Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
clip.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D6DC5F.2811B4B6@cox.net...
> Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
> are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
> exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
> back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>>
>> http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
>> --
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
clip.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D6DC5F.2811B4B6@cox.net...
> Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
> are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
> exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
> back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>>
>> http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
>> --
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
clip.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D6DC5F.2811B4B6@cox.net...
> Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
> are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
> exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
> back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>>
>> http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
>> --
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

New term: Dieselbuse.

You know, no matter what something costs, there are always people ready
to tear it up.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
> clip.
>>twaldron wrote:
>>
>>>http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
>>>--

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

New term: Dieselbuse.

You know, no matter what something costs, there are always people ready
to tear it up.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
> clip.
>>twaldron wrote:
>>
>>>http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
>>>--

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

New term: Dieselbuse.

You know, no matter what something costs, there are always people ready
to tear it up.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
> clip.
>>twaldron wrote:
>>
>>>http://prodieselsledpulling.com.istemp.com/Movie.wmv
>>>--

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Have you changed the filters yet?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
> clip.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Have you changed the filters yet?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
> clip.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Have you changed the filters yet?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in twaldron's
> clip.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D808A7.97D5D541@cox.net...
> Have you changed the filters yet?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in
>> twaldron's
>> clip.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D808A7.97D5D541@cox.net...
> Have you changed the filters yet?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in
>> twaldron's
>> clip.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D808A7.97D5D541@cox.net...
> Have you changed the filters yet?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Glad my new Excursion doesn't smoke like a chimney like those in
>> twaldron's
>> clip.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Looks like the additional cost will be about seven hundred dollars
every ten thousand miles:
http://bioage.typepad.com/.shared/im...c_exhpopup.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Looks like the additional cost will be about seven hundred dollars
every ten thousand miles:
http://bioage.typepad.com/.shared/im...c_exhpopup.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Looks like the additional cost will be about seven hundred dollars
every ten thousand miles:
http://bioage.typepad.com/.shared/im...c_exhpopup.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Don't know from whose ass you pulled those numbers, but it looks like I'll
get three new exhaust systems under warranty! Luckily MI has no emissions
inspections...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D81E4B.AAEEB68B@cox.net...
> Looks like the additional cost will be about seven hundred dollars
> every ten thousand miles:
> http://bioage.typepad.com/.shared/im...c_exhpopup.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Don't know from whose ass you pulled those numbers, but it looks like I'll
get three new exhaust systems under warranty! Luckily MI has no emissions
inspections...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D81E4B.AAEEB68B@cox.net...
> Looks like the additional cost will be about seven hundred dollars
> every ten thousand miles:
> http://bioage.typepad.com/.shared/im...c_exhpopup.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

Don't know from whose ass you pulled those numbers, but it looks like I'll
get three new exhaust systems under warranty! Luckily MI has no emissions
inspections...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43D81E4B.AAEEB68B@cox.net...
> Looks like the additional cost will be about seven hundred dollars
> every ten thousand miles:
> http://bioage.typepad.com/.shared/im...c_exhpopup.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Shouldn't have to with less than 2,000 miles on the clock.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

I could have said that about Kalifornia a couple of years ago.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Don't know from whose ass you pulled those numbers, but it looks like I'll
> get three new exhaust systems under warranty! Luckily MI has no emissions
> inspections...

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

I could have said that about Kalifornia a couple of years ago.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Don't know from whose ass you pulled those numbers, but it looks like I'll
> get three new exhaust systems under warranty! Luckily MI has no emissions
> inspections...

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

I could have said that about Kalifornia a couple of years ago.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Don't know from whose ass you pulled those numbers, but it looks like I'll
> get three new exhaust systems under warranty! Luckily MI has no emissions
> inspections...

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I could have said that about Kalifornia a couple of years ago.

You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
for years before that.

Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.

Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I could have said that about Kalifornia a couple of years ago.

You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
for years before that.

Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.

Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I could have said that about Kalifornia a couple of years ago.

You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
for years before that.

Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.

Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
> are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
> exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
> back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
>

If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
you well know.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
> are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
> exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
> back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
>

If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
you well know.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Diesels have their place, but never in a just a passenger car, they
> are dirty and there's no way of ever cleaning them up, not even with an
> exhaust filters, as Mercedes use. Fortunately they will never be allowed
> back in Kalifornia: http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html
>

If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
you well know.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
ago???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
> has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
> 2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
> RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
> for years before that.
>
> Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
> I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
> YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
> OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.
>
> Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
ago???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
> has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
> 2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
> RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
> for years before that.
>
> Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
> I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
> YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
> OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.
>
> Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
ago???????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> You are in need of your annual Alzheimers check, because California
> has had emissions inspections for nearly forty years. I can remember a
> 2 hour delay in Orange County when my dad turned into a line with a
> RENTED CAR by mistake. That was 1972 and they had been doing that ----
> for years before that.
>
> Diesels do belong in passenger cars. If the truckers don't like it all
> I can say to them is the world doesn't revolve around them.
> YellowRoadway, JB Hunt and the van lines won't be going broke. A few
> OOs might and a lot of them ought not to be out there anyway.
>
> Real off road vehicles do not have spark plugs. PERIOD.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

And why would Kalifornia ban commercial trucks??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
> you well know.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

And why would Kalifornia ban commercial trucks??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
> you well know.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

And why would Kalifornia ban commercial trucks??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> If that were true they should be banned from Class 8 trucks FIRST, as
> you well know.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
> ago???????

Emissions testing started forty years ago. It was a visual inspection
then. By 1970 the tailpipe sniffers were in use. The first company
busted in California for emissions was a bus operator who unhooked the
rack delay dashpots from their 8V71 Detroits.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
> ago???????

Emissions testing started forty years ago. It was a visual inspection
then. By 1970 the tailpipe sniffers were in use. The first company
busted in California for emissions was a bus operator who unhooked the
rack delay dashpots from their 8V71 Detroits.

Re: Ode to Bill and his love for diesels...
 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> So in your senile mind diesel emission tests started forty years
> ago???????

Emissions testing started forty years ago. It was a visual inspection
then. By 1970 the tailpipe sniffers were in use. The first company
busted in California for emissions was a bus operator who unhooked the
rack delay dashpots from their 8V71 Detroits.