Lon Stowell

Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:

> Hey Nathan
> Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.

Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
Wyoming, etc.

The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
practice for antelope hunting.

Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.


> Check out these vid's
> http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>


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My governor can kick your governor's ***

Lon Stowell

Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:

> Hey Nathan
> Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.

Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
Wyoming, etc.

The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
practice for antelope hunting.

Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.


> Check out these vid's
> http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>


--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

Lon Stowell

Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:

> Hey Nathan
> Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.

Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
Wyoming, etc.

The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
practice for antelope hunting.

Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.


> Check out these vid's
> http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>


--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

Lon Stowell

Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
to see.

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My governor can kick your governor's ***

Lon Stowell

Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
to see.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

Lon Stowell

Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
to see.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ***

Perry Gagnon

I made some good money as a kid hunting "ground hogs" (we call them wood
chucks) for the local farmers. Still shoot one now and then if
someone's crops are being eaten and they ask my help (I don't charge
anymore). Never used the kind of loads they use though. A simple .22
long rifle with a scope behind the ear was the most humane way.
and it didn't alert others the way an exploding carcass does so you can
be more effective in reducing the population in a days work.

I think these folks get off on the carnage more than doing any farmer a
favor. One link on the FAQ tells it all,
http://www.seekersoftheredmist.com The "Red Mist" is their objective here.
It's hardly a sport. No skill needed once you have a properly sighted in
gun sand bagged in the prone position with targets that stand up and
pose for you. I suggest they shoot watermelons. It's more impressive
carnage for their high speed cameras and heavy loads and just as
challenging. But then again, it wouldn't spawn hate mail so where's the
fun in that?

My .02

Perry

FrankW wrote:
> I've been hunting for many years also
> and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
> hunters who would get a kick out of it.
>
> One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".
>
> As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
> to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
> eliminated from their fields.
>
> Nathan Collier wrote:
>
>> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>>
>>
>>
>> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they
>> detrimental to
>> wilderness areas or something?
>>
>

Perry Gagnon

I made some good money as a kid hunting "ground hogs" (we call them wood
chucks) for the local farmers. Still shoot one now and then if
someone's crops are being eaten and they ask my help (I don't charge
anymore). Never used the kind of loads they use though. A simple .22
long rifle with a scope behind the ear was the most humane way.
and it didn't alert others the way an exploding carcass does so you can
be more effective in reducing the population in a days work.

I think these folks get off on the carnage more than doing any farmer a
favor. One link on the FAQ tells it all,
http://www.seekersoftheredmist.com The "Red Mist" is their objective here.
It's hardly a sport. No skill needed once you have a properly sighted in
gun sand bagged in the prone position with targets that stand up and
pose for you. I suggest they shoot watermelons. It's more impressive
carnage for their high speed cameras and heavy loads and just as
challenging. But then again, it wouldn't spawn hate mail so where's the
fun in that?

My .02

Perry

FrankW wrote:
> I've been hunting for many years also
> and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
> hunters who would get a kick out of it.
>
> One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".
>
> As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
> to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
> eliminated from their fields.
>
> Nathan Collier wrote:
>
>> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>>
>>
>>
>> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they
>> detrimental to
>> wilderness areas or something?
>>
>

Perry Gagnon

I made some good money as a kid hunting "ground hogs" (we call them wood
chucks) for the local farmers. Still shoot one now and then if
someone's crops are being eaten and they ask my help (I don't charge
anymore). Never used the kind of loads they use though. A simple .22
long rifle with a scope behind the ear was the most humane way.
and it didn't alert others the way an exploding carcass does so you can
be more effective in reducing the population in a days work.

I think these folks get off on the carnage more than doing any farmer a
favor. One link on the FAQ tells it all,
http://www.seekersoftheredmist.com The "Red Mist" is their objective here.
It's hardly a sport. No skill needed once you have a properly sighted in
gun sand bagged in the prone position with targets that stand up and
pose for you. I suggest they shoot watermelons. It's more impressive
carnage for their high speed cameras and heavy loads and just as
challenging. But then again, it wouldn't spawn hate mail so where's the
fun in that?

My .02

Perry

FrankW wrote:
> I've been hunting for many years also
> and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
> hunters who would get a kick out of it.
>
> One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".
>
> As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
> to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
> eliminated from their fields.
>
> Nathan Collier wrote:
>
>> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>>
>>
>>
>> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they
>> detrimental to
>> wilderness areas or something?
>>
>

Will Honea

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:17:28 UTC "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?

You've never ridden a horse or run cattle on an open range or you
wouldn't ask what the big deal is. That part aside, they carry fleas
which transmit Bubonic plague. Farmers and ranchers pay good money to
exterminators, exterminators in built up areas make good money from
the Health Dept. for their work.

Picture this one: a truck with a big vacuum cleaner drives up, drops
the hose into a hole and starts sucking out rodents. That's the
current "humane" way to clean out the little pests.

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Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>