Yes, all my friends have gotten out of it. And yes, they cheat, but
as the drivers use up a life time of assets they'll be gone, too.
My kids are grownup with families of their own:
http://members.aol.com/Larr------/index.html and:
http://members.aol.com/DavGibbons/index.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> They pass a law, what are they going to do? Comply or quit. Sometimes
> you have to make people do stuff they don't want to. Don't you have any
> kids, to know that by now?

 

Yes, all my friends have gotten out of it. And yes, they cheat, but
as the drivers use up a life time of assets they'll be gone, too.
My kids are grownup with families of their own:
http://members.aol.com/Larr------/index.html and:
http://members.aol.com/DavGibbons/index.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> They pass a law, what are they going to do? Comply or quit. Sometimes
> you have to make people do stuff they don't want to. Don't you have any
> kids, to know that by now?

 

That's not where his head is stuck, Bill. ;^)

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43E291EB.A71C3DD@***.net...
> "Canada did it" <ROTFLMAO> Especially now with the higher fuel and
> insurance costs. You've got your head stuck in the sand!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > I guarantee both company drivers and OOs leased out to JB, Werner, and
> > the like are running either legal or pretty close. The two log book
> > characters need to be run off the roads. Canada did it and we can too,
> > and the sooner the better. Hiring DOT people that aren't total idiots
> > would be a start. Take-the-truck laws for repeat hard core violators
> > along with a CDL revocation designed to make them get another job would
> > help.
> >
> > Everyone runs into an occasional over hours situation but willful hard
> > core cheats should be put off the road. Anyone who doesn't agree is
> > saying running over and killing grandma is OK, because that's what
> > happens.

 

That's not where his head is stuck, Bill. ;^)

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43E291EB.A71C3DD@***.net...
> "Canada did it" <ROTFLMAO> Especially now with the higher fuel and
> insurance costs. You've got your head stuck in the sand!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > I guarantee both company drivers and OOs leased out to JB, Werner, and
> > the like are running either legal or pretty close. The two log book
> > characters need to be run off the roads. Canada did it and we can too,
> > and the sooner the better. Hiring DOT people that aren't total idiots
> > would be a start. Take-the-truck laws for repeat hard core violators
> > along with a CDL revocation designed to make them get another job would
> > help.
> >
> > Everyone runs into an occasional over hours situation but willful hard
> > core cheats should be put off the road. Anyone who doesn't agree is
> > saying running over and killing grandma is OK, because that's what
> > happens.

 

That's not where his head is stuck, Bill. ;^)

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43E291EB.A71C3DD@***.net...
> "Canada did it" <ROTFLMAO> Especially now with the higher fuel and
> insurance costs. You've got your head stuck in the sand!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > I guarantee both company drivers and OOs leased out to JB, Werner, and
> > the like are running either legal or pretty close. The two log book
> > characters need to be run off the roads. Canada did it and we can too,
> > and the sooner the better. Hiring DOT people that aren't total idiots
> > would be a start. Take-the-truck laws for repeat hard core violators
> > along with a CDL revocation designed to make them get another job would
> > help.
> >
> > Everyone runs into an occasional over hours situation but willful hard
> > core cheats should be put off the road. Anyone who doesn't agree is
> > saying running over and killing grandma is OK, because that's what
> > happens.

 

Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
>
>>The driver and the highway patrol both have a job to do. The
>>independent owner/operator must drive faster than 55 mph, and cheat the
>>hours in his log books to make ends meet.
>
>
>
> I guarantee both company drivers and OOs leased out to JB, Werner, and
> the like are running either legal or pretty close. The two log book
> characters need to be run off the roads. Canada did it and we can too,
> and the sooner the better. Hiring DOT people that aren't total idiots
> would be a start. Take-the-truck laws for repeat hard core violators
> along with a CDL revocation designed to make them get another job would
> help.

Addressing the issue that out on the open road, there really isn't
anything unsafe about allowing the big rigs to cruise at traffic speed.
I see them do it all the time, and safely in light traffic, for hundreds
of miles at a stretch.

Around town, yes, slow them down. However, I honestly think truckers
should be allowed at least a daily bag limit of 3 Bimmer owners who
think the Ultimate ******** Machine repeals the laws of physics when the
cut across five lanes to turn at the last second and slam on their
brakes right in front of a semi.

