose someone to the location of trauma only serves to
reinforces the trauma's ill effects. Along with the other steps it follows
the old adage to 'Get back on that horse that threw you ASAP or you will
live in fear the rest of your life."
Given the choice of a combat veteran with treated PTSD and a whiny, hand
wringing, oh the humanity!, tree hugger who only joined to get money for
school soldier I would take the combat veteran ANY time as he is more likely
to shoot first and ask questions later when exposed to a situation where the
difference between MY life and death is a fraction of a second.
As a final interesting not just the night before the CBS news broadcast a
report on PTSD treatment that contradicted their expert the following night.
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:453a2db1$0$19660$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
> facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
> things and kill people without paying for it later.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
>> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
>> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
> away
>> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
>> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
>> both sides.
>>
>> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
> policy,
>> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
>> that does it best wins.......
>>
>> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
>> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and
>> > the
>> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
>> > The
>> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
> be
>> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will
>> > make
>> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without
>> > the
>> > intense media scrutiny.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Bill and Earle....
>> >>
>> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
> murder
>> > of
>> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
>> >> the
>> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
>> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
>> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
> Americans
>> >> > won't cut and run.
>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
>> > about
>> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
> day.
>> >> >> That
>> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
>> >> >> gutted
>> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> police,
>> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
> an
>> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
>> >> >> Republicans
>> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
> are
>> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least one is.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
>> > their
>> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
> spree
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
> difficult
>> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
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>
Thursday night while I was switching through the channels I paused for a
moment on Katie Couric as she was saying that after the commercial the story
would be about mentally ill soldiers being redeployed to combat.
As this was of interest to me I waited for the report. Katie claimed that
15% of soldiers had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and they were routinely
being redeployed.
Their expert claimed that returning a soldier to active duty was improper
treatment..... needless to say they neglected to offer what their expert's
qualifications were. His proscribed treatment was apparently hand holding
and collecting a government check.
They managed to find 3 soldiers diagnoses with PTSD that were reassigned to
their former units on active duty.
One soldier was never interviewed but his father showed Katie letters he had
written from the front detailing his fears. The father admitted that the son
never requested other non combat duty or a medical release from the service
or made any other complaint. His son was complying and participating in the
Army's treatment program.
The second soldier made it clear that this was an unjust war against a
sovereign country and his problems were all cause by persons in authority
and he was a powerless dupe of the military-industrial complex. I had some
reason to question his actual situation and motives that were. of course,
caused by class prejudice as he was covered with home made 'jail' tattoos
and claiming all sorts of problems not being addressed by the VA.
The final soldier's family basically told Katie "****-off commie, our son
requested to returned to his unit - to active duty"
Now back to Katie's expert that no one has ever heard of before.... His
contention was re-exposure to traumatic conditions is contra-indicated and
endangered the other members of his squad implying, in his opinion, that
these soldiers will refuse to act in emergency situations.
The currently accepted treatment for PTSD is:
1. Initial rest
2. Psychotherapy to remember, recognize, and accept what happened.
3. Anti-Depressant therapy as needed.
4. Re-exposure to the location the trauma occurred.
Failure to re-expose someone to the location of trauma only serves to
reinforces the trauma's ill effects. Along with the other steps it follows
the old adage to 'Get back on that horse that threw you ASAP or you will
live in fear the rest of your life."
Given the choice of a combat veteran with treated PTSD and a whiny, hand
wringing, oh the humanity!, tree hugger who only joined to get money for
school soldier I would take the combat veteran ANY time as he is more likely
to shoot first and ask questions later when exposed to a situation where the
difference between MY life and death is a fraction of a second.
As a final interesting not just the night before the CBS news broadcast a
report on PTSD treatment that contradicted their expert the following night.
"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:453a2db1$0$19660$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I'm just tired of thinking about all the new homeless shelters and tetox
> facilities we will have to build once it is all over. You don't break
> things and kill people without paying for it later.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:cba5a$453984c0$422afc51$13618@FUSE.NET...
>> The problem is too many of the people in charge or those criticizing the
>> running of the war managed to find ways by lying, cheating, or running
> away
>> when they were asked for their service so that they haven't witnessed,
>> haven't any concept of the incredible cruelty inflicted on both sides by
>> both sides.
>>
>> A politician will say that the military is an instrument of foreign
> policy,
>> a soldier will say his job is to break things and kill people and the one
>> that does it best wins.......
>>
>> Thing is...... sometimes it is hard to tell who is best....
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Ztb_g.38867$r61.17862@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> >I blame modern society. There are plenty of no-hopers who are having a
>> > really good time watching our boys giving it to the towel heads, and
>> > the
>> > news stations are more than happy to provide the real life docu-drama.
