Peter Stolz

Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> Peter Stolz wrote:
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>> Peter Stolz wrote:
>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>> Peter Stolz wrote:
>>>>>> clay wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you george. I'm using Thunderbird, so I'll have to
>>>>>>>>> figure it out, but there's so much of those two morons and
>>>>>>>>> their pissing match that I can't handle it anymore. The sad
>>>>>>>>> part is that I think both of them can make valuable
>>>>>>>>> contributions to the NG, but neither of them have the
>>>>>>>>> discipline to stop. Very immature on both sides, and the whole
>>>>>>>>> NG pays the price.
>>>>>>>> With Thunderbird you can just right click on the "From:
>>>>>>>> whomever@wherever.com" and choose "Create Filter from Message".
>>>>>>>> Just pick what you want to happen to messages from that source
>>>>>>>> (like delete :-). If the entire thread annoys you cut and paste
>>>>>>>> the thread title into a "New Filter" and choose whatever. That
>>>>>>>> right click on "From:" works wonders for me :-) It keeps the
>>>>>>>> background noise to a minimum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More Thunderbird tricks:
>>>>>>> Close Thunderbird before doing these...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Path to profile. May have to set view hidden folders to see it.
>>>>>>> \Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
>>>>>>> Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\xxxxxx.default\News
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can edit/create filters directly by browsing to your
>>>>>>> profile/news folder and opening rec.autos.makers.jeep+******.dat
>>>>>>> in wordpad.
>>>>>>> Copy an existing filter from `name` to `condition` and paste at
>>>>>>> the end, seasoning to taste.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To make all the existing posts that are filtered go away, delete
>>>>>>> rec.autos.makers.jeep+******.msf.
>>>>>>> It will rebuild when you open TB and all the filtered posts will
>>>>>>> be gone.
>>>>>>> ymmv. use at your own risk. performance not guaranteed. offer not
>>>>>>> valid in all states. etc. etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahhh. Thanks. I'm still trying to figure it out. I just noticed
>>>>>> you guys replied to my post.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>> Hope we helped a bit :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes you did. Now, how did you know I responded to a post of three
>>>> weeks ago? Does TB notify you that somebody responded to a post?
>>>> Right now, I'm just going down the list of threads I marked as
>>>> "watch" and looking to see if anybody added anything.
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Pete
>>> Yup! It just showed up as a new post and of course you weren't in my
>>> "kill file" (message filter in T-bird :-)
>>>
>>
>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>> to the top?
> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space set
> to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out most of
> the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're replies to a
> thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to refer to an old
> post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the way I do it. Most
> people would have the threads of interest to them displayed in full for
> a longer time period.
>

Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see what
works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've only
had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
Pete

Peter Stolz

Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> Peter Stolz wrote:
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>> Peter Stolz wrote:
>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>> Peter Stolz wrote:
>>>>>> clay wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you george. I'm using Thunderbird, so I'll have to
>>>>>>>>> figure it out, but there's so much of those two morons and
>>>>>>>>> their pissing match that I can't handle it anymore. The sad
>>>>>>>>> part is that I think both of them can make valuable
>>>>>>>>> contributions to the NG, but neither of them have the
>>>>>>>>> discipline to stop. Very immature on both sides, and the whole
>>>>>>>>> NG pays the price.
>>>>>>>> With Thunderbird you can just right click on the "From:
>>>>>>>> whomever@wherever.com" and choose "Create Filter from Message".
>>>>>>>> Just pick what you want to happen to messages from that source
>>>>>>>> (like delete :-). If the entire thread annoys you cut and paste
>>>>>>>> the thread title into a "New Filter" and choose whatever. That
>>>>>>>> right click on "From:" works wonders for me :-) It keeps the
>>>>>>>> background noise to a minimum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More Thunderbird tricks:
>>>>>>> Close Thunderbird before doing these...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Path to profile. May have to set view hidden folders to see it.
>>>>>>> \Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
>>>>>>> Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\xxxxxx.default\News
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can edit/create filters directly by browsing to your
>>>>>>> profile/news folder and opening rec.autos.makers.jeep+******.dat
>>>>>>> in wordpad.
>>>>>>> Copy an existing filter from `name` to `condition` and paste at
>>>>>>> the end, seasoning to taste.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To make all the existing posts that are filtered go away, delete
>>>>>>> rec.autos.makers.jeep+******.msf.
>>>>>>> It will rebuild when you open TB and all the filtered posts will
>>>>>>> be gone.
>>>>>>> ymmv. use at your own risk. performance not guaranteed. offer not
>>>>>>> valid in all states. etc. etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahhh. Thanks. I'm still trying to figure it out. I just noticed
>>>>>> you guys replied to my post.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>> Hope we helped a bit :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes you did. Now, how did you know I responded to a post of three
>>>> weeks ago? Does TB notify you that somebody responded to a post?
>>>> Right now, I'm just going down the list of threads I marked as
>>>> "watch" and looking to see if anybody added anything.
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Pete
>>> Yup! It just showed up as a new post and of course you weren't in my
>>> "kill file" (message filter in T-bird :-)
>>>
>>
>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>> to the top?
> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space set
> to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out most of
> the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're replies to a
> thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to refer to an old
> post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the way I do it. Most
> people would have the threads of interest to them displayed in full for
> a longer time period.
>

Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see what
works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've only
had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
Pete

Peter Stolz

Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> Peter Stolz wrote:
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>> Peter Stolz wrote:
>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>> Peter Stolz wrote:
>>>>>> clay wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you george. I'm using Thunderbird, so I'll have to
>>>>>>>>> figure it out, but there's so much of those two morons and
>>>>>>>>> their pissing match that I can't handle it anymore. The sad
>>>>>>>>> part is that I think both of them can make valuable
>>>>>>>>> contributions to the NG, but neither of them have the
>>>>>>>>> discipline to stop. Very immature on both sides, and the whole
>>>>>>>>> NG pays the price.
>>>>>>>> With Thunderbird you can just right click on the "From:
>>>>>>>> whomever@wherever.com" and choose "Create Filter from Message".
>>>>>>>> Just pick what you want to happen to messages from that source
>>>>>>>> (like delete :-). If the entire thread annoys you cut and paste
>>>>>>>> the thread title into a "New Filter" and choose whatever. That
>>>>>>>> right click on "From:" works wonders for me :-) It keeps the
>>>>>>>> background noise to a minimum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More Thunderbird tricks:
>>>>>>> Close Thunderbird before doing these...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Path to profile. May have to set view hidden folders to see it.
>>>>>>> \Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
>>>>>>> Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\xxxxxx.default\News
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can edit/create filters directly by browsing to your
>>>>>>> profile/news folder and opening rec.autos.makers.jeep+******.dat
>>>>>>> in wordpad.
>>>>>>> Copy an existing filter from `name` to `condition` and paste at
>>>>>>> the end, seasoning to taste.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To make all the existing posts that are filtered go away, delete
>>>>>>> rec.autos.makers.jeep+******.msf.
>>>>>>> It will rebuild when you open TB and all the filtered posts will
>>>>>>> be gone.
>>>>>>> ymmv. use at your own risk. performance not guaranteed. offer not
>>>>>>> valid in all states. etc. etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahhh. Thanks. I'm still trying to figure it out. I just noticed
>>>>>> you guys replied to my post.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>> Hope we helped a bit :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes you did. Now, how did you know I responded to a post of three
>>>> weeks ago? Does TB notify you that somebody responded to a post?
>>>> Right now, I'm just going down the list of threads I marked as
>>>> "watch" and looking to see if anybody added anything.
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Pete
>>> Yup! It just showed up as a new post and of course you weren't in my
>>> "kill file" (message filter in T-bird :-)
>>>
>>
>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>> to the top?
> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space set
> to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out most of
> the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're replies to a
> thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to refer to an old
> post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the way I do it. Most
> people would have the threads of interest to them displayed in full for
> a longer time period.
>

Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see what
works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've only
had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
Pete

clay

Peter Stolz wrote:
>...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>>> to the top?
>> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space
>> set to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out
>> most of the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're
>> replies to a thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to
>> refer to an old post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the
>> way I do it. Most people would have the threads of interest to them
>> displayed in full for a longer time period.
>>
>
> Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see what
> works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've only
> had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
> Pete

I sort: Date, Descending, Unthreaded.
When I hit the group, all the new posts are at the top. I see one I been
reading or want to read, I click on it, click the subject bar, and
scroll up as needed to pick up where I left off. When I'm done, two
clicks on the date bar and I'm back to the top.
When I leave the group, I leave it sorted by date, unthreaded, newest at
top.
If a stale post comes in next time I visit, TB will jump down to it.

clay

Peter Stolz wrote:
>...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>>> to the top?
>> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space
>> set to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out
>> most of the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're
>> replies to a thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to
>> refer to an old post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the
>> way I do it. Most people would have the threads of interest to them
>> displayed in full for a longer time period.
>>
>
> Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see what
> works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've only
> had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
> Pete

I sort: Date, Descending, Unthreaded.
When I hit the group, all the new posts are at the top. I see one I been
reading or want to read, I click on it, click the subject bar, and
scroll up as needed to pick up where I left off. When I'm done, two
clicks on the date bar and I'm back to the top.
When I leave the group, I leave it sorted by date, unthreaded, newest at
top.
If a stale post comes in next time I visit, TB will jump down to it.

