Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.

Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
on some YJ's without too much rub.

You are adding 4"!!!!

I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
it can take 31's with no rub.

I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
it hits that before the tire tags.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> re-useable when I install the kit?
>
> Carl
>
> "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I think
> > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring kit,
> I'll
> > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed the
> > > same
> > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > >
> > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1" shackle
> lift
> > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to stay
> away
> > > from them as much as possible.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with the
33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2" body
lift.

Carl

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
> You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
>
> Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> on some YJ's without too much rub.
>
> You are adding 4"!!!!
>
> I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
> it can take 31's with no rub.
>
> I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
> tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
> it hits that before the tire tags.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> > re-useable when I install the kit?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
think
> > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > >
> > > -Brian
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
kit,
> > I'll
> > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed
the
> > > > same
> > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > > >
> > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
shackle
> > lift
> > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
stay
> > away
> > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with the
33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2" body
lift.

Carl

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
> You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
>
> Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> on some YJ's without too much rub.
>
> You are adding 4"!!!!
>
> I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
> it can take 31's with no rub.
>
> I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
> tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
> it hits that before the tire tags.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> > re-useable when I install the kit?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
think
> > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > >
> > > -Brian
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
kit,
> > I'll
> > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed
the
> > > > same
> > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > > >
> > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
shackle
> > lift
> > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
stay
> > away
> > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with the
33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2" body
lift.

Carl

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
> You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
>
> Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> on some YJ's without too much rub.
>
> You are adding 4"!!!!
>
> I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
> it can take 31's with no rub.
>
> I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
> tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
> it hits that before the tire tags.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> > re-useable when I install the kit?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
think
> > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > >
> > > -Brian
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
kit,
> > I'll
> > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed
the
> > > > same
> > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > > >
> > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
shackle
> > lift
> > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
stay
> > away
> > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with the
33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2" body
lift.

Carl

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
> You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
>
> Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> on some YJ's without too much rub.
>
> You are adding 4"!!!!
>
> I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
> it can take 31's with no rub.
>
> I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
> tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
> it hits that before the tire tags.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> > re-useable when I install the kit?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
think
> > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > >
> > > -Brian
> > >
> > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
kit,
> > I'll
> > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed
the
> > > > same
> > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > > >
> > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
shackle
> > lift
> > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
stay
> > away
> > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

I 'think' by some info in another thread that that lift comes with
longer shackles and shims?

If so, then if yours are the same length and 'better' quality I would
just use them.

I have YJ shackles in my CJ7 (1" longer only) with stock new Jeep
springs arched 2.5" and the shackles affect the steering. It won't self
center well after a turn, you have to crank the wheel back to center and
I have a slight rear driveshaft vibe with no load on.

Mike

Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with the
> 33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
> maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2" body
> lift.
>
> Carl
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> > You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> > longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
> > You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> > with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> > real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> > usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> > head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
> >
> > Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> > on some YJ's without too much rub.
> >
> > You are adding 4"!!!!
> >
> > I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
> > it can take 31's with no rub.
> >
> > I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
> > tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
> > it hits that before the tire tags.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >
> > > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> > > re-useable when I install the kit?
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
> think
> > > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > > >
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
> kit,
> > > I'll
> > > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed
> the
> > > > > same
> > > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > > > >
> > > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
> shackle
> > > lift
> > > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
> stay
> > > away
> > > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

I 'think' by some info in another thread that that lift comes with
longer shackles and shims?

If so, then if yours are the same length and 'better' quality I would
just use them.

I have YJ shackles in my CJ7 (1" longer only) with stock new Jeep
springs arched 2.5" and the shackles affect the steering. It won't self
center well after a turn, you have to crank the wheel back to center and
I have a slight rear driveshaft vibe with no load on.

Mike

Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with the
> 33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
> maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2" body
> lift.
>
> Carl
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> > You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> > longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
> > You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> > with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> > real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> > usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> > head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
> >
> > Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> > on some YJ's without too much rub.
> >
> > You are adding 4"!!!!
> >
> > I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
> > it can take 31's with no rub.
> >
> > I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
> > tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
> > it hits that before the tire tags.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >
> > > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> > > re-useable when I install the kit?
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
> think
> > > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > > >
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
> kit,
> > > I'll
> > > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed
> the
> > > > > same
> > > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > > > >
> > > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
> shackle
> > > lift
> > > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
> stay
> > > away
> > > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

I 'think' by some info in another thread that that lift comes with
longer shackles and shims?

If so, then if yours are the same length and 'better' quality I would
just use them.

I have YJ shackles in my CJ7 (1" longer only) with stock new Jeep
springs arched 2.5" and the shackles affect the steering. It won't self
center well after a turn, you have to crank the wheel back to center and
I have a slight rear driveshaft vibe with no load on.

