Wrong Bill Americans were driving front wheel drive cars since 1966
The Oldsmobile Toronado, which reintroduced front-drive to the U.S. market
in 1966, also used a longitudinal engine placement for its V-8, coupled with
an unusual "split" transmission, which turned the engine power 90 degrees.
The driveline was set well behind the centerpoint of the wheels, however,
for better weight distribution. (Consequently, it was sometimes called the
Mafia car, because it was "all hood").

The Cadillac Eldorado, with front wheel drive introduced in 1967, holds the
record for the largest engine in a front wheel drive production vehicle, at
8.2 liters (The 1970 edition). The Cadillac Eldorado continued to be the
only front wheel drive offering from Cadillac until 1980, when the front
wheel drive Cadillac Seville was introduced. Reasons cited for the enormous
engine are smoothness due to the inertia of the engine soaking up much of
the vibration caused by low milling tolerances of the era, resulting in a
very smooth ride.

The changeover of cars in the US to front wheel drive began in earnest in
the 1980s, with the introduction of the compact Chevrolet Citation probably
marking the real beginning, and the 1986 introduction of the Ford Taurus
bringing front wheel drive to prominence in mid-size cars. By the mid 1980s
most formerly rear wheel drive Japanese models were front wheel drive, and
by the mid 1990s most American brands only sold a handful of rear wheel
drive models. Some suggest that the introduction of the Volkswagen Rabbit in
1974 led to Detroit's Big Three to market the FF layout; Chrysler's vehicle
lineup was 100% FF by decade's end. GM followed Chrysler in the mid-1990s
when their vehicle lineup was FF (with the exception of the Corvette and
F-body lineup).

The vast majority of front wheel drive vehicles today use the transversely
mounted engine with "end-on" mounted transmission, driving the front wheels
via driveshafts linked via Constant Velocity (CV) joints. This configuration
was made popular by the Fiat 128 of 1969. The 1959 Mini, while a pioneering
transverse front wheel drive vehicle, used a substantially different
arrangement with the transmission in the sump of the engine.



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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> The heck it's not! We as Americans didn't have puny front wheel
> cars until the Chrysler KCar and the crap they made after that! That's
> the biggest reason the screaming greenies can't get the Real Americans
> out of the giant SUVs! You saw the sleeve on Rod's NV3500! Sh*t a 1940
> Borg Warner T90 made for a flat head would be stronger.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> That's a given, considering the 3550 wasn't even around then. But as
>> usual,
>> it's irrelevant. You asked:

 

The operative word was "PUNY" American Transmissions and their
monster V8s were not puny!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Coasty wrote:
>
> Wrong Bill Americans were driving front wheel drive cars since 1966
> The Oldsmobile Toronado, which reintroduced front-drive to the U.S. market
> in 1966, also used a longitudinal engine placement for its V-8, coupled with
> an unusual "split" transmission, which turned the engine power 90 degrees.
> The driveline was set well behind the centerpoint of the wheels, however,
> for better weight distribution. (Consequently, it was sometimes called the
> Mafia car, because it was "all hood").
>
> The Cadillac Eldorado, with front wheel drive introduced in 1967, holds the
> record for the largest engine in a front wheel drive production vehicle, at
> 8.2 liters (The 1970 edition). The Cadillac Eldorado continued to be the
> only front wheel drive offering from Cadillac until 1980, when the front
> wheel drive Cadillac Seville was introduced. Reasons cited for the enormous
> engine are smoothness due to the inertia of the engine soaking up much of
> the vibration caused by low milling tolerances of the era, resulting in a
> very smooth ride.
>
> The changeover of cars in the US to front wheel drive began in earnest in
> the 1980s, with the introduction of the compact Chevrolet Citation probably
> marking the real beginning, and the 1986 introduction of the Ford Taurus
> bringing front wheel drive to prominence in mid-size cars. By the mid 1980s
> most formerly rear wheel drive Japanese models were front wheel drive, and
> by the mid 1990s most American brands only sold a handful of rear wheel
> drive models. Some suggest that the introduction of the Volkswagen Rabbit in
> 1974 led to Detroit's Big Three to market the FF layout; Chrysler's vehicle
> lineup was 100% FF by decade's end. GM followed Chrysler in the mid-1990s
> when their vehicle lineup was FF (with the exception of the Corvette and
> F-body lineup).
>
> The vast majority of front wheel drive vehicles today use the transversely
> mounted engine with "end-on" mounted transmission, driving the front wheels
> via driveshafts linked via Constant Velocity (CV) joints. This configuration
> was made popular by the Fiat 128 of 1969. The 1959 Mini, while a pioneering
> transverse front wheel drive vehicle, used a substantially different
> arrangement with the transmission in the sump of the engine.
>
> --
> Coasty

 

The operative word was "PUNY" American Transmissions and their
monster V8s were not puny!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Coasty wrote:
>
> Wrong Bill Americans were driving front wheel drive cars since 1966
> The Oldsmobile Toronado, which reintroduced front-drive to the U.S. market
> in 1966, also used a longitudinal engine placement for its V-8, coupled with
> an unusual "split" transmission, which turned the engine power 90 degrees.
> The driveline was set well behind the centerpoint of the wheels, however,
> for better weight distribution. (Consequently, it was sometimes called the
> Mafia car, because it was "all hood").
>
> The Cadillac Eldorado, with front wheel drive introduced in 1967, holds the
> record for the largest engine in a front wheel drive production vehicle, at
> 8.2 liters (The 1970 edition). The Cadillac Eldorado continued to be the
> only front wheel drive offering from Cadillac until 1980, when the front
> wheel drive Cadillac Seville was introduced. Reasons cited for the enormous
> engine are smoothness due to the inertia of the engine soaking up much of
> the vibration caused by low milling tolerances of the era, resulting in a
> very smooth ride.
>
> The changeover of cars in the US to front wheel drive began in earnest in
> the 1980s, with the introduction of the compact Chevrolet Citation probably
> marking the real beginning, and the 1986 introduction of the Ford Taurus
> bringing front wheel drive to prominence in mid-size cars. By the mid 1980s
> most formerly rear wheel drive Japanese models were front wheel drive, and
> by the mid 1990s most American brands only sold a handful of rear wheel
> drive models. Some suggest that the introduction of the Volkswagen Rabbit in
> 1974 led to Detroit's Big Three to market the FF layout; Chrysler's vehicle
> lineup was 100% FF by decade's end. GM followed Chrysler in the mid-1990s
> when their vehicle lineup was FF (with the exception of the Corvette and
> F-body lineup).
>
> The vast majority of front wheel drive vehicles today use the transversely
> mounted engine with "end-on" mounted transmission, driving the front wheels
> via driveshafts linked via Constant Velocity (CV) joints. This configuration
> was made popular by the Fiat 128 of 1969. The 1959 Mini, while a pioneering
> transverse front wheel drive vehicle, used a substantially different
> arrangement with the transmission in the sump of the engine.
>
> --
> Coasty

 

The operative word was "PUNY" American Transmissions and their
monster V8s were not puny!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Coasty wrote:
>
> Wrong Bill Americans were driving front wheel drive cars since 1966
> The Oldsmobile Toronado, which reintroduced front-drive to the U.S. market
> in 1966, also used a longitudinal engine placement for its V-8, coupled with
> an unusual "split" transmission, which turned the engine power 90 degrees.
> The driveline was set well behind the centerpoint of the wheels, however,
> for better weight distribution. (Consequently, it was sometimes called the
> Mafia car, because it was "all hood").
>
> The Cadillac Eldorado, with front wheel drive introduced in 1967, holds the
> record for the largest engine in a front wheel drive production vehicle, at
> 8.2 liters (The 1970 edition). The Cadillac Eldorado continued to be the
> only front wheel drive offering from Cadillac until 1980, when the front
> wheel drive Cadillac Seville was introduced. Reasons cited for the enormous
> engine are smoothness due to the inertia of the engine soaking up much of
> the vibration caused by low milling tolerances of the era, resulting in a
> very smooth ride.
>
> The changeover of cars in the US to front wheel drive began in earnest in
> the 1980s, with the introduction of the compact Chevrolet Citation probably
> marking the real beginning, and the 1986 introduction of the Ford Taurus
> bringing front wheel drive to prominence in mid-size cars. By the mid 1980s
> most formerly rear wheel drive Japanese models were front wheel drive, and
> by the mid 1990s most American brands only sold a handful of rear wheel
> drive models. Some suggest that the introduction of the Volkswagen Rabbit in
> 1974 led to Detroit's Big Three to market the FF layout; Chrysler's vehicle
> lineup was 100% FF by decade's end. GM followed Chrysler in the mid-1990s
> when their vehicle lineup was FF (with the exception of the Corvette and
> F-body lineup).
>
> The vast majority of front wheel drive vehicles today use the transversely
> mounted engine with "end-on" mounted transmission, driving the front wheels
> via driveshafts linked via Constant Velocity (CV) joints. This configuration
> was made popular by the Fiat 128 of 1969. The 1959 Mini, while a pioneering
> transverse front wheel drive vehicle, used a substantially different
> arrangement with the transmission in the sump of the engine.
>
> --
> Coasty

 

"PUNY" by itself is subjective much as an asumption and there fore has no
true meaning except by the "PUNYER"

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> The operative word was "PUNY" American Transmissions and their
> monster V8s were not puny!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
>>
>> Wrong Bill Americans were driving front wheel drive cars since 1966
>> The Oldsmobile Toronado, which reintroduced front-drive to the U.S.
>> market
>> in 1966, also used a longitudinal engine placement for its V-8, coupled
>> with
>> an unusual "split" transmission, which turned the engine power 90
>> degrees.
>> The driveline was set well behind the centerpoint of the wheels, however,
>> for better weight distribution. (Consequently, it was sometimes called
>> the
>> Mafia car, because it was "all hood").
>>
>> The Cadillac Eldorado, with front wheel drive introduced in 1967, holds
>> the
>> record for the largest engine in a front wheel drive production vehicle,
>> at
>> 8.2 liters (The 1970 edition). The Cadillac Eldorado continued to be the
>> only front wheel drive offering from Cadillac until 1980, when the front
>> wheel drive Cadillac Seville was introduced. Reasons cited for the
>> enormous
>> engine are smoothness due to the inertia of the engine soaking up much of
>> the vibration caused by low milling tolerances of the era, resulting in a
>> very smooth ride.
>>
>> The changeover of cars in the US to front wheel drive began in earnest in
>> the 1980s, with the introduction of the compact Chevrolet Citation
>> probably
>> marking the real beginning, and the 1986 introduction of the Ford Taurus
>> bringing front wheel drive to prominence in mid-size cars. By the mid
>> 1980s
>> most formerly rear wheel drive Japanese models were front wheel drive,
>> and
>> by the mid 1990s most American brands only sold a handful of rear wheel
>> drive models. Some suggest that the introduction of the Volkswagen Rabbit
>> in
>> 1974 led to Detroit's Big Three to market the FF layout; Chrysler's
>> vehicle
>> lineup was 100% FF by decade's end. GM followed Chrysler in the mid-1990s
>> when their vehicle lineup was FF (with the exception of the Corvette and
>> F-body lineup).
>>
>> The vast majority of front wheel drive vehicles today use the
>> transversely
>> mounted engine with "end-on" mounted transmission, driving the front
>> wheels
>> via driveshafts linked via Constant Velocity (CV) joints. This
>> configuration
>> was made popular by the Fiat 128 of 1969. The 1959 Mini, while a
>> pioneering
>> transverse front wheel drive vehicle, used a substantially different
>> arrangement with the transmission in the sump of the engine.
>>
>> --
>> Coasty

 

"PUNY" by itself is subjective much as an asumption and there fore has no
true meaning except by the "PUNYER"

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> The operative word was "PUNY" American Transmissions and their
> monster V8s were not puny!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
>>
>> Wrong Bill Americans were driving front wheel drive cars since 1966
>> The Oldsmobile Toronado, which reintroduced front-drive to the U.S.
>> market
>> in 1966, also used a longitudinal engine placement for its V-8, coupled
>> with
>> an unusual "split" transmission, which turned the engine power 90
>> degrees.
>> The driveline was set well behind the centerpoint of the wheels, however,
>> for better weight distribution. (Consequently, it was sometimes called
>> the
>> Mafia car, because it was "all hood").
>>
>> The Cadillac Eldorado, with front wheel drive introduced in 1967, holds
>> the
>> record for the largest engine in a front wheel drive production vehicle,
>> at
>> 8.2 liters (The 1970 edition). The Cadillac Eldorado continued to be the
>> only front wheel drive offering from Cadillac until 1980, when the front
>> wheel drive Cadillac Seville was introduced. Reasons cited for the
>> enormous
>> engine are smoothness due to the inertia of the engine soaking up much of
>> the vibration caused by low milling tolerances of the era, resulting in a
>> very smooth ride.
>>
>> The changeover of cars in the US to front wheel drive began in earnest in
>> the 1980s, with the introduction of the compact Chevrolet Citation
>> probably
>> marking the real beginning, and the 1986 introduction of the Ford Taurus
>> bringing front wheel drive to prominence in mid-size cars. By the mid
>> 1980s
>> most formerly rear wheel drive Japanese models were front wheel drive,
>> and
>> by the mid 1990s most American brands only sold a handful of rear wheel
>> drive models. Some suggest that the introduction of the Volkswagen Rabbit
>> in
>> 1974 led to Detroit's Big Three to market the FF layout; Chrysler's
>> vehicle
>> lineup was 100% FF by decade's end. GM followed Chrysler in the mid-1990s
>> when their vehicle lineup was FF (with the exception of the Corvette and
>> F-body lineup).
>>
>> The vast majority of front wheel drive vehicles today use the
>> transversely
>> mounted engine with "end-on" mounted transmission, driving the front
>> wheels
>> via driveshafts linked via Constant Velocity (CV) joints. This
>> configuration
>> was made popular by the Fiat 128 of 1969. The 1959 Mini, while a
>> pioneering
>> transverse front wheel drive vehicle, used a substantially different
>> arrangement with the transmission in the sump of the engine.
>>
>> --
>> Coasty