clay

Peter Stolz wrote:
>...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>>> to the top?
>> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space
>> set to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out
>> most of the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're
>> replies to a thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to
>> refer to an old post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the
>> way I do it. Most people would have the threads of interest to them
>> displayed in full for a longer time period.
>>
>
> Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see what
> works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've only
> had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
> Pete

I sort: Date, Descending, Unthreaded.
When I hit the group, all the new posts are at the top. I see one I been
reading or want to read, I click on it, click the subject bar, and
scroll up as needed to pick up where I left off. When I'm done, two
clicks on the date bar and I'm back to the top.
When I leave the group, I leave it sorted by date, unthreaded, newest at
top.
If a stale post comes in next time I visit, TB will jump down to it.

clay

Peter Stolz wrote:
>...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>>> to the top?
>> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space
>> set to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out
>> most of the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're
>> replies to a thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to
>> refer to an old post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the
>> way I do it. Most people would have the threads of interest to them
>> displayed in full for a longer time period.
>>
>
> Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see what
> works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've only
> had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
> Pete

I sort: Date, Descending, Unthreaded.
When I hit the group, all the new posts are at the top. I see one I been
reading or want to read, I click on it, click the subject bar, and
scroll up as needed to pick up where I left off. When I'm done, two
clicks on the date bar and I'm back to the top.
When I leave the group, I leave it sorted by date, unthreaded, newest at
top.
If a stale post comes in next time I visit, TB will jump down to it.

Peter Stolz

clay wrote:
> Peter Stolz wrote:
>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>>>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>>>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>>>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>>>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>>>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>>>> to the top?
>>> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space
>>> set to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out
>>> most of the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're
>>> replies to a thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to
>>> refer to an old post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the
>>> way I do it. Most people would have the threads of interest to them
>>> displayed in full for a longer time period.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see
>> what works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've
>> only had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
>> Pete
>
> I sort: Date, Descending, Unthreaded.
> When I hit the group, all the new posts are at the top. I see one I been
> reading or want to read, I click on it, click the subject bar, and
> scroll up as needed to pick up where I left off. When I'm done, two
> clicks on the date bar and I'm back to the top.
> When I leave the group, I leave it sorted by date, unthreaded, newest at
> top.
> If a stale post comes in next time I visit, TB will jump down to it.

Thanks, I'll try that for a while and see if my brains can adjust to
it...watch for smoke.
Pete

Peter Stolz

clay wrote:
> Peter Stolz wrote:
>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>>>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>>>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>>>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>>>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>>>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>>>> to the top?
>>> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space
>>> set to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out
>>> most of the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're
>>> replies to a thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to
>>> refer to an old post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the
>>> way I do it. Most people would have the threads of interest to them
>>> displayed in full for a longer time period.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see
>> what works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've
>> only had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
>> Pete
>
> I sort: Date, Descending, Unthreaded.
> When I hit the group, all the new posts are at the top. I see one I been
> reading or want to read, I click on it, click the subject bar, and
> scroll up as needed to pick up where I left off. When I'm done, two
> clicks on the date bar and I'm back to the top.
> When I leave the group, I leave it sorted by date, unthreaded, newest at
> top.
> If a stale post comes in next time I visit, TB will jump down to it.

Thanks, I'll try that for a while and see if my brains can adjust to
it...watch for smoke.
Pete

Peter Stolz

clay wrote:
> Peter Stolz wrote:
>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, so I have my "view" set to sort by date, descending, threaded.
>>>> But that way, if somebody posts to a thread of a few weeks ago, I
>>>> probably wouldn't see it unless I physically scrolled back and
>>>> expanded that thread. I thread mine so I can look back and see the
>>>> direction of the conversation and who said what. Do you just have
>>>> your's set to sort by date and unthreaded so that all new posts come
>>>> to the top?
>>> To avoid "clutter" I have my Account Settings / Offline & Disk Space
>>> set to delete read messages over 1 day old. Since I've filtered out
>>> most of the trolls new messages are easy to spot even if they're
>>> replies to a thread that's weeks old. If, for some reason, I want to
>>> refer to an old post/thread I just Google the thread. It's just the
>>> way I do it. Most people would have the threads of interest to them
>>> displayed in full for a longer time period.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I'll start messing around with the way I display them and see
>> what works and what I like. I'll also do some exploring in TB. I've
>> only had it for a couple of weeks. thanks again for the help.
>> Pete
>
> I sort: Date, Descending, Unthreaded.
> When I hit the group, all the new posts are at the top. I see one I been
> reading or want to read, I click on it, click the subject bar, and
> scroll up as needed to pick up where I left off. When I'm done, two
> clicks on the date bar and I'm back to the top.
> When I leave the group, I leave it sorted by date, unthreaded, newest at
> top.
> If a stale post comes in next time I visit, TB will jump down to it.

Thanks, I'll try that for a while and see if my brains can adjust to
it...watch for smoke.
Pete