Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

I know that nobody here has ever experienced this but recently (like
for the past 3 months or so) I have this urge to buy a Jeep. Now I am
a fairly sane down to earth guy but this damn thing is like a monkey on
my back now. I spend my days reading wants ads and lurking on
discussion boards. I have been trying to be patient and let my
knowledge build over time before I plunge right in with both feet. But
my patience is wearing thin and I'm starting to realize that I could be
wheeling around this summer if I begin to move now.

Anyway after much consideration I am thinking of looking into a 1998 -
1999 Used TJ. I kind of landed here by process of elimination.
Originally I wanted to get an old beater with a carb and make it a bit
of a project vehicle for me so was thinking maybe an old CJ7 or
something. Then a friend of mine started talking up her YJ which still
had a carb and so would fit the project vehicle criteria and she also
was telling me about the old CJ's having a little less wheelbase and so
not being quite as sturdy. Then when I read about TJs and the coils
springs and some of the other safety/comfort improvements they have
made, I kind of moved up in my thinking. I know I won't be able to do
too much of the engine work myself but then again maybe I'll surprise
myself and be able to do more then I think. I'm sure I can handle a
lot of the non engine mods anyway, which will serve the purpose of
keepin my hands dirty. I will definately take the Jeep offroad but
nothing too serious, just some mud and hills.

Anyway I guess my questions are specifically around 98&99 TJ's. Is
there anything that I should look out for on them. I read previously
about the exhaust manifold cracks and the steering column wiring
harness problems, but just wanted to know if there were any other known
bugs. Also are there specific features to get or avoid? I read
something about the rear ends and gearing, how can I tell if I have the
better rear end & gears? Also I am hoping to only spend in the area of
$5,000 (initially) so I know that I will need to be very patient or
else get a very high mileage model. Is there anything inherently wrong
with high mileage? Could it indicate that it has been well taken care
of if it has 150K+ miles on it?

I would be open to any advice or opinions and I appreciate y'all lettin
me lurk on here.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

The 6 cylinder is a good idea, the transmission choice is a personal
preference. The 4 liter I-6 can last 200-300k before major engine work is
needed if you keep the fluids and filters changed regularly.

I agree with your choice of a newer Jeep, the older ones need regular
wrenching and there is always the body cancer issue (rust) .

The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you want
the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.

Welcome to the dark side.....


"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154479068.071609.227150@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
> A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
> part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
> sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
> snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

The 6 cylinder is a good idea, the transmission choice is a personal
preference. The 4 liter I-6 can last 200-300k before major engine work is
needed if you keep the fluids and filters changed regularly.

I agree with your choice of a newer Jeep, the older ones need regular
wrenching and there is always the body cancer issue (rust) .

The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you want
the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.

Welcome to the dark side.....


"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154479068.071609.227150@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
> A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
> part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
> sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
> snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

The 6 cylinder is a good idea, the transmission choice is a personal
preference. The 4 liter I-6 can last 200-300k before major engine work is
needed if you keep the fluids and filters changed regularly.

I agree with your choice of a newer Jeep, the older ones need regular
wrenching and there is always the body cancer issue (rust) .

The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you want
the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.

Welcome to the dark side.....


"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154479068.071609.227150@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
> A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
> part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
> sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
> snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

The 6 cylinder is a good idea, the transmission choice is a personal
preference. The 4 liter I-6 can last 200-300k before major engine work is
needed if you keep the fluids and filters changed regularly.

I agree with your choice of a newer Jeep, the older ones need regular
wrenching and there is always the body cancer issue (rust) .

The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you want
the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.

Welcome to the dark side.....


"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154479068.071609.227150@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
> A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
> part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
> sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
> snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote
..
>
> Welcome to the dark side.....
>


And here I thought you just flicked the switch on me again...

:-)

K.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote
..
>
> Welcome to the dark side.....
>


And here I thought you just flicked the switch on me again...

:-)

K.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote
..
>
> Welcome to the dark side.....
>


And here I thought you just flicked the switch on me again...

