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FrankW 10-15-2003 11:07 AM

O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Hey Nathan
Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.
Check out these vid's
http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.


Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 12:17 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.


ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
wilderness areas or something?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com






Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 12:17 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.


ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
wilderness areas or something?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com






Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 12:17 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.


ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
wilderness areas or something?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com






TJim 10-15-2003 12:30 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Yeah, my first reaction was, "EEEWWWWWW!!!".
These guys weren't really hunting, they were "blasting"!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:sqejb.6875$kZ5.1431@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental

to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
>




TJim 10-15-2003 12:30 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Yeah, my first reaction was, "EEEWWWWWW!!!".
These guys weren't really hunting, they were "blasting"!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:sqejb.6875$kZ5.1431@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental

to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
>




TJim 10-15-2003 12:30 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Yeah, my first reaction was, "EEEWWWWWW!!!".
These guys weren't really hunting, they were "blasting"!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:sqejb.6875$kZ5.1431@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental

to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>
>




FrankW 10-15-2003 12:54 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I've been hunting for many years also
and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
hunters who would get a kick out of it.

One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".

As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
eliminated from their fields.

Nathan Collier wrote:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>
>>Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>



FrankW 10-15-2003 12:54 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I've been hunting for many years also
and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
hunters who would get a kick out of it.

One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".

As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
eliminated from their fields.

Nathan Collier wrote:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>
>>Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>



FrankW 10-15-2003 12:54 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I've been hunting for many years also
and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
hunters who would get a kick out of it.

One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".

As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
eliminated from their fields.

Nathan Collier wrote:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>
>>Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>



Lon Stowell 10-15-2003 01:54 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:

> Hey Nathan
> Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.


Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
Wyoming, etc.

The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
practice for antelope hunting.

Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.


> Check out these vid's
> http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>



--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 10-15-2003 01:54 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:

> Hey Nathan
> Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.


Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
Wyoming, etc.

The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
practice for antelope hunting.

Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.


> Check out these vid's
> http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>



--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 10-15-2003 01:54 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:

> Hey Nathan
> Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.


Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
Wyoming, etc.

The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
practice for antelope hunting.

Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.


> Check out these vid's
> http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
>



--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 10-15-2003 01:56 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>

A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
to see.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 10-15-2003 01:56 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>

A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
to see.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 10-15-2003 01:56 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>

A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
to see.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Perry Gagnon 10-15-2003 01:58 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I made some good money as a kid hunting "ground hogs" (we call them wood
chucks) for the local farmers. Still shoot one now and then if
someone's crops are being eaten and they ask my help (I don't charge
anymore). Never used the kind of loads they use though. A simple .22
long rifle with a scope behind the ear was the most humane way.
and it didn't alert others the way an exploding carcass does so you can
be more effective in reducing the population in a days work.

I think these folks get off on the carnage more than doing any farmer a
favor. One link on the FAQ tells it all,
http://www.seekersoftheredmist.com The "Red Mist" is their objective here.
It's hardly a sport. No skill needed once you have a properly sighted in
gun sand bagged in the prone position with targets that stand up and
pose for you. I suggest they shoot watermelons. It's more impressive
carnage for their high speed cameras and heavy loads and just as
challenging. But then again, it wouldn't spawn hate mail so where's the
fun in that?

My .02

Perry

FrankW wrote:
> I've been hunting for many years also
> and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
> hunters who would get a kick out of it.
>
> One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".
>
> As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
> to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
> eliminated from their fields.
>
> Nathan Collier wrote:
>
>> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>>
>>
>>
>> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they
>> detrimental to
>> wilderness areas or something?
>>

>



Perry Gagnon 10-15-2003 01:58 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I made some good money as a kid hunting "ground hogs" (we call them wood
chucks) for the local farmers. Still shoot one now and then if
someone's crops are being eaten and they ask my help (I don't charge
anymore). Never used the kind of loads they use though. A simple .22
long rifle with a scope behind the ear was the most humane way.
and it didn't alert others the way an exploding carcass does so you can
be more effective in reducing the population in a days work.

I think these folks get off on the carnage more than doing any farmer a
favor. One link on the FAQ tells it all,
http://www.seekersoftheredmist.com The "Red Mist" is their objective here.
It's hardly a sport. No skill needed once you have a properly sighted in
gun sand bagged in the prone position with targets that stand up and
pose for you. I suggest they shoot watermelons. It's more impressive
carnage for their high speed cameras and heavy loads and just as
challenging. But then again, it wouldn't spawn hate mail so where's the
fun in that?

My .02

Perry

FrankW wrote:
> I've been hunting for many years also
> and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
> hunters who would get a kick out of it.
>
> One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".
>
> As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
> to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
> eliminated from their fields.
>
> Nathan Collier wrote:
>
>> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>>
>>
>>
>> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they
>> detrimental to
>> wilderness areas or something?
>>

>



Perry Gagnon 10-15-2003 01:58 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I made some good money as a kid hunting "ground hogs" (we call them wood
chucks) for the local farmers. Still shoot one now and then if
someone's crops are being eaten and they ask my help (I don't charge
anymore). Never used the kind of loads they use though. A simple .22
long rifle with a scope behind the ear was the most humane way.
and it didn't alert others the way an exploding carcass does so you can
be more effective in reducing the population in a days work.

I think these folks get off on the carnage more than doing any farmer a
favor. One link on the FAQ tells it all,
http://www.seekersoftheredmist.com The "Red Mist" is their objective here.
It's hardly a sport. No skill needed once you have a properly sighted in
gun sand bagged in the prone position with targets that stand up and
pose for you. I suggest they shoot watermelons. It's more impressive
carnage for their high speed cameras and heavy loads and just as
challenging. But then again, it wouldn't spawn hate mail so where's the
fun in that?

My .02

Perry

FrankW wrote:
> I've been hunting for many years also
> and felt the same way (sick). I do know some
> hunters who would get a kick out of it.
>
> One particular person we nicknamed "Lester Splatter".
>
> As for the sport, I do know, a lot of farmers would pay
> to have the "Ground Hogs" (as they're called in our area)
> eliminated from their fields.
>
> Nathan Collier wrote:
>
>> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>> Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>>
>>
>>
>> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they
>> detrimental to
>> wilderness areas or something?
>>

>



Will Honea 10-15-2003 03:26 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:17:28 UTC "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?


You've never ridden a horse or run cattle on an open range or you
wouldn't ask what the big deal is. That part aside, they carry fleas
which transmit Bubonic plague. Farmers and ranchers pay good money to
exterminators, exterminators in built up areas make good money from
the Health Dept. for their work.

Picture this one: a truck with a big vacuum cleaner drives up, drops
the hose into a hole and starts sucking out rodents. That's the
current "humane" way to clean out the little pests.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea 10-15-2003 03:26 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:17:28 UTC "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?


You've never ridden a horse or run cattle on an open range or you
wouldn't ask what the big deal is. That part aside, they carry fleas
which transmit Bubonic plague. Farmers and ranchers pay good money to
exterminators, exterminators in built up areas make good money from
the Health Dept. for their work.

Picture this one: a truck with a big vacuum cleaner drives up, drops
the hose into a hole and starts sucking out rodents. That's the
current "humane" way to clean out the little pests.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Will Honea 10-15-2003 03:26 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:17:28 UTC "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:

> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?


You've never ridden a horse or run cattle on an open range or you
wouldn't ask what the big deal is. That part aside, they carry fleas
which transmit Bubonic plague. Farmers and ranchers pay good money to
exterminators, exterminators in built up areas make good money from
the Health Dept. for their work.

Picture this one: a truck with a big vacuum cleaner drives up, drops
the hose into a hole and starts sucking out rodents. That's the
current "humane" way to clean out the little pests.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 03:48 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-7Q1UsmVDJ8zJ@anon.none.net...
> You've never ridden a horse or run cattle on an open range or you
> wouldn't ask what the big deal is.


granted. i just found it disturbing that they laughed and cheered about the
gross mutilation. my daughter saw one segment of it and cried.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com





Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 03:48 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-7Q1UsmVDJ8zJ@anon.none.net...
> You've never ridden a horse or run cattle on an open range or you
> wouldn't ask what the big deal is.


granted. i just found it disturbing that they laughed and cheered about the
gross mutilation. my daughter saw one segment of it and cried.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com





Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 03:48 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-7Q1UsmVDJ8zJ@anon.none.net...
> You've never ridden a horse or run cattle on an open range or you
> wouldn't ask what the big deal is.


granted. i just found it disturbing that they laughed and cheered about the
gross mutilation. my daughter saw one segment of it and cried.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com





L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 04:45 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Here's where we realize the difference between NATO 7.62 ammunition
used in say a Russian AK 1947 assault weapon, and a American 30-06. my
..308 will pass through a watermelon, or this rodent without even moving
it, the my 30-06 obliterates them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:
>
> > Hey Nathan
> > Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.

>
> Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
> Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
> Wyoming, etc.
>
> The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
> days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
> wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
> if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
> practice for antelope hunting.
>
> Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.
>
> > Check out these vid's
> > http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
> >

>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 04:45 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Here's where we realize the difference between NATO 7.62 ammunition
used in say a Russian AK 1947 assault weapon, and a American 30-06. my
..308 will pass through a watermelon, or this rodent without even moving
it, the my 30-06 obliterates them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:
>
> > Hey Nathan
> > Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.

