Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:22:27 -0700, "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com>
wrote:

>I ran and lived aboard a swordfish boat in San Diego's Shelter Island
>anchorage for a couple of years. Often, Sunday afternoon entertainment for
>me and the boys was to get a cooler full of beer and our lawn chairs, and
>take the skiff in to sit on the jetty at the launching ramp, and watch the
>show and award points.
>We saw 4 or 5 trucks sink, 3 or 4 boats, a bunch of boat Vs. boat and
>trailer Vs trailer crashes, "person overboard"ings, and a whole lot of angry
>fools hollering at others to cover their incompetence.
>Too much fun! Bring a mask and snorkle, often after something cool is lost
>overboard, they just leave it in 15 feet of water.

I've seen more than a few boats sink because they forgot the drain
plug but never a Vette. :)

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

On 23 Sep 2003 14:28:59 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

>Did you read the ensuing conversation thread about towing? Seems like
>a lot of folks were making fun of the guy for towing with a Corvette.
>That's not something that seems obvious to me, although maybe ground
>clearance is an obvious issue, but as far as torque, brakes, wheelbase
>length, etc., I wouldn't think a Corvette would have any problems.

Yeah I read th whole thing. I've actually towed with a Miata which has
a lot less horsies than a Vette. I've seen Vette's towing dual Jet
Ski's here. The only problem is if teh ramp has a lot of slime on it.
Those summer gumballs won't hook up if the ramp is steep.

>Kinda makes me wonder about towing with a jeep.. (I'm not towing right
>now but have plans to get a jet ski someday, and I figured the jeep
>would make an ideal tow vehicle, although the fact that it is lifted
>makes me nervous, as perhaps towing makes you more likely to roll
>over?)

Jeeps kida suck at towing big things, but for a couple of Jet Ski's or
a snowmobile? No problem. Sure you can't bomb around with a trailer
but the Jeep has a tow rating. Varies between options but I'll bet
it's around 1500 lbs. or so.
I have no idea what affect a lift kit would have.

>PS - Did you notice all the nasty comments about jet skiers??? Looks
>like this isn't the only message board with opsreperousness going on!

It's easier to just say there's a lot of Jet Ski Snobs out there.
I can see being pissed if someone causes you grief on a Jet Ski and
you bump into them in the parking lot or on the ramp. But just because
you own a Jet Ski is no reason to be treated like dirt or a criminal.




>> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>
>> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

On 23 Sep 2003 14:28:59 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

>Did you read the ensuing conversation thread about towing? Seems like
>a lot of folks were making fun of the guy for towing with a Corvette.
>That's not something that seems obvious to me, although maybe ground
>clearance is an obvious issue, but as far as torque, brakes, wheelbase
>length, etc., I wouldn't think a Corvette would have any problems.

Yeah I read th whole thing. I've actually towed with a Miata which has
a lot less horsies than a Vette. I've seen Vette's towing dual Jet
Ski's here. The only problem is if teh ramp has a lot of slime on it.
Those summer gumballs won't hook up if the ramp is steep.

>Kinda makes me wonder about towing with a jeep.. (I'm not towing right
>now but have plans to get a jet ski someday, and I figured the jeep
>would make an ideal tow vehicle, although the fact that it is lifted
>makes me nervous, as perhaps towing makes you more likely to roll
>over?)

Jeeps kida suck at towing big things, but for a couple of Jet Ski's or
a snowmobile? No problem. Sure you can't bomb around with a trailer
but the Jeep has a tow rating. Varies between options but I'll bet
it's around 1500 lbs. or so.
I have no idea what affect a lift kit would have.

>PS - Did you notice all the nasty comments about jet skiers??? Looks
>like this isn't the only message board with opsreperousness going on!

It's easier to just say there's a lot of Jet Ski Snobs out there.
I can see being pissed if someone causes you grief on a Jet Ski and
you bump into them in the parking lot or on the ramp. But just because
you own a Jet Ski is no reason to be treated like dirt or a criminal.




>> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>
>> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

Mike Romain wrote:

> A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally
> and safely.

Legally?

Can you elaborate?

I'm not challenging your statement, but I've never heard of that before.
But I also don't tow much so I'm not exactly familiar with the various
rules.

I have a new '03 TJ Sahara and next summer I need a trailer for camping.
I have been considering small tent-trailers which hover around 2000lbs
to start with so it's possible I might want to tow 2000-2500 lbs. The
other choice is of course a nice offroad trailer which isn't ever going
to hit a GVWR of 2000lbs with just camping gear unless I'm packing a
*lot* of water.

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

Mike Romain wrote:

> A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally
> and safely.

Legally?

Can you elaborate?

I'm not challenging your statement, but I've never heard of that before.
But I also don't tow much so I'm not exactly familiar with the various
rules.

I have a new '03 TJ Sahara and next summer I need a trailer for camping.
I have been considering small tent-trailers which hover around 2000lbs
to start with so it's possible I might want to tow 2000-2500 lbs. The
other choice is of course a nice offroad trailer which isn't ever going
to hit a GVWR of 2000lbs with just camping gear unless I'm packing a
*lot* of water.

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

Tim Hayes wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally
> > and safely.
>
> Legally?
>
> Can you elaborate?
>
> I'm not challenging your statement, but I've never heard of that before.
> But I also don't tow much so I'm not exactly familiar with the various
> rules.
>
> I have a new '03 TJ Sahara and next summer I need a trailer for camping.
> I have been considering small tent-trailers which hover around 2000lbs
> to start with so it's possible I might want to tow 2000-2500 lbs. The
> other choice is of course a nice offroad trailer which isn't ever going
> to hit a GVWR of 2000lbs with just camping gear unless I'm packing a
> *lot* of water.

If you have an accident of any kind where the police show up and they
check the trailer and find it is over your GVWR, they will bust you for
it and order a tow truck for the trailer. If you can't pay the tow
home, it goes to impound.

Our local newspaper reported on the Labor Day weekend police blitz there
were 10 or 15 vehicles nailed for towing too big a trailer for the
vehicle. Cops look for that.

They have portable scales in the trunk or someone they can call fast
with them, if they can't find the label on the trailer. Same for the
MTO police here in Canada, they are the 'truckers' police. Any vehicle
towing comes into their turf too and they all carry scales.

Been there, done that with a home made bunk trailer behind a 1/2 ton GMC
pickup, got busted for it... Cop said $2000.00 in fines without
'looking' at my beater truck.... Got lucky and only had to have it
towed a couple miles. No ticket...

Had a 'good' story, it was legit and he believed me... :-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

Tim Hayes wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > A short wheel base vehicle like a Jeep can only tow 2000 lb legally
> > and safely.
>
> Legally?
>
> Can you elaborate?
>
> I'm not challenging your statement, but I've never heard of that before.
> But I also don't tow much so I'm not exactly familiar with the various
> rules.
>
> I have a new '03 TJ Sahara and next summer I need a trailer for camping.
> I have been considering small tent-trailers which hover around 2000lbs
> to start with so it's possible I might want to tow 2000-2500 lbs. The
> other choice is of course a nice offroad trailer which isn't ever going
> to hit a GVWR of 2000lbs with just camping gear unless I'm packing a
> *lot* of water.

If you have an accident of any kind where the police show up and they
check the trailer and find it is over your GVWR, they will bust you for
it and order a tow truck for the trailer. If you can't pay the tow
home, it goes to impound.

Our local newspaper reported on the Labor Day weekend police blitz there
were 10 or 15 vehicles nailed for towing too big a trailer for the
vehicle. Cops look for that.

They have portable scales in the trunk or someone they can call fast
with them, if they can't find the label on the trailer. Same for the
MTO police here in Canada, they are the 'truckers' police. Any vehicle
towing comes into their turf too and they all carry scales.

Been there, done that with a home made bunk trailer behind a 1/2 ton GMC
pickup, got busted for it... Cop said $2000.00 in fines without
'looking' at my beater truck.... Got lucky and only had to have it
towed a couple miles. No ticket...

Had a 'good' story, it was legit and he believed me... :-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

A single ski on a trailer is about the biggest I thing I would feel comfortable
towing with a Wrangler. A ski + ski trailer doesnt weigh all that much (but they are
worth their weight in fun!!!).



On 23 Sep 2003 14:28:59 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

>>Did you read the ensuing conversation thread about towing? Seems like
>>a lot of folks were making fun of the guy for towing with a Corvette.
>>That's not something that seems obvious to me, although maybe ground
>>clearance is an obvious issue, but as far as torque, brakes, wheelbase
>>length, etc., I wouldn't think a Corvette would have any problems.
>>
>>Kinda makes me wonder about towing with a jeep.. (I'm not towing right
>>now but have plans to get a jet ski someday, and I figured the jeep
>>would make an ideal tow vehicle, although the fact that it is lifted
>>makes me nervous, as perhaps towing makes you more likely to roll
>>over?)
>>
>>
>>PS - Did you notice all the nasty comments about jet skiers??? Looks
>>like this isn't the only message board with opsreperousness going on!
>>
>>
>>> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>>
>>> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

A single ski on a trailer is about the biggest I thing I would feel comfortable
towing with a Wrangler. A ski + ski trailer doesnt weigh all that much (but they are
worth their weight in fun!!!).



On 23 Sep 2003 14:28:59 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:

>>Did you read the ensuing conversation thread about towing? Seems like
>>a lot of folks were making fun of the guy for towing with a Corvette.
>>That's not something that seems obvious to me, although maybe ground
>>clearance is an obvious issue, but as far as torque, brakes, wheelbase
>>length, etc., I wouldn't think a Corvette would have any problems.
>>
>>Kinda makes me wonder about towing with a jeep.. (I'm not towing right
>>now but have plans to get a jet ski someday, and I figured the jeep
>>would make an ideal tow vehicle, although the fact that it is lifted
>>makes me nervous, as perhaps towing makes you more likely to roll
>>over?)
>>
>>
>>PS - Did you notice all the nasty comments about jet skiers??? Looks
>>like this isn't the only message board with opsreperousness going on!
>>
>>
>>> This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>>
>>> http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542

Re: No No NO! You need a Jeep for that not a Vette!
 

Too funny, I saw that happen years ago at a resivoir when I was a kid. Only it was a
Camero towing a ski boat. Someone pulled the car out with a pickup, they opened up
the cars doors, and gallons and gallons of water and some fish came out. It was
hillarious. It was also a long way to the nearest phone.



On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:44:42 GMT, Scooby Don't <Scooby_do_not@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>This guy tries out the Submarine option on his Vette!
>>
>>http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=114542