No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
09-24-2003, 02:13 AM
#31
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
Scooby Don't wrote:
> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>
> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542
>
Ack! I drowned a King Quad at Pismo launching a Sea-Doo once. A little
less expensive that totalling a 'Vette, though!
> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>
> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542
>
Ack! I drowned a King Quad at Pismo launching a Sea-Doo once. A little
less expensive that totalling a 'Vette, though!
09-24-2003, 02:21 AM
#32
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
Short wheelbase??? - I can see where weight of towing vehicle, "beefiness"
of frame, suspension, etc would make a significant difference - What about a
short little 2 axle KW pulling triples (long & heavy)??
--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F70F0B4.9279526B@sympatico.ca...
> Tim Hayes wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally
> > > and safely.
> >
> > Legally?
> >
> > Can you elaborate?
> >
> > I'm not challenging your statement, but I've never heard of that before.
> > But I also don't tow much so I'm not exactly familiar with the various
> > rules.
> >
> > I have a new '03 TJ Sahara and next summer I need a trailer for camping.
> > I have been considering small tent-trailers which hover around 2000lbs
> > to start with so it's possible I might want to tow 2000-2500 lbs. The
> > other choice is of course a nice offroad trailer which isn't ever going
> > to hit a GVWR of 2000lbs with just camping gear unless I'm packing a
> > *lot* of water.
>
> If you have an accident of any kind where the police show up and they
> check the trailer and find it is over your GVWR, they will bust you for
> it and order a tow truck for the trailer. If you can't pay the tow
> home, it goes to impound.
>
> Our local newspaper reported on the Labor Day weekend police blitz there
> were 10 or 15 vehicles nailed for towing too big a trailer for the
> vehicle. Cops look for that.
>
> They have portable scales in the trunk or someone they can call fast
> with them, if they can't find the label on the trailer. Same for the
> MTO police here in Canada, they are the 'truckers' police. Any vehicle
> towing comes into their turf too and they all carry scales.
>
> Been there, done that with a home made bunk trailer behind a 1/2 ton GMC
> pickup, got busted for it... Cop said $2000.00 in fines without
> 'looking' at my beater truck.... Got lucky and only had to have it
> towed a couple miles. No ticket...
>
> Had a 'good' story, it was legit and he believed me... :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
of frame, suspension, etc would make a significant difference - What about a
short little 2 axle KW pulling triples (long & heavy)??
--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F70F0B4.9279526B@sympatico.ca...
> Tim Hayes wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally
> > > and safely.
> >
> > Legally?
> >
> > Can you elaborate?
> >
> > I'm not challenging your statement, but I've never heard of that before.
> > But I also don't tow much so I'm not exactly familiar with the various
> > rules.
> >
> > I have a new '03 TJ Sahara and next summer I need a trailer for camping.
> > I have been considering small tent-trailers which hover around 2000lbs
> > to start with so it's possible I might want to tow 2000-2500 lbs. The
> > other choice is of course a nice offroad trailer which isn't ever going
> > to hit a GVWR of 2000lbs with just camping gear unless I'm packing a
> > *lot* of water.
>
> If you have an accident of any kind where the police show up and they
> check the trailer and find it is over your GVWR, they will bust you for
> it and order a tow truck for the trailer. If you can't pay the tow
> home, it goes to impound.
>
> Our local newspaper reported on the Labor Day weekend police blitz there
> were 10 or 15 vehicles nailed for towing too big a trailer for the
> vehicle. Cops look for that.
>
> They have portable scales in the trunk or someone they can call fast
> with them, if they can't find the label on the trailer. Same for the
> MTO police here in Canada, they are the 'truckers' police. Any vehicle
> towing comes into their turf too and they all carry scales.
>
> Been there, done that with a home made bunk trailer behind a 1/2 ton GMC
> pickup, got busted for it... Cop said $2000.00 in fines without
> 'looking' at my beater truck.... Got lucky and only had to have it
> towed a couple miles. No ticket...
>
> Had a 'good' story, it was legit and he believed me... :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-24-2003, 02:21 AM
#33
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
Short wheelbase??? - I can see where weight of towing vehicle, "beefiness"
of frame, suspension, etc would make a significant difference - What about a
short little 2 axle KW pulling triples (long & heavy)??
--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F70F0B4.9279526B@sympatico.ca...
> Tim Hayes wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally
> > > and safely.
> >
> > Legally?
> >
> > Can you elaborate?
> >
> > I'm not challenging your statement, but I've never heard of that before.
> > But I also don't tow much so I'm not exactly familiar with the various
> > rules.
> >
> > I have a new '03 TJ Sahara and next summer I need a trailer for camping.
> > I have been considering small tent-trailers which hover around 2000lbs
> > to start with so it's possible I might want to tow 2000-2500 lbs. The
> > other choice is of course a nice offroad trailer which isn't ever going
> > to hit a GVWR of 2000lbs with just camping gear unless I'm packing a
> > *lot* of water.
>
> If you have an accident of any kind where the police show up and they
> check the trailer and find it is over your GVWR, they will bust you for
> it and order a tow truck for the trailer. If you can't pay the tow
> home, it goes to impound.
>
> Our local newspaper reported on the Labor Day weekend police blitz there
> were 10 or 15 vehicles nailed for towing too big a trailer for the
> vehicle. Cops look for that.
>
> They have portable scales in the trunk or someone they can call fast
> with them, if they can't find the label on the trailer. Same for the
> MTO police here in Canada, they are the 'truckers' police. Any vehicle
> towing comes into their turf too and they all carry scales.
>
> Been there, done that with a home made bunk trailer behind a 1/2 ton GMC
> pickup, got busted for it... Cop said $2000.00 in fines without
> 'looking' at my beater truck.... Got lucky and only had to have it
> towed a couple miles. No ticket...
>
> Had a 'good' story, it was legit and he believed me... :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
of frame, suspension, etc would make a significant difference - What about a
short little 2 axle KW pulling triples (long & heavy)??
--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F70F0B4.9279526B@sympatico.ca...
> Tim Hayes wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally
> > > and safely.
> >
> > Legally?
> >
> > Can you elaborate?
> >
> > I'm not challenging your statement, but I've never heard of that before.
> > But I also don't tow much so I'm not exactly familiar with the various
> > rules.
> >
> > I have a new '03 TJ Sahara and next summer I need a trailer for camping.
> > I have been considering small tent-trailers which hover around 2000lbs
> > to start with so it's possible I might want to tow 2000-2500 lbs. The
> > other choice is of course a nice offroad trailer which isn't ever going
> > to hit a GVWR of 2000lbs with just camping gear unless I'm packing a
> > *lot* of water.
>
> If you have an accident of any kind where the police show up and they
> check the trailer and find it is over your GVWR, they will bust you for
> it and order a tow truck for the trailer. If you can't pay the tow
> home, it goes to impound.
>
> Our local newspaper reported on the Labor Day weekend police blitz there
> were 10 or 15 vehicles nailed for towing too big a trailer for the
> vehicle. Cops look for that.
>
> They have portable scales in the trunk or someone they can call fast
> with them, if they can't find the label on the trailer. Same for the
> MTO police here in Canada, they are the 'truckers' police. Any vehicle
> towing comes into their turf too and they all carry scales.
>
> Been there, done that with a home made bunk trailer behind a 1/2 ton GMC
> pickup, got busted for it... Cop said $2000.00 in fines without
> 'looking' at my beater truck.... Got lucky and only had to have it
> towed a couple miles. No ticket...
>
> Had a 'good' story, it was legit and he believed me... :-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-24-2003, 02:22 AM
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:13:20 -0700, Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote:
>Scooby Don't wrote:
>
>> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>
>> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542
>>
>Ack! I drowned a King Quad at Pismo launching a Sea-Doo once. A little
>less expensive that totalling a 'Vette, though!
Just think it could have been a Ferrari. :)
>Scooby Don't wrote:
>
>> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>
>> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542
>>
>Ack! I drowned a King Quad at Pismo launching a Sea-Doo once. A little
>less expensive that totalling a 'Vette, though!
Just think it could have been a Ferrari. :)
09-24-2003, 02:22 AM
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:13:20 -0700, Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote:
>Scooby Don't wrote:
>
>> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>
>> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542
>>
>Ack! I drowned a King Quad at Pismo launching a Sea-Doo once. A little
>less expensive that totalling a 'Vette, though!
Just think it could have been a Ferrari. :)
>Scooby Don't wrote:
>
>> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>
>> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542
>>
>Ack! I drowned a King Quad at Pismo launching a Sea-Doo once. A little
>less expensive that totalling a 'Vette, though!