>> > The
>> > sooner we realise that war is a serious business which does not need to
> be
>> > broadcast for our entertainment or education, the better. This will
>> > make
>> > life easier for the soldiers who have a bad enough job to do without
>> > the
>> > intense media scrutiny.
>> >
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:c8dd5$453910e8$422afc51$12867@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Bill and Earle....
>> >>
>> >> Does the fact CNN paid the terrorists to perform this premeditated
> murder
>> > of
>> >> an American, and/or the reporter's failure to take any step to prevent
>> >> the
>> >> murder any kind of proof they are accessories to the murder?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:4538E7B4.791D4C09@***.net...
>> >> > The CNN reporter is an accessory to murder!
>> >> > I think with the election this November 7th, you'll find
> Americans
>> >> > won't cut and run.
>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bill,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't follow this argument at all. There is nothing "unethical"
>> > about
>> >> >> showing people being killed, which is apparently happening every
> day.
>> >> >> That
>> >> >> is like saying that showing auto accidents, murder victims and fire
>> >> >> gutted
>> >> >> buildings in the U.S. is a blatant attempt to get more tax money
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> police,
>> >> >> fire and EMS departments. I don't see this article as anything but
> an
>> >> >> unvarnished attempt to show the American People how stupid the
>> >> >> Republicans
>> >> >> and their supporters can be. I don't believe that all Republicans
> are
>> >> >> stupid, but this Lykins fellow does a good job of convincing me
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least one is.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's time to bring the boys and girls home, and leave the Iraqis to
>> > their
>> >> >> own devices, which is what they plainly want, to have a killing
> spree
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> will last decades. Then the soldiers can begin the long and
> difficult
>> >> >> process of fitting back into American society.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
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>
10-22-2006, 04:00 PM
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Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
billy ray wrote:
> The only other plausible explanation is that the reporter had been standing
> there filming segment on..... say the traffic situation... when a group of
> terrorists set up within inches of the camera lens and failed to notice him
> standing there physically attacking the shooter while screaming for the
> soldiers to take cover.
>
> Which scenario do you think likely from Ted's Commie Network News.
>
> FWIW: I never met Ted but his mother always treated those of us at the store
> very well.... I've never been able to understand how he could have come from
> her...
....or not...
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/ande...per-video.html
--
PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.
> The only other plausible explanation is that the reporter had been standing
> there filming segment on..... say the traffic situation... when a group of
> terrorists set up within inches of the camera lens and failed to notice him
> standing there physically attacking the shooter while screaming for the
> soldiers to take cover.
>
> Which scenario do you think likely from Ted's Commie Network News.
>
> FWIW: I never met Ted but his mother always treated those of us at the store
> very well.... I've never been able to understand how he could have come from
> her...
....or not...
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/ande...per-video.html
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10-22-2006, 04:00 PM
#39
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Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
billy ray wrote:
> The only other plausible explanation is that the reporter had been standing
> there filming segment on..... say the traffic situation... when a group of
> terrorists set up within inches of the camera lens and failed to notice him
> standing there physically attacking the shooter while screaming for the
> soldiers to take cover.
>
> Which scenario do you think likely from Ted's Commie Network News.
>
> FWIW: I never met Ted but his mother always treated those of us at the store
> very well.... I've never been able to understand how he could have come from
> her...
....or not...
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/ande...per-video.html
--
PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.
> The only other plausible explanation is that the reporter had been standing
> there filming segment on..... say the traffic situation... when a group of
> terrorists set up within inches of the camera lens and failed to notice him
> standing there physically attacking the shooter while screaming for the
> soldiers to take cover.
>
> Which scenario do you think likely from Ted's Commie Network News.
>
> FWIW: I never met Ted but his mother always treated those of us at the store
> very well.... I've never been able to understand how he could have come from
> her...
....or not...
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/ande...per-video.html
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10-22-2006, 04:00 PM
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic- CNN reporter film sniper kills
billy ray wrote:
> The only other plausible explanation is that the reporter had been standing
> there filming segment on..... say the traffic situation... when a group of
> terrorists set up within inches of the camera lens and failed to notice him
> standing there physically attacking the shooter while screaming for the
> soldiers to take cover.
>
> Which scenario do you think likely from Ted's Commie Network News.
>
> FWIW: I never met Ted but his mother always treated those of us at the store
> very well.... I've never been able to understand how he could have come from
> her...
....or not...
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/ande...per-video.html
--
PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.
> The only other plausible explanation is that the reporter had been standing
> there filming segment on..... say the traffic situation... when a group of
> terrorists set up within inches of the camera lens and failed to notice him
> standing there physically attacking the shooter while screaming for the
> soldiers to take cover.
>
> Which scenario do you think likely from Ted's Commie Network News.
>
> FWIW: I never met Ted but his mother always treated those of us at the store
> very well.... I've never been able to understand how he could have come from
> her...
....or not...
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/ande...per-video.html
--
PLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY.