newbie question
02-16-2005, 08:24 PM
#1
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newbie question
I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up that
ikea crap. LOL
The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and 270.
I am in law enforcement.
Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to make
it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I dont
know if this is really true.
I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to fix
anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
Thanks for any information.
02-16-2005, 08:46 PM
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Re: newbie question
flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes.
That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
Might want to take a trip to Ikea and measure some of the boxes that stuff comes in. You might find the liberty doesn't have enough
inside space. Heck, I drive a ZJ and it's pressed to carry anything longer than 8' squeezed between the tailgate and front window.
Just remember that 4wd will get you going faster but every car stops the same. 4wd also has some interesting tendencies on slippery
surfaces. If you have access to a driving range skid pan I'd suggest learning the limits there.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes.
That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
Might want to take a trip to Ikea and measure some of the boxes that stuff comes in. You might find the liberty doesn't have enough
inside space. Heck, I drive a ZJ and it's pressed to carry anything longer than 8' squeezed between the tailgate and front window.
Just remember that 4wd will get you going faster but every car stops the same. 4wd also has some interesting tendencies on slippery
surfaces. If you have access to a driving range skid pan I'd suggest learning the limits there.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
02-16-2005, 08:46 PM
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Re: newbie question
flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes.
That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
Might want to take a trip to Ikea and measure some of the boxes that stuff comes in. You might find the liberty doesn't have enough
inside space. Heck, I drive a ZJ and it's pressed to carry anything longer than 8' squeezed between the tailgate and front window.
Just remember that 4wd will get you going faster but every car stops the same. 4wd also has some interesting tendencies on slippery
surfaces. If you have access to a driving range skid pan I'd suggest learning the limits there.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes.
That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
Might want to take a trip to Ikea and measure some of the boxes that stuff comes in. You might find the liberty doesn't have enough
inside space. Heck, I drive a ZJ and it's pressed to carry anything longer than 8' squeezed between the tailgate and front window.
Just remember that 4wd will get you going faster but every car stops the same. 4wd also has some interesting tendencies on slippery
surfaces. If you have access to a driving range skid pan I'd suggest learning the limits there.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
02-16-2005, 08:46 PM
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Re: newbie question
flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes.
That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
Might want to take a trip to Ikea and measure some of the boxes that stuff comes in. You might find the liberty doesn't have enough
inside space. Heck, I drive a ZJ and it's pressed to carry anything longer than 8' squeezed between the tailgate and front window.
Just remember that 4wd will get you going faster but every car stops the same. 4wd also has some interesting tendencies on slippery
surfaces. If you have access to a driving range skid pan I'd suggest learning the limits there.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes.
That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
Might want to take a trip to Ikea and measure some of the boxes that stuff comes in. You might find the liberty doesn't have enough
inside space. Heck, I drive a ZJ and it's pressed to carry anything longer than 8' squeezed between the tailgate and front window.
Just remember that 4wd will get you going faster but every car stops the same. 4wd also has some interesting tendencies on slippery
surfaces. If you have access to a driving range skid pan I'd suggest learning the limits there.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
02-16-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: newbie question
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:23 -0600, "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>>flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
>>> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
>>> question, but here goes.
>>
>>That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hey! I resemble that remark.
>>Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
>>190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
>>somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
A very, very good suggestion. Also, trade off with your wife and make sure that she
is also comfortable with driving it. My folks discovered with their new car (not a
Jeep) that the passenger and drivers seats are different inside, although they look
the same. Passenger seat is no where near as comfortable.
>>flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
>>> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
>>> question, but here goes.
>>
>>That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hey! I resemble that remark.
>>Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
>>190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
>>somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
A very, very good suggestion. Also, trade off with your wife and make sure that she
is also comfortable with driving it. My folks discovered with their new car (not a
Jeep) that the passenger and drivers seats are different inside, although they look
the same. Passenger seat is no where near as comfortable.
02-16-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: newbie question
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:23 -0600, "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>>flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
>>> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
>>> question, but here goes.
>>
>>That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hey! I resemble that remark.
>>Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
>>190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
>>somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
A very, very good suggestion. Also, trade off with your wife and make sure that she
is also comfortable with driving it. My folks discovered with their new car (not a
Jeep) that the passenger and drivers seats are different inside, although they look
the same. Passenger seat is no where near as comfortable.
>>flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
>>> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
>>> question, but here goes.
>>
>>That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hey! I resemble that remark.
>>Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
>>190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
>>somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
A very, very good suggestion. Also, trade off with your wife and make sure that she
is also comfortable with driving it. My folks discovered with their new car (not a
Jeep) that the passenger and drivers seats are different inside, although they look
the same. Passenger seat is no where near as comfortable.
02-16-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: newbie question
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:46:23 -0600, "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
>>flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
>>> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
>>> question, but here goes.
>>
>>That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hey! I resemble that remark.
>>Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
>>190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
>>somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
A very, very good suggestion. Also, trade off with your wife and make sure that she
is also comfortable with driving it. My folks discovered with their new car (not a
Jeep) that the passenger and drivers seats are different inside, although they look
the same. Passenger seat is no where near as comfortable.
>>flatfoot2 did pass the time by typing:
>>> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
>>> question, but here goes.
>>
>>That's ok.. this group is fairly disturbed anyway. :)
Hey! I resemble that remark.
>>Hard to say. I've had a liberty as a rental and found it to be acceptable but a bit on the small side even though I'm only 6'3"
>>190, give or take the donuts. My suggestion is before you buy one, rent it from enterprise or such and drive it for weekend trip
>>somewhere. Get a good solid 2-3 hours behind the wheel.
A very, very good suggestion. Also, trade off with your wife and make sure that she
is also comfortable with driving it. My folks discovered with their new car (not a
Jeep) that the passenger and drivers seats are different inside, although they look
the same. Passenger seat is no where near as comfortable.
02-16-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: newbie question
Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"flatfoot2" wrote in message ...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"flatfoot2" wrote in message ...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
02-16-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: newbie question
Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"flatfoot2" wrote in message ...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"flatfoot2" wrote in message ...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
02-16-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: newbie question
Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"flatfoot2" wrote in message ...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"flatfoot2" wrote in message ...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