Just think it could have been a Ferrari. :)
09-24-2003, 08:00 AM
#36
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
Fifth wheel, the weight and leverage is forward of the axle. And
the wheel base may only appear to be shorter than a Jeep, in the sixty
five foot long combination I used to have to drive:
http://www.----------.com/white.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Carlo Jr." wrote:
>
> Short wheelbase??? - I can see where weight of towing vehicle, "beefiness"
> of frame, suspension, etc would make a significant difference - What about a
> short little 2 axle KW pulling triples (long & heavy)??
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast.net
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
the wheel base may only appear to be shorter than a Jeep, in the sixty
five foot long combination I used to have to drive:
http://www.----------.com/white.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Carlo Jr." wrote:
>
> Short wheelbase??? - I can see where weight of towing vehicle, "beefiness"
> of frame, suspension, etc would make a significant difference - What about a
> short little 2 axle KW pulling triples (long & heavy)??
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast.net
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
09-24-2003, 08:00 AM
#37
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
Fifth wheel, the weight and leverage is forward of the axle. And
the wheel base may only appear to be shorter than a Jeep, in the sixty
five foot long combination I used to have to drive:
http://www.----------.com/white.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Carlo Jr." wrote:
>
> Short wheelbase??? - I can see where weight of towing vehicle, "beefiness"
> of frame, suspension, etc would make a significant difference - What about a
> short little 2 axle KW pulling triples (long & heavy)??
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast.net
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
the wheel base may only appear to be shorter than a Jeep, in the sixty
five foot long combination I used to have to drive:
http://www.----------.com/white.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"Carlo Jr." wrote:
>
> Short wheelbase??? - I can see where weight of towing vehicle, "beefiness"
> of frame, suspension, etc would make a significant difference - What about a
> short little 2 axle KW pulling triples (long & heavy)??
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr at comcast.net
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
09-24-2003, 09:55 AM
#38
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
> A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally and
> safely.
>
> Anything heavier can easily push you sideways if you have to stop fast.
I don't think a single Jet Ski and trailer would weigh over 2000lbs,
and if so not by much. So my concern would not be the wheelbase
length so much as it would the high center of gravity on a lifted
jeep. I'm sure lifting a vehicle changes the physics of towing
dramatically, I just don't know if it is enough of a concern to
justify not towing with it.
> safely.
>
> Anything heavier can easily push you sideways if you have to stop fast.
I don't think a single Jet Ski and trailer would weigh over 2000lbs,
and if so not by much. So my concern would not be the wheelbase
length so much as it would the high center of gravity on a lifted
jeep. I'm sure lifting a vehicle changes the physics of towing
dramatically, I just don't know if it is enough of a concern to
justify not towing with it.
09-24-2003, 09:55 AM
#39
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
> A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally and
> safely.
>
> Anything heavier can easily push you sideways if you have to stop fast.
I don't think a single Jet Ski and trailer would weigh over 2000lbs,
and if so not by much. So my concern would not be the wheelbase
length so much as it would the high center of gravity on a lifted
jeep. I'm sure lifting a vehicle changes the physics of towing
dramatically, I just don't know if it is enough of a concern to
justify not towing with it.
> safely.
>
> Anything heavier can easily push you sideways if you have to stop fast.
I don't think a single Jet Ski and trailer would weigh over 2000lbs,
and if so not by much. So my concern would not be the wheelbase
length so much as it would the high center of gravity on a lifted
jeep. I'm sure lifting a vehicle changes the physics of towing
dramatically, I just don't know if it is enough of a concern to
justify not towing with it.
09-24-2003, 10:01 AM
#40
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Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
Scooby Don't <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> uttered for posterity:
> I've seen Vette's towing dual Jet
> Ski's here. The only problem is if teh ramp has a lot of slime on it.
> Those summer gumballs won't hook up if the ramp is steep.
Moral of the story: Always air down your tires before driving your
sports car onto a boat ramp. :-)
> I've seen Vette's towing dual Jet
> Ski's here. The only problem is if teh ramp has a lot of slime on it.
> Those summer gumballs won't hook up if the ramp is steep.
Moral of the story: Always air down your tires before driving your
sports car onto a boat ramp. :-)