:-)

K.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote
..
>
> Welcome to the dark side.....
>


And here I thought you just flicked the switch on me again...

:-)

K.

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154479068.071609.227150@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
> A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
> part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
> sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
> snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.

I am on my 4th Jeep.
In the past I have owned two CJ5s and now am the proud owner of an 06 TJ.

As far as the techincal stuff, I cannot tell you much but my experience so
far is this:
Get one that is as new as you can afford.

The older ones (and some of the guys in here know all the models and their
specific nuances) are in fact more labor inten$ive.
Some will say that the TJ is a Tigger Jeep, because of the coils. I LIKE the
coils. I can go for long distances and it doesn't leave me crippled for two
days when I get home.

My thoughts on one that is high mileage are:
Get the lowest miles you can get. No matter how well maintained it may be it
is still as old as it's odometer and stuff is wearing out a little more with
each and every mile it is driven. Anything that moves, will be wearing out
If it's been out playing in the boonies, (as it should be) then they are
worn a little more.

If you crawl under it, you will be able to see some evidence of off road
use. Scratches on belly pans, mud jambed up in places where you cant see it
from above, you'll see it. One that has been babied won't have many battle
scars.

Good luck to you! Like Billy Ray said... welcome.
Oh.. and bring a flashlight.

Kate

>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154479068.071609.227150@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
> A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
> part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
> sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
> snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.

I am on my 4th Jeep.
In the past I have owned two CJ5s and now am the proud owner of an 06 TJ.

As far as the techincal stuff, I cannot tell you much but my experience so
far is this:
Get one that is as new as you can afford.

The older ones (and some of the guys in here know all the models and their
specific nuances) are in fact more labor inten$ive.
Some will say that the TJ is a Tigger Jeep, because of the coils. I LIKE the
coils. I can go for long distances and it doesn't leave me crippled for two
days when I get home.

My thoughts on one that is high mileage are:
Get the lowest miles you can get. No matter how well maintained it may be it
is still as old as it's odometer and stuff is wearing out a little more with
each and every mile it is driven. Anything that moves, will be wearing out
If it's been out playing in the boonies, (as it should be) then they are
worn a little more.

If you crawl under it, you will be able to see some evidence of off road
use. Scratches on belly pans, mud jambed up in places where you cant see it
from above, you'll see it. One that has been babied won't have many battle
scars.

Good luck to you! Like Billy Ray said... welcome.
Oh.. and bring a flashlight.

Kate

>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154479068.071609.227150@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
> A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
> part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
> sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
> snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.

I am on my 4th Jeep.
In the past I have owned two CJ5s and now am the proud owner of an 06 TJ.

As far as the techincal stuff, I cannot tell you much but my experience so
far is this:
Get one that is as new as you can afford.

The older ones (and some of the guys in here know all the models and their
specific nuances) are in fact more labor inten$ive.
Some will say that the TJ is a Tigger Jeep, because of the coils. I LIKE the
coils. I can go for long distances and it doesn't leave me crippled for two
days when I get home.

My thoughts on one that is high mileage are:
Get the lowest miles you can get. No matter how well maintained it may be it
is still as old as it's odometer and stuff is wearing out a little more with
each and every mile it is driven. Anything that moves, will be wearing out
If it's been out playing in the boonies, (as it should be) then they are
worn a little more.

If you crawl under it, you will be able to see some evidence of off road
use. Scratches on belly pans, mud jambed up in places where you cant see it
from above, you'll see it. One that has been babied won't have many battle
scars.

Good luck to you! Like Billy Ray said... welcome.
Oh.. and bring a flashlight.

Kate

>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154479068.071609.227150@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Wanted to add that I have decided to get a 6cyl, 5spd most likely with
> A/C probably because it's 100 degrees here today in NJ and also because
> part of the selling of this idea is that my wife can drive this to work
> sometimes. I would also be looking to put a small plow on it for the
> snow, just to do my driveway and a few of the neighbors.

I am on my 4th Jeep.
In the past I have owned two CJ5s and now am the proud owner of an 06 TJ.