>
> Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
> Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
> Wyoming, etc.
>
> The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
> days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
> wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
> if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
> practice for antelope hunting.
>
> Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.
>
> > Check out these vid's
> > http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
> >

>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 04:45 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Here's where we realize the difference between NATO 7.62 ammunition
used in say a Russian AK 1947 assault weapon, and a American 30-06. my
..308 will pass through a watermelon, or this rodent without even moving
it, the my 30-06 obliterates them.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Approximately 10/15/03 08:07, FrankW uttered for posterity:
>
> > Hey Nathan
> > Looks like Prairie Dog hunting is big in Montana.

>
> Prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. Called varmint hunting.
> Available in Montana, Nebraska, both Dakotas, Utah,
> Wyoming, etc.
>
> The dogs are a hazard to livestock. For light wind
> days, the .22-250, .223, .25-06 are popular, for heavier
> wind days the .264, .7mm magnums are better particularly
> if you are varminting at 300-400 yards or more. Good
> practice for antelope hunting.
>
> Chucks are a bit more of a challenge.
>
> > Check out these vid's
> > http://dogbegone.com/video.htm
> > Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.
> >

>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 05:04 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I can safely say you've never own a horse or pony:
http://www.----------.com/marble.jpg I used to get ten cents a gofer,
probably the reason I got to join my 4H gun club at age nine:
http://www.----------.com/4Hdurock.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Nathan Collier wrote:
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 05:04 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I can safely say you've never own a horse or pony:
http://www.----------.com/marble.jpg I used to get ten cents a gofer,
probably the reason I got to join my 4H gun club at age nine:
http://www.----------.com/4Hdurock.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Nathan Collier wrote:
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 05:04 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
I can safely say you've never own a horse or pony:
http://www.----------.com/marble.jpg I used to get ten cents a gofer,
probably the reason I got to join my 4H gun club at age nine:
http://www.----------.com/4Hdurock.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Nathan Collier wrote:
>
> ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
> watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
> wilderness areas or something?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com


twaldron 10-15-2003 05:16 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
....and then there's Monkey Pox...

Lon Stowell wrote:

> Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:
>
>
>>"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>>news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>>Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>>
>>ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>>watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
>>wilderness areas or something?
>>

>
> A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
> vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
> the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
> out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
> to see.
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 10-15-2003 05:16 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
....and then there's Monkey Pox...

Lon Stowell wrote:

> Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:
>
>
>>"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>>news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>>Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>>
>>ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>>watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
>>wilderness areas or something?
>>

>
> A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
> vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
> the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
> out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
> to see.
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 10-15-2003 05:16 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
....and then there's Monkey Pox...

Lon Stowell wrote:

> Approximately 10/15/03 09:17, Nathan Collier uttered for posterity:
>
>
>>"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
>>news:5tOdnVVMGMEX_xCiU-KYgw@magma.ca...
>>
>>>Please note: These clips are quite graphic for non hunters.

>>
>>ive been a hunter for most of my life but just couldnt "feel good" about
>>watching them. whats the big deal with prarie dogs, are they detrimental to
>>wilderness areas or something?
>>

>
> A cow or horse moving quickly can drop a foot into a dog
> vent hole and break a limb easily. They will tend to avoid
> the more clustered colony areas, but the extended holes
> out in the middle of nowhere are pretty much impossible
> to see.
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 05:17 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DB660.FBD117C8@cox.net...
> I can safely say you've never own a horse or pony:


how do you arrive at that bill? ive owned many horses over the years.....we
just dont have prairie dogs on the east coast.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com





Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 05:17 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DB660.FBD117C8@cox.net...
> I can safely say you've never own a horse or pony:


how do you arrive at that bill? ive owned many horses over the years.....we
just dont have prairie dogs on the east coast.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com





Nathan Collier 10-15-2003 05:17 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F8DB660.FBD117C8@cox.net...
> I can safely say you've never own a horse or pony:


how do you arrive at that bill? ive owned many horses over the years.....we
just dont have prairie dogs on the east coast.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com





L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 05:45 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Nor ground squirrels or gofer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nathan Collier wrote:
>
> how do you arrive at that bill? ive owned many horses over the years.....we
> just dont have prairie dogs on the east coast.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 05:45 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Nor ground squirrels or gofer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nathan Collier wrote:
>
> how do you arrive at that bill? ive owned many horses over the years.....we
> just dont have prairie dogs on the east coast.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-15-2003 05:45 PM

Re: O.T. Ping Nathan... Rat hunting in Montana
 
Nor ground squirrels or gofer.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nathan Collier wrote:
>
> how do you arrive at that bill? ive owned many horses over the years.....we
> just dont have prairie dogs on the east coast.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com



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