Jeff Strickland

"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:Dwhbh.4667$ql2.3428@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>A plain OBDII reader should be fine for all your vehicles with the possible
>exception of the 2006 Nissan.
>
> I did a google search, was not coming up with anything definitive. I was
> looking at buying a scanner last summer (working a problem with another
> vehicle). My research said that OBD I was a '80's to 1995 vintage system,
> plain OBD II was mid 90's (depends on what vehicle), the CAN system
> (Controller Area Network) protocol was introduced on SOME vehicles in
> 2004, all vehicles by 2008(?)

OBD II was required on all passenger cars and light trucks offered for sale
in the USA since 1996. There are a small number of cars and trucks that had
OBD II capability from 1995, but that is more of a production issue with the
automaker than compliance to the law. The law says it is not required until
'96 production.

I tend to stay pretty close to this sort of stuff, and I am not aware of a
move away from OBD II. Certainly, there are conventions that are better, and
CAN has been around for a very long time. I'm pretty sure that CAN serves a
different purpose than OBD II, and finding a new CAN is certainly possible
without any change to the diagnostic interface of OBD II.

Outatime

RoyJ wrote:

> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
> anything from 2004 (?) and up.

The manual in my 9145 states it is CAN upgradable ($30 plug-in board),
and it works fine as-is with any generic OBD-compatible PCM, including
my '05 TJL. I've also used it with an '06 PT Cruiser.

Outatime

RoyJ wrote:

> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
> anything from 2004 (?) and up.

The manual in my 9145 states it is CAN upgradable ($30 plug-in board),
and it works fine as-is with any generic OBD-compatible PCM, including
my '05 TJL. I've also used it with an '06 PT Cruiser.

Outatime

RoyJ wrote:

> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
> anything from 2004 (?) and up.

The manual in my 9145 states it is CAN upgradable ($30 plug-in board),
and it works fine as-is with any generic OBD-compatible PCM, including
my '05 TJL. I've also used it with an '06 PT Cruiser.

twaldron

Outatime wrote:
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
>> anything from 2004 (?) and up.
>
>
> The manual in my 9145 states it is CAN upgradable ($30 plug-in board),
> and it works fine as-is with any generic OBD-compatible PCM, including
> my '05 TJL. I've also used it with an '06 PT Cruiser.
>

You must have one of the earlier models then.

tw

--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

twaldron

Outatime wrote:
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
>> anything from 2004 (?) and up.
>
>
> The manual in my 9145 states it is CAN upgradable ($30 plug-in board),
> and it works fine as-is with any generic OBD-compatible PCM, including
> my '05 TJL. I've also used it with an '06 PT Cruiser.
>

You must have one of the earlier models then.

tw

--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

twaldron

Outatime wrote:
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
>> anything from 2004 (?) and up.
>
>
> The manual in my 9145 states it is CAN upgradable ($30 plug-in board),
> and it works fine as-is with any generic OBD-compatible PCM, including
> my '05 TJL. I've also used it with an '06 PT Cruiser.
>

You must have one of the earlier models then.

tw

--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Tomes

Did you buy this direct from Actron or from someone else (and whom)?
Thanks,
Tomes

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Coibh.41806$a_2.27578@trnddc01...
> Ok. I called Actron and they said all CP9145s from 2005 and up are CAN
> compatible and have newer software installed. Since I'm ordering new there
> is little to no chance that I'd receive and older model unless it gets
> pulled from some really old stock. Also, their site says this for the
> 9145:
>
> - Tool is fully upgradeable, accommodating future vehicles (including
> C.A.N.)
>
> Which is nice! :) So, I should be good to go on the '06 Nissan too. It
> was $188 shipped, so that's not too bad. I can pay that off with a couple
> of Check Engine lights.
>
> Those IEQUUS products look really nice as well, and are about the same
> price for the top end ones. ($199)
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> tw
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> A plain OBDII reader should be fine for all your vehicles with the
>> possible exception of the 2006 Nissan.
>>
>> I did a google search, was not coming up with anything definitive. I was
>> looking at buying a scanner last summer (working a problem with another
>> vehicle). My research said that OBD I was a '80's to 1995 vintage system,
>> plain OBD II was mid 90's (depends on what vehicle), the CAN system
>> (Controller Area Network) protocol was introduced on SOME vehicles in
>> 2004, all vehicles by 2008(?) The plug is the same for CAN vehicles, the
>> software is different. The plain OBD II would work for my current
>> vehicles, just seemed silly to buy something that would not work for any
>> new vehicles. Price was about double to get the CAN capability, didn't
>> buy anything.
>>
>> A plain OBDII reader should be fine for all your vehicles with the
>> possible exception of the 2006 Nissan.
>>
>> I was looking at the IEQUUS products, all CAN capable, didn't buy one.
>> http://www.iequus.com/products.php?category_id=1_10_7
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> Not they way I was understanding the 9145 Scanner...are you talking
>>> about the 9175 Reader...not that it matters? I need this to read 1997
>>> Ford, 2001 Jeep, 2003 Jeep, and 2006 Nissan. I believe they are all
>>> OBC-II past 1996. Don't know why 2004-2006 would be any different.
>>> Please explain.
>>>
>>> tw
>>>
>>> RoyJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
>>>> anything from 2004 (?) and up.
>>>> http://www.actron.com/publish/2006/0...atsnew_1_6.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Outatime wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, I just went with a Actron CP9145....no PC stuff but portable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Tomes