 

"PUNY" by itself is subjective much as an asumption and there fore has no
true meaning except by the "PUNYER"

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> The operative word was "PUNY" American Transmissions and their
> monster V8s were not puny!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
>>
>> Wrong Bill Americans were driving front wheel drive cars since 1966
>> The Oldsmobile Toronado, which reintroduced front-drive to the U.S.
>> market
>> in 1966, also used a longitudinal engine placement for its V-8, coupled
>> with
>> an unusual "split" transmission, which turned the engine power 90
>> degrees.
>> The driveline was set well behind the centerpoint of the wheels, however,
>> for better weight distribution. (Consequently, it was sometimes called
>> the
>> Mafia car, because it was "all hood").
>>
>> The Cadillac Eldorado, with front wheel drive introduced in 1967, holds
>> the
>> record for the largest engine in a front wheel drive production vehicle,
>> at
>> 8.2 liters (The 1970 edition). The Cadillac Eldorado continued to be the
>> only front wheel drive offering from Cadillac until 1980, when the front
>> wheel drive Cadillac Seville was introduced. Reasons cited for the
>> enormous
>> engine are smoothness due to the inertia of the engine soaking up much of
>> the vibration caused by low milling tolerances of the era, resulting in a
>> very smooth ride.
>>
>> The changeover of cars in the US to front wheel drive began in earnest in
>> the 1980s, with the introduction of the compact Chevrolet Citation
>> probably
>> marking the real beginning, and the 1986 introduction of the Ford Taurus
>> bringing front wheel drive to prominence in mid-size cars. By the mid
>> 1980s
>> most formerly rear wheel drive Japanese models were front wheel drive,
>> and
>> by the mid 1990s most American brands only sold a handful of rear wheel
>> drive models. Some suggest that the introduction of the Volkswagen Rabbit
>> in
>> 1974 led to Detroit's Big Three to market the FF layout; Chrysler's
>> vehicle
>> lineup was 100% FF by decade's end. GM followed Chrysler in the mid-1990s
>> when their vehicle lineup was FF (with the exception of the Corvette and
>> F-body lineup).
>>
>> The vast majority of front wheel drive vehicles today use the
>> transversely
>> mounted engine with "end-on" mounted transmission, driving the front
>> wheels
>> via driveshafts linked via Constant Velocity (CV) joints. This
>> configuration
>> was made popular by the Fiat 128 of 1969. The 1959 Mini, while a
>> pioneering
>> transverse front wheel drive vehicle, used a substantially different
>> arrangement with the transmission in the sump of the engine.
>>
>> --
>> Coasty

 

Basically would "you" call a Cadillac or Olds, puny? It diffidently
wouldn't have the TJ's first gear in it:
http://www.----------.com/temp/nv3550.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Coasty wrote:
>
> "PUNY" by itself is subjective much as an asumption and there fore has no
> true meaning except by the "PUNYER"
>
> --
> Coasty

 

Basically would "you" call a Cadillac or Olds, puny? It diffidently
wouldn't have the TJ's first gear in it:
http://www.----------.com/temp/nv3550.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Coasty wrote:
>
> "PUNY" by itself is subjective much as an asumption and there fore has no
> true meaning except by the "PUNYER"
>
> --
> Coasty

 

Basically would "you" call a Cadillac or Olds, puny? It diffidently
wouldn't have the TJ's first gear in it:
http://www.----------.com/temp/nv3550.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Coasty wrote:
>
> "PUNY" by itself is subjective much as an asumption and there fore has no
> true meaning except by the "PUNYER"
>
> --
> Coasty