As far as the techincal stuff, I cannot tell you much but my experience so
far is this:
Get one that is as new as you can afford.

The older ones (and some of the guys in here know all the models and their
specific nuances) are in fact more labor inten$ive.
Some will say that the TJ is a Tigger Jeep, because of the coils. I LIKE the
coils. I can go for long distances and it doesn't leave me crippled for two
days when I get home.

My thoughts on one that is high mileage are:
Get the lowest miles you can get. No matter how well maintained it may be it
is still as old as it's odometer and stuff is wearing out a little more with
each and every mile it is driven. Anything that moves, will be wearing out
If it's been out playing in the boonies, (as it should be) then they are
worn a little more.

If you crawl under it, you will be able to see some evidence of off road
use. Scratches on belly pans, mud jambed up in places where you cant see it
from above, you'll see it. One that has been babied won't have many battle
scars.

Good luck to you! Like Billy Ray said... welcome.
Oh.. and bring a flashlight.

Kate

>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.


> The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
> gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you want
> the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.

When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
is it on a plate somewhere?

> Welcome to the dark side.....

Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.


> The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
> gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you want
> the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.

When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
is it on a plate somewhere?

> Welcome to the dark side.....

Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.


> The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
> gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you want
> the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.

When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
is it on a plate somewhere?

> Welcome to the dark side.....

Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.


> The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
> gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you want
> the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.

When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
is it on a plate somewhere?

> Welcome to the dark side.....

Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Kate,

Thanks for the advice. What you say kind of echos what my thinking has
been so I fee like I'm on the right track at least.

Hope you are enjoying you 06'

Kev

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Kate,

Thanks for the advice. What you say kind of echos what my thinking has
been so I fee like I'm on the right track at least.

Hope you are enjoying you 06'

Kev

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Kate,

Thanks for the advice. What you say kind of echos what my thinking has
been so I fee like I'm on the right track at least.

Hope you are enjoying you 06'

Kev

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Kate,

Thanks for the advice. What you say kind of echos what my thinking has
been so I fee like I'm on the right track at least.

Hope you are enjoying you 06'

Kev

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Kevtrane wrote:

> Also are there specific features to get or avoid? I read
> something about the rear ends and gearing, how can I tell if I have the
> better rear end & gears?


After three years of driving a Wrangler "X" with the Dana 30 (3.07
ratio), last month I upgraded to a 2006 Sport with the Dana 44 (3.73).
What a difference -- I'd NEVER go back to what I had before! I was
always downshifting and wondering how all those other Jeeps went up the
hills so easily. Now I know.

I first looked at upgrading to the Rubicon, but in the end opted for a
Sport with limited-slip. I don't do much rock crawling -- mostly forest
trails, so I concluded that the Rubicon with its lockers and added
weight (gas prices!) would be overkill. To me, the Sport seems to offer
the best balance for someone who uses a TJ as the daily driver, but also
hits some fairly rugged trails and requires good winter performance.

Mine was the last of the 2006 "Golden Eagle" editions available at my
local dealers. That screaming chicken gets A LOT of attention and nice
comments. I'd guess that there are far fewer TJ Golden Eagles around
than Rubicons even, and I'm enjoying it. Mostly I wanted to get one of
the last of the late, great I-6's before it goes out of production, and
hopefully keep it 'til I die, heh.

Mike


--
(for email address, change 'XX' to 'bb')

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Kevtrane wrote:

> Also are there specific features to get or avoid? I read
> something about the rear ends and gearing, how can I tell if I have the
> better rear end & gears?


After three years of driving a Wrangler "X" with the Dana 30 (3.07
ratio), last month I upgraded to a 2006 Sport with the Dana 44 (3.73).
What a difference -- I'd NEVER go back to what I had before! I was
always downshifting and wondering how all those other Jeeps went up the
hills so easily. Now I know.

I first looked at upgrading to the Rubicon, but in the end opted for a
Sport with limited-slip. I don't do much rock crawling -- mostly forest
trails, so I concluded that the Rubicon with its lockers and added
weight (gas prices!) would be overkill. To me, the Sport seems to offer
the best balance for someone who uses a TJ as the daily driver, but also
hits some fairly rugged trails and requires good winter performance.

