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Bret Ludwig 01-26-2006 09:19 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
> are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
> exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
> back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
>


If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
you well know.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-26-2006 09:40 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 
So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
ago???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
> has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
> 2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
> RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
> for years before that.
>
> Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
> I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
> YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
> OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.
>
> Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-26-2006 09:40 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 
So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
ago???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
> has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
> 2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
> RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
> for years before that.
>
> Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
> I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
> YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
> OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.
>
> Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-26-2006 09:40 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 
So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
ago???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
> has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
> 2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
> RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
> for years before that.
>
> Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
> I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
> YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
> OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.
>
> Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-26-2006 09:44 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 
And why would Kalifornia ban commercial trucks??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
> you well know.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-26-2006 09:44 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 
And why would Kalifornia ban commercial trucks??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
> you well know.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-26-2006 09:44 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 
And why would Kalifornia ban commercial trucks??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
> you well know.


Bret Ludwig 01-26-2006 09:56 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
> ago???????


Emissions testing started forty years ago. It was a visual inspection
then. By 1970 the tailpipe sniffers were in use. The first company
busted in California for emissions was a bus operator who unhooked the
rack delay dashpots from their 8V71 Detroits.


Bret Ludwig 01-26-2006 09:56 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
> ago???????


Emissions testing started forty years ago. It was a visual inspection
then. By 1970 the tailpipe sniffers were in use. The first company
busted in California for emissions was a bus operator who unhooked the
rack delay dashpots from their 8V71 Detroits.


Bret Ludwig 01-26-2006 09:56 PM

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
> ago???????


Emissions testing started forty years ago. It was a visual inspection
then. By 1970 the tailpipe sniffers were in use. The first company
busted in California for emissions was a bus operator who unhooked the
rack delay dashpots from their 8V71 Detroits.



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