>
> Everyone runs into an occasional over hours situation but willful hard
> core cheats should be put off the road. Anyone who doesn't agree is
> saying running over and killing grandma is OK, because that's what
> happens.
>

Not that long ago, I used to drive an average of 500 miles or more per
day on everything from big interstates to 2 lane highways to country
farm to market roads. The number of times I saw the truck drivers do
something stupid compared to the number of times I saw them darn near
kill themselves avoiding some truly stupid motorist was highly
impressive. Still today I make at least 3-4 trips of a couple thousand
miles per year across the western states. Given a choice between
driving in a bunch of trucks and driving near the typical minivan
driver, I'll take the trucks every time. Give them space and courtesy
an they really do tend not to run over you. Unlike the minivan driver
who drives like just like a stray dog, coming up to sniff your rear end
at least once every mile or two.

 

Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
>
>>The driver and the highway patrol both have a job to do. The
>>independent owner/operator must drive faster than 55 mph, and cheat the
>>hours in his log books to make ends meet.
>
>
>
> I guarantee both company drivers and OOs leased out to JB, Werner, and
> the like are running either legal or pretty close. The two log book
> characters need to be run off the roads. Canada did it and we can too,
> and the sooner the better. Hiring DOT people that aren't total idiots
> would be a start. Take-the-truck laws for repeat hard core violators
> along with a CDL revocation designed to make them get another job would
> help.

Addressing the issue that out on the open road, there really isn't
anything unsafe about allowing the big rigs to cruise at traffic speed.
I see them do it all the time, and safely in light traffic, for hundreds
of miles at a stretch.

Around town, yes, slow them down. However, I honestly think truckers
should be allowed at least a daily bag limit of 3 Bimmer owners who
think the Ultimate ******** Machine repeals the laws of physics when the
cut across five lanes to turn at the last second and slam on their
brakes right in front of a semi.

>
> Everyone runs into an occasional over hours situation but willful hard
> core cheats should be put off the road. Anyone who doesn't agree is
> saying running over and killing grandma is OK, because that's what
> happens.
>

Not that long ago, I used to drive an average of 500 miles or more per
day on everything from big interstates to 2 lane highways to country
farm to market roads. The number of times I saw the truck drivers do
something stupid compared to the number of times I saw them darn near
kill themselves avoiding some truly stupid motorist was highly
impressive. Still today I make at least 3-4 trips of a couple thousand
miles per year across the western states. Given a choice between
driving in a bunch of trucks and driving near the typical minivan
driver, I'll take the trucks every time. Give them space and courtesy
an they really do tend not to run over you. Unlike the minivan driver
who drives like just like a stray dog, coming up to sniff your rear end
at least once every mile or two.

 

Bret Ludwig proclaimed:
> L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
>
>>The driver and the highway patrol both have a job to do. The
>>independent owner/operator must drive faster than 55 mph, and cheat the
>>hours in his log books to make ends meet.
>
>
>
> I guarantee both company drivers and OOs leased out to JB, Werner, and
> the like are running either legal or pretty close. The two log book
> characters need to be run off the roads. Canada did it and we can too,
> and the sooner the better. Hiring DOT people that aren't total idiots
> would be a start. Take-the-truck laws for repeat hard core violators
> along with a CDL revocation designed to make them get another job would
> help.

Addressing the issue that out on the open road, there really isn't
anything unsafe about allowing the big rigs to cruise at traffic speed.
I see them do it all the time, and safely in light traffic, for hundreds
of miles at a stretch.

Around town, yes, slow them down. However, I honestly think truckers
should be allowed at least a daily bag limit of 3 Bimmer owners who
think the Ultimate ******** Machine repeals the laws of physics when the
cut across five lanes to turn at the last second and slam on their
brakes right in front of a semi.

>
> Everyone runs into an occasional over hours situation but willful hard
> core cheats should be put off the road. Anyone who doesn't agree is
> saying running over and killing grandma is OK, because that's what
> happens.
>

Not that long ago, I used to drive an average of 500 miles or more per
day on everything from big interstates to 2 lane highways to country
farm to market roads. The number of times I saw the truck drivers do
something stupid compared to the number of times I saw them darn near
kill themselves avoiding some truly stupid motorist was highly
impressive. Still today I make at least 3-4 trips of a couple thousand
miles per year across the western states. Given a choice between
driving in a bunch of trucks and driving near the typical minivan
driver, I'll take the trucks every time. Give them space and courtesy
an they really do tend not to run over you. Unlike the minivan driver
who drives like just like a stray dog, coming up to sniff your rear end
at least once every mile or two.