Did you buy this direct from Actron or from someone else (and whom)?
Thanks,
Tomes

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Coibh.41806$a_2.27578@trnddc01...
> Ok. I called Actron and they said all CP9145s from 2005 and up are CAN
> compatible and have newer software installed. Since I'm ordering new there
> is little to no chance that I'd receive and older model unless it gets
> pulled from some really old stock. Also, their site says this for the
> 9145:
>
> - Tool is fully upgradeable, accommodating future vehicles (including
> C.A.N.)
>
> Which is nice! :) So, I should be good to go on the '06 Nissan too. It
> was $188 shipped, so that's not too bad. I can pay that off with a couple
> of Check Engine lights.
>
> Those IEQUUS products look really nice as well, and are about the same
> price for the top end ones. ($199)
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> tw
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> A plain OBDII reader should be fine for all your vehicles with the
>> possible exception of the 2006 Nissan.
>>
>> I did a google search, was not coming up with anything definitive. I was
>> looking at buying a scanner last summer (working a problem with another
>> vehicle). My research said that OBD I was a '80's to 1995 vintage system,
>> plain OBD II was mid 90's (depends on what vehicle), the CAN system
>> (Controller Area Network) protocol was introduced on SOME vehicles in
>> 2004, all vehicles by 2008(?) The plug is the same for CAN vehicles, the
>> software is different. The plain OBD II would work for my current
>> vehicles, just seemed silly to buy something that would not work for any
>> new vehicles. Price was about double to get the CAN capability, didn't
>> buy anything.
>>
>> A plain OBDII reader should be fine for all your vehicles with the
>> possible exception of the 2006 Nissan.
>>
>> I was looking at the IEQUUS products, all CAN capable, didn't buy one.
>> http://www.iequus.com/products.php?category_id=1_10_7
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> Not they way I was understanding the 9145 Scanner...are you talking
>>> about the 9175 Reader...not that it matters? I need this to read 1997
>>> Ford, 2001 Jeep, 2003 Jeep, and 2006 Nissan. I believe they are all
>>> OBC-II past 1996. Don't know why 2004-2006 would be any different.
>>> Please explain.
>>>
>>> tw
>>>
>>> RoyJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
>>>> anything from 2004 (?) and up.
>>>> http://www.actron.com/publish/2006/0...atsnew_1_6.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Outatime wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, I just went with a Actron CP9145....no PC stuff but portable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________

Tomes

Did you buy this direct from Actron or from someone else (and whom)?
Thanks,
Tomes

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Coibh.41806$a_2.27578@trnddc01...
> Ok. I called Actron and they said all CP9145s from 2005 and up are CAN
> compatible and have newer software installed. Since I'm ordering new there
> is little to no chance that I'd receive and older model unless it gets
> pulled from some really old stock. Also, their site says this for the
> 9145:
>
> - Tool is fully upgradeable, accommodating future vehicles (including
> C.A.N.)
>
> Which is nice! :) So, I should be good to go on the '06 Nissan too. It
> was $188 shipped, so that's not too bad. I can pay that off with a couple
> of Check Engine lights.
>
> Those IEQUUS products look really nice as well, and are about the same
> price for the top end ones. ($199)
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> tw
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> A plain OBDII reader should be fine for all your vehicles with the
>> possible exception of the 2006 Nissan.
>>
>> I did a google search, was not coming up with anything definitive. I was
>> looking at buying a scanner last summer (working a problem with another
>> vehicle). My research said that OBD I was a '80's to 1995 vintage system,
>> plain OBD II was mid 90's (depends on what vehicle), the CAN system
>> (Controller Area Network) protocol was introduced on SOME vehicles in
>> 2004, all vehicles by 2008(?) The plug is the same for CAN vehicles, the
>> software is different. The plain OBD II would work for my current
>> vehicles, just seemed silly to buy something that would not work for any
>> new vehicles. Price was about double to get the CAN capability, didn't
>> buy anything.
>>
>> A plain OBDII reader should be fine for all your vehicles with the
>> possible exception of the 2006 Nissan.
>>
>> I was looking at the IEQUUS products, all CAN capable, didn't buy one.
>> http://www.iequus.com/products.php?category_id=1_10_7
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> Not they way I was understanding the 9145 Scanner...are you talking
>>> about the 9175 Reader...not that it matters? I need this to read 1997
>>> Ford, 2001 Jeep, 2003 Jeep, and 2006 Nissan. I believe they are all
>>> OBC-II past 1996. Don't know why 2004-2006 would be any different.
>>> Please explain.
>>>
>>> tw
>>>
>>> RoyJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does not say it is upgradable to the CAN protocols. Won't work on
>>>> anything from 2004 (?) and up.
>>>> http://www.actron.com/publish/2006/0...atsnew_1_6.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Outatime wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, I just went with a Actron CP9145....no PC stuff but portable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________