Mine was the last of the 2006 "Golden Eagle" editions available at my
local dealers. That screaming chicken gets A LOT of attention and nice
comments. I'd guess that there are far fewer TJ Golden Eagles around
than Rubicons even, and I'm enjoying it. Mostly I wanted to get one of
the last of the late, great I-6's before it goes out of production, and
hopefully keep it 'til I die, heh.

Mike


--
(for email address, change 'XX' to 'bb')

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Kevtrane wrote:

> Also are there specific features to get or avoid? I read
> something about the rear ends and gearing, how can I tell if I have the
> better rear end & gears?


After three years of driving a Wrangler "X" with the Dana 30 (3.07
ratio), last month I upgraded to a 2006 Sport with the Dana 44 (3.73).
What a difference -- I'd NEVER go back to what I had before! I was
always downshifting and wondering how all those other Jeeps went up the
hills so easily. Now I know.

I first looked at upgrading to the Rubicon, but in the end opted for a
Sport with limited-slip. I don't do much rock crawling -- mostly forest
trails, so I concluded that the Rubicon with its lockers and added
weight (gas prices!) would be overkill. To me, the Sport seems to offer
the best balance for someone who uses a TJ as the daily driver, but also
hits some fairly rugged trails and requires good winter performance.

Mine was the last of the 2006 "Golden Eagle" editions available at my
local dealers. That screaming chicken gets A LOT of attention and nice
comments. I'd guess that there are far fewer TJ Golden Eagles around
than Rubicons even, and I'm enjoying it. Mostly I wanted to get one of
the last of the late, great I-6's before it goes out of production, and
hopefully keep it 'til I die, heh.

Mike


--
(for email address, change 'XX' to 'bb')

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Kevtrane wrote:

> Also are there specific features to get or avoid? I read
> something about the rear ends and gearing, how can I tell if I have the
> better rear end & gears?


After three years of driving a Wrangler "X" with the Dana 30 (3.07
ratio), last month I upgraded to a 2006 Sport with the Dana 44 (3.73).
What a difference -- I'd NEVER go back to what I had before! I was
always downshifting and wondering how all those other Jeeps went up the
hills so easily. Now I know.

I first looked at upgrading to the Rubicon, but in the end opted for a
Sport with limited-slip. I don't do much rock crawling -- mostly forest
trails, so I concluded that the Rubicon with its lockers and added
weight (gas prices!) would be overkill. To me, the Sport seems to offer
the best balance for someone who uses a TJ as the daily driver, but also
hits some fairly rugged trails and requires good winter performance.

Mine was the last of the 2006 "Golden Eagle" editions available at my
local dealers. That screaming chicken gets A LOT of attention and nice
comments. I'd guess that there are far fewer TJ Golden Eagles around
than Rubicons even, and I'm enjoying it. Mostly I wanted to get one of
the last of the late, great I-6's before it goes out of production, and
hopefully keep it 'til I die, heh.

Mike


--
(for email address, change 'XX' to 'bb')

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

There is a small plate under one of the pumpkin cover bolts, that says which
ratio it is.

Earle

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154524356.368005.83560@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.
>
>
> > The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
> > gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you
want
> > the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.
>
> When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
> and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
> is it on a plate somewhere?
>
> > Welcome to the dark side.....
>
> Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

There is a small plate under one of the pumpkin cover bolts, that says which
ratio it is.

Earle

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154524356.368005.83560@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.
>
>
> > The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
> > gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you
want
> > the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.
>
> When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
> and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
> is it on a plate somewhere?
>
> > Welcome to the dark side.....
>
> Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

There is a small plate under one of the pumpkin cover bolts, that says which
ratio it is.

Earle

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154524356.368005.83560@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.
>
>
> > The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
> > gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you
want
> > the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.
>
> When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
> and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
> is it on a plate somewhere?
>
> > Welcome to the dark side.....
>
> Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

There is a small plate under one of the pumpkin cover bolts, that says which
ratio it is.

Earle

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154524356.368005.83560@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.
>
>
> > The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for strength,
> > gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you
want
> > the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end power.
>
> When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
> and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
> is it on a plate somewhere?
>
> > Welcome to the dark side.....
>
> Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Axle ID

http://www.nationwideparts.com/differentials.htm


"Earle Horton" <Earle-NOSPAM-Horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44d0ad48$0$3499$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> There is a small plate under one of the pumpkin cover bolts, that says
> which
> ratio it is.
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1154524356.368005.83560@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>> Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.
>>
>>
>> > The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for
>> > strength,
>> > gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you
> want
>> > the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end
>> > power.
>>
>> When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
>> and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
>> is it on a plate somewhere?
>>
>> > Welcome to the dark side.....
>>
>> Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning
>>
>
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Axle ID

http://www.nationwideparts.com/differentials.htm


"Earle Horton" <Earle-NOSPAM-Horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44d0ad48$0$3499$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> There is a small plate under one of the pumpkin cover bolts, that says
> which
> ratio it is.
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1154524356.368005.83560@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>> Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.
>>
>>
>> > The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for
>> > strength,
>> > gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you
> want
>> > the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end
>> > power.
>>
>> When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
>> and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
>> is it on a plate somewhere?
>>
>> > Welcome to the dark side.....
>>
>> Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning
>>
>
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Axle ID

http://www.nationwideparts.com/differentials.htm


"Earle Horton" <Earle-NOSPAM-Horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44d0ad48$0$3499$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> There is a small plate under one of the pumpkin cover bolts, that says
> which
> ratio it is.
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1154524356.368005.83560@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>> Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.
>>
>>
>> > The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for
>> > strength,
>> > gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you
> want
>> > the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end
>> > power.
>>
>> When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
>> and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
>> is it on a plate somewhere?
>>
>> > Welcome to the dark side.....
>>
>> Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning
>>
>
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

Axle ID

http://www.nationwideparts.com/differentials.htm


"Earle Horton" <Earle-NOSPAM-Horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44d0ad48$0$3499$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> There is a small plate under one of the pumpkin cover bolts, that says
> which
> ratio it is.
>
> Earle
>
> "Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1154524356.368005.83560@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>> Bill thanks for your quick reply I appreciate your help.
>>
>>
>> > The TJs with the Dana 44 rear end are the preferred models for
>> > strength,
>> > gearing depends on what you intend to do..... with plowing in mind you
> want
>> > the numerically highest ratio you can find for that extra low end
>> > power.
>>
>> When I look at a Jeep how can I tell the difference between the Dana 44
>> and the less preferred ones. Also how can I tell what the gearing is,
>> is it on a plate somewhere?
>>
>> > Welcome to the dark side.....
>>
>> Thanks, I'm sure this is an ominous warning
>>
>
>

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154524576.071249.12010@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> Kate,
>
> Thanks for the advice. What you say kind of echos what my thinking has
> been so I fee like I'm on the right track at least.
>
> Hope you are enjoying you 06'
>
> Kev

Well, remember, this is only MY opinion... your mileage may vary.
As for my 06...
There aren't words to tell how crazy I am about this Jeep. It's better than
Burt Reynolds, Sean Connery, Robert Redford, Sam Elliot and Tom Sellick all
rolled into one. Ok, well maybe not THAT good, but if you left out only one
of them it would be a close match LOL.

Last summer I traded in my 98 Cobra convertible and bought an 06 Liberty to
haul my grandson in. He (with his momma) moved back across the country after
just three months and I was stuck in an SUV.
After 6 months I couldn't stand it another minute, and even though it was a
very nice rig, I traded it in. I Hated having a hard top more than anything
and I really wanted a Wrangler. I took a helluva hit $$$ but here I am and
all smiles. I will be in debit for years making payments so high I shudder
at the thought BUT - I love my Rubicon, and I would not trade it back for
anything else - period. I don't regret it a bit.