Mike

Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with the
> 33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
> maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2" body
> lift.
>
> Carl
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> > You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> > longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
> > You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> > with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> > real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> > usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> > head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
> >
> > Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> > on some YJ's without too much rub.
> >
> > You are adding 4"!!!!
> >
> > I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
> > it can take 31's with no rub.
> >
> > I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
> > tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
> > it hits that before the tire tags.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >
> > > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> > > re-useable when I install the kit?
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
> think
> > > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > > >
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
> kit,
> > > I'll
> > > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed
> the
> > > > > same
> > > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > > > >
> > > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
> shackle
> > > lift
> > > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
> stay
> > > away
> > > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

I 'think' by some info in another thread that that lift comes with
longer shackles and shims?

If so, then if yours are the same length and 'better' quality I would
just use them.

I have YJ shackles in my CJ7 (1" longer only) with stock new Jeep
springs arched 2.5" and the shackles affect the steering. It won't self
center well after a turn, you have to crank the wheel back to center and
I have a slight rear driveshaft vibe with no load on.

Mike

Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with the
> 33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
> maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2" body
> lift.
>
> Carl
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> > You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> > longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be trouble.
> > You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> > with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> > real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> > usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> > head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
> >
> > Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> > on some YJ's without too much rub.
> >
> > You are adding 4"!!!!
> >
> > I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7, but
> > it can take 31's with no rub.
> >
> > I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If you
> > tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height so
> > it hits that before the tire tags.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > >
> > > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these be
> > > re-useable when I install the kit?
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
> think
> > > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > > >
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
> kit,
> > > I'll
> > > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that installed
> the
> > > > > same
> > > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's right?
> > > > >
> > > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
> shackle
> > > lift
> > > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
> stay
> > > away
> > > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Now another lift quesiton..
 

http://www.rubiconexpress.com/dynami...p?folderid=186

RE5515. Comes with shims, but no shackles. A friend told me something about
possibly needing angle shackles because the springs are "full military
wrap"?



Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4287DE27.38452CA2@sympatico.ca...
> I 'think' by some info in another thread that that lift comes with
> longer shackles and shims?
>
> If so, then if yours are the same length and 'better' quality I would
> just use them.
>
> I have YJ shackles in my CJ7 (1" longer only) with stock new Jeep
> springs arched 2.5" and the shackles affect the steering. It won't self
> center well after a turn, you have to crank the wheel back to center and
> I have a slight rear driveshaft vibe with no load on.
>
> Mike
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > So I need to get stock type shackles again? I'll put the 4" kit on with
the
> > 33x 12.5's and if I rub I'll probably to a shackle reversal in the front
> > maybe a 1" shackle in the rear? Then if I MUST, I'll go with a 1 or 2"
body
> > lift.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4287CFDA.C2916B35@sympatico.ca...
> > > You are going to have to be really careful with the alignment with
> > > longer shackles. Adding two aftermarket lifts together can be
trouble.
> > > You have to start messing with shims or try and find an alignment shop
> > > with shim sets to get it back proper. Some combinations can turn into
> > > real abortions with the steering control extremely compromised. These
> > > usually turn into 'trailer queens' that have to be hauled to the trail
> > > head because they aren't safe over 40 mph.
> > >
> > > Now as far as fitting tires, stock 31x10.5's will 'work' on the street
> > > on some YJ's without too much rub.
> > >
> > > You are adding 4"!!!!
> > >
> > > I only had to add 3" to have tons of room for 33x9.5's's on my CJ7,
but
> > > it can take 31's with no rub.
> > >
> > > I would sure try it without the body lift and see what happens. If
you
> > > tag at full flex, you can always add a little to the bump stop height
so
> > > it hits that before the tire tags.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Carl Saiyed wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I belive we did. My YJ now has 1" lift shackles on it.. Will these
be
> > > > re-useable when I install the kit?
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-Ltd" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:LMednWK5H5lZWhrfRVn-2g@rogers.com...
> > > > > I can't see needing 4" + 2" to fit 33's on a YJ but anyway...
> > > > > Be careful messing around with shackles on replacement springs. I
> > think
> > > > > we've had this conversation before regarding your XJ.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:4287be49$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > > > The Rubicon Express site says that with thier standard 4" spring
> > kit,
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > clear the 33x12.5's on my YJ no problem... A friend that
installed
> > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > kit said that he had to add a 2" body lift to clear. Who's
right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If indeed the 4" spring kit isn't tall enough, can I add a 1"
> > shackle
> > > > lift
> > > > > > and a 1" body lift to clear? I don't like body lifts and want to
> > stay
> > > > away
> > > > > > from them as much as possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carl
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >