Odd starting situation..
06-11-2007, 09:49 PM
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Odd starting situation..
I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
you all have to say.
When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.) Another
symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed my battery
tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my battery tray.
My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the frame
and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not accustomed
to life in the Northeast.
Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
you all have to say.
When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.) Another
symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed my battery
tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my battery tray.
My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the frame
and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not accustomed
to life in the Northeast.
Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
06-11-2007, 09:55 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Oh and the battery is brand new and tested fine.
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
> you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
> give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
> usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
> This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
> but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.)
> Another symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed
> my battery tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my
> battery tray.
> My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the
> frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not
> accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits
> F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
>
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:HYmbi.3658$c45.1294@trndny06...
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
> you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
> give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
> usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
> This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
> but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.)
> Another symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed
> my battery tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my
> battery tray.
> My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the
> frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not
> accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits
> F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
>
06-11-2007, 09:55 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Oh and the battery is brand new and tested fine.
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:HYmbi.3658$c45.1294@trndny06...
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
> you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
> give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
> usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
> This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
> but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.)
> Another symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed
> my battery tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my
> battery tray.
> My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the
> frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not
> accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits
> F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
>
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:HYmbi.3658$c45.1294@trndny06...
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
> you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
> give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
> usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
> This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
> but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.)
> Another symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed
> my battery tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my
> battery tray.
> My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the
> frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not
> accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits
> F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
>
06-11-2007, 09:55 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Oh and the battery is brand new and tested fine.
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:HYmbi.3658$c45.1294@trndny06...
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
> you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
> give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
> usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
> This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
> but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.)
> Another symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed
> my battery tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my
> battery tray.
> My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the
> frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not
> accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits
> F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
>
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:HYmbi.3658$c45.1294@trndny06...
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
> you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
> give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
> usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
> This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
> but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.)
> Another symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed
> my battery tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my
> battery tray.
> My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the
> frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not
> accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits
> F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
>
06-11-2007, 09:55 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Oh and the battery is brand new and tested fine.
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:HYmbi.3658$c45.1294@trndny06...
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
> you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
> give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
> usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
> This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
> but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.)
> Another symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed
> my battery tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my
> battery tray.
> My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the
> frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not
> accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits
> F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
>
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"Rich" <harrisfam1988@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:HYmbi.3658$c45.1294@trndny06...
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear what
> you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I have to
> give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but the second try
> usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it cranks real slow.
> This has happened for years and I want to finally figure it out. (I know,
> but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to complain about my wife.)
> Another symptom related or not is that in the past 6 months I've noticed
> my battery tray has been growing that white powder in the base of my
> battery tray.
> My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between the
> frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27 and not
> accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> --
> Rich Harris
> 1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits
> F/R, 33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
> shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
>
06-11-2007, 10:00 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Rich wrote:
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
> what you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between
> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
--
DougW
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
> what you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between
> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
--
DougW
06-11-2007, 10:00 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Rich wrote:
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
> what you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between
> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
--
DougW
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
> what you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between
> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
--
DougW
06-11-2007, 10:00 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Rich wrote:
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
> what you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between
> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
--
DougW
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
> what you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between
> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
--
DougW
06-11-2007, 10:00 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Rich wrote:
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
> what you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between
> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
--
DougW
> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
> what you all have to say.
> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground that needs attention, probably between
> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
--
DougW
06-11-2007, 10:20 PM
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Re: Odd starting situation..
Doug,
Both cables from the battery are newish and so is the cable from the
solenoid to the starter....This is what leads me to think I have a ground
issue.
Also, I've been reading about my corrosion on the battery and everything
leads me to believe I have a charging issue with my alternator. It runs
close to 16V at idle on my voltage gauge (autometer) when all electrical
circuits are off. I haven't checked it with a real voltmeter yet, but I
suspect I might need an alternator too.That voltage has been creeping up
over the last 6 months.
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:y8nbi.117749$NU1.43452@newsfe13.lga...
> Rich wrote:
>> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
>> what you all have to say.
>> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
>> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
>> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
>> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
>> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
>> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
>> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
>> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground
>> that needs attention, probably between
>> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
>> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
>> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
> replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
>
> --
> DougW
>
Both cables from the battery are newish and so is the cable from the
solenoid to the starter....This is what leads me to think I have a ground
issue.
Also, I've been reading about my corrosion on the battery and everything
leads me to believe I have a charging issue with my alternator. It runs
close to 16V at idle on my voltage gauge (autometer) when all electrical
circuits are off. I haven't checked it with a real voltmeter yet, but I
suspect I might need an alternator too.That voltage has been creeping up
over the last 6 months.
--
Rich Harris
1986 CJ7 4.0l head w/MOPAR MPFI, Tom Woods driveshaft, 4:10 w/Detroits F/R,
33" BFG MT's, Rubicon Express springs, ProComp MX6 shocks, revolver
shackles, and a couple more fun tricks.
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:y8nbi.117749$NU1.43452@newsfe13.lga...
> Rich wrote:
>> I've got an interesting one. I think I know the answer but lets hear
>> what you all have to say.
>> When I start my CJ, normally it cranks right up. Rarely though, I
>> have to give it another try. First crank is normal speed always but
>> the second try usually sounds like the battery is about to die and it
>> cranks real slow. This has happened for years and I want to finally
>> figure it out. (I know, but hey if my Jeep was perfect, I'd have to
>> complain about my wife.) Another symptom related or not is that in
>> the past 6 months I've noticed my battery tray has been growing that
>> white powder in the base of my battery tray. My guess is I have a ground
>> that needs attention, probably between
>> the frame and the engine and the body and the frame too. She is 27
>> and not accustomed to life in the Northeast.
>> Anyone venture a guess or know something I don't?
>
> Bad connection on the battery or the starter solinoid needs to be
> replaced. Bad battery cables and corroded connections can also do this.
>
> --
> DougW
>