I'm like you in that I don't do any really harsh off roading, some hills,
and I definitely like to stomp in mud puddles. I got him stuck the first
time just last week in fact.
Sittin on his belly pans, all four wheels spinnin. We had to walk out to get
the truck. http://www.selby.ws/images/Dangit.jpg

I hope that you find something that really makes you happy, having the
obsession and no resolve will make you crazy after awhile.

When I had the Liberty I started collecting little white Rubicon diecasts..
I laughed later telling my husband it was easier to buy a Jeep to match the
collectibles than it was the other way around!
It must have been my subconscious nagging at me all along.

Kate

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154524576.071249.12010@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> Kate,
>
> Thanks for the advice. What you say kind of echos what my thinking has
> been so I fee like I'm on the right track at least.
>
> Hope you are enjoying you 06'
>
> Kev

Well, remember, this is only MY opinion... your mileage may vary.
As for my 06...
There aren't words to tell how crazy I am about this Jeep. It's better than
Burt Reynolds, Sean Connery, Robert Redford, Sam Elliot and Tom Sellick all
rolled into one. Ok, well maybe not THAT good, but if you left out only one
of them it would be a close match LOL.

Last summer I traded in my 98 Cobra convertible and bought an 06 Liberty to
haul my grandson in. He (with his momma) moved back across the country after
just three months and I was stuck in an SUV.
After 6 months I couldn't stand it another minute, and even though it was a
very nice rig, I traded it in. I Hated having a hard top more than anything
and I really wanted a Wrangler. I took a helluva hit $$$ but here I am and
all smiles. I will be in debit for years making payments so high I shudder
at the thought BUT - I love my Rubicon, and I would not trade it back for
anything else - period. I don't regret it a bit.

I'm like you in that I don't do any really harsh off roading, some hills,
and I definitely like to stomp in mud puddles. I got him stuck the first
time just last week in fact.
Sittin on his belly pans, all four wheels spinnin. We had to walk out to get
the truck. http://www.selby.ws/images/Dangit.jpg

I hope that you find something that really makes you happy, having the
obsession and no resolve will make you crazy after awhile.

When I had the Liberty I started collecting little white Rubicon diecasts..
I laughed later telling my husband it was easier to buy a Jeep to match the
collectibles than it was the other way around!
It must have been my subconscious nagging at me all along.

Kate

Re: Newbie Questions - Getting ready to take the plunge
 

"Kevtrane" <kevtrane@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1154524576.071249.12010@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> Kate,
>
> Thanks for the advice. What you say kind of echos what my thinking has
> been so I fee like I'm on the right track at least.
>
> Hope you are enjoying you 06'
>
> Kev

Well, remember, this is only MY opinion... your mileage may vary.
As for my 06...
There aren't words to tell how crazy I am about this Jeep. It's better than
Burt Reynolds, Sean Connery, Robert Redford, Sam Elliot and Tom Sellick all
rolled into one. Ok, well maybe not THAT good, but if you left out only one
of them it would be a close match LOL.

Last summer I traded in my 98 Cobra convertible and bought an 06 Liberty to
haul my grandson in. He (with his momma) moved back across the country after
just three months and I was stuck in an SUV.
After 6 months I couldn't stand it another minute, and even though it was a
very nice rig, I traded it in. I Hated having a hard top more than anything
and I really wanted a Wrangler. I took a helluva hit $$$ but here I am and
all smiles. I will be in debit for years making payments so high I shudder
at the thought BUT - I love my Rubicon, and I would not trade it back for
anything else - period. I don't regret it a bit.

I'm like you in that I don't do any really harsh off roading, some hills,
and I definitely like to stomp in mud puddles. I got him stuck the first
time just last week in fact.
Sittin on his belly pans, all four wheels spinnin. We had to walk out to get
the truck. http://www.selby.ws/images/Dangit.jpg

I hope that you find something that really makes you happy, having the
obsession and no resolve will make you crazy after awhile.

When I had the Liberty I started collecting little white Rubicon diecasts..
I laughed later telling my husband it was easier to buy a Jeep to match the
collectibles than it was the other way around!
It must have been my subconscious nagging at me all along.

Kate