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Re: new wrangler - ug
billy ray wrote:
> This is paragraph two from that new report: > > "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two doors. > The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first four-door > model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline (cylinders all in a > row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel drive instead of the > standard four-wheel-drive setup." > > You could also take this to mean that in future years '07+ that both 2 and 4 > door models are slated for production. > > > <dvitous@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1158943161.704127.95400@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: >>> I don't believe it, your paper is wrong or you misunderstood what they >>> said. >>> >>> O7 is the first year for the 4 door Wrangler, but there is no way they >>> are getting rid of the "iconic" 2 door. >>> >> Granted... I am the product of the public school system... but >> regardless of what part of the world you're from... (perhaps with the >> exception of some certain parts of some southern states...) it's pretty >> hard to misinterpret: >> >> "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two >> doors." >> >> It goes on to say >> >> "The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first >> four-door model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline >> (cylinders all in a row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel >> drive instead of the standard four-wheel-drive setup." >> >> Full article is here: >> >> http://www.suntimes.com/output/auto/car-news-car11.html >> >> Could be wrong? Sure. But reliable auto writers typically dance >> around "absolutes" when talking rumor - as there's always plenty of >> rumor to go around. It runs rampant in the motorcycle press. But '07 >> is a ways away, and decisions could change. Perhaps its an >> announcement to gauge backlash? >> >> Dropping a popular, well-selling vehicle with a strong fan base doesn't >> make sense to me either. >> >> - Dan - >> > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four door models will be offered." Jeff DeWitt |
Re: new wrangler - ug
billy ray wrote:
> This is paragraph two from that new report: > > "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two doors. > The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first four-door > model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline (cylinders all in a > row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel drive instead of the > standard four-wheel-drive setup." > > You could also take this to mean that in future years '07+ that both 2 and 4 > door models are slated for production. > > > <dvitous@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1158943161.704127.95400@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: >>> I don't believe it, your paper is wrong or you misunderstood what they >>> said. >>> >>> O7 is the first year for the 4 door Wrangler, but there is no way they >>> are getting rid of the "iconic" 2 door. >>> >> Granted... I am the product of the public school system... but >> regardless of what part of the world you're from... (perhaps with the >> exception of some certain parts of some southern states...) it's pretty >> hard to misinterpret: >> >> "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two >> doors." >> >> It goes on to say >> >> "The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first >> four-door model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline >> (cylinders all in a row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel >> drive instead of the standard four-wheel-drive setup." >> >> Full article is here: >> >> http://www.suntimes.com/output/auto/car-news-car11.html >> >> Could be wrong? Sure. But reliable auto writers typically dance >> around "absolutes" when talking rumor - as there's always plenty of >> rumor to go around. It runs rampant in the motorcycle press. But '07 >> is a ways away, and decisions could change. Perhaps its an >> announcement to gauge backlash? >> >> Dropping a popular, well-selling vehicle with a strong fan base doesn't >> make sense to me either. >> >> - Dan - >> > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four door models will be offered." Jeff DeWitt |
Re: new wrangler - ug
billy ray wrote:
> This is paragraph two from that new report: > > "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two doors. > The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first four-door > model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline (cylinders all in a > row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel drive instead of the > standard four-wheel-drive setup." > > You could also take this to mean that in future years '07+ that both 2 and 4 > door models are slated for production. > > > <dvitous@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1158943161.704127.95400@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: >>> I don't believe it, your paper is wrong or you misunderstood what they >>> said. >>> >>> O7 is the first year for the 4 door Wrangler, but there is no way they >>> are getting rid of the "iconic" 2 door. >>> >> Granted... I am the product of the public school system... but >> regardless of what part of the world you're from... (perhaps with the >> exception of some certain parts of some southern states...) it's pretty >> hard to misinterpret: >> >> "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two >> doors." >> >> It goes on to say >> >> "The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first >> four-door model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline >> (cylinders all in a row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel >> drive instead of the standard four-wheel-drive setup." >> >> Full article is here: >> >> http://www.suntimes.com/output/auto/car-news-car11.html >> >> Could be wrong? Sure. But reliable auto writers typically dance >> around "absolutes" when talking rumor - as there's always plenty of >> rumor to go around. It runs rampant in the motorcycle press. But '07 >> is a ways away, and decisions could change. Perhaps its an >> announcement to gauge backlash? >> >> Dropping a popular, well-selling vehicle with a strong fan base doesn't >> make sense to me either. >> >> - Dan - >> > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four door models will be offered." Jeff DeWitt |
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The writer is from Chicago, if he went to the local schools he is lucky to be able to read and write at all... > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. > > What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last > SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four > door models will be offered." > > Jeff DeWitt |
Re: new wrangler - ug
The writer is from Chicago, if he went to the local schools he is lucky to be able to read and write at all... > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. > > What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last > SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four > door models will be offered." > > Jeff DeWitt |
Re: new wrangler - ug
The writer is from Chicago, if he went to the local schools he is lucky to be able to read and write at all... > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. > > What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last > SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four > door models will be offered." > > Jeff DeWitt |
Re: new wrangler - ug
When the 2001 model year was done, Jeep Cherokee production was ended
at Toledo South Assembly Plant . That part of the old Willys-Overland plant was torn down. When the 2006 Wrangler model year was over, the rest of the plant was closed and the rest of the building slated for teardown. The eliimination of the in-line 6 will end its production at the old AMC Kenosha Engine Plant. I do not know what product is left in Kenosha. The Liberty and new 4 door Wrangler are assembled in Toledo North Assembly Palnt. This is visible north of I-75 near the intersection with I-280. This is famous for having the body-in-whie and paint departments outsourced. The Grand Cherokee is assembled in the Jefferson North Assembly Plant, the only auto assembly plant in Detoit. |
Re: new wrangler - ug
When the 2001 model year was done, Jeep Cherokee production was ended
at Toledo South Assembly Plant . That part of the old Willys-Overland plant was torn down. When the 2006 Wrangler model year was over, the rest of the plant was closed and the rest of the building slated for teardown. The eliimination of the in-line 6 will end its production at the old AMC Kenosha Engine Plant. I do not know what product is left in Kenosha. The Liberty and new 4 door Wrangler are assembled in Toledo North Assembly Palnt. This is visible north of I-75 near the intersection with I-280. This is famous for having the body-in-whie and paint departments outsourced. The Grand Cherokee is assembled in the Jefferson North Assembly Plant, the only auto assembly plant in Detoit. |
Re: new wrangler - ug
When the 2001 model year was done, Jeep Cherokee production was ended
at Toledo South Assembly Plant . That part of the old Willys-Overland plant was torn down. When the 2006 Wrangler model year was over, the rest of the plant was closed and the rest of the building slated for teardown. The eliimination of the in-line 6 will end its production at the old AMC Kenosha Engine Plant. I do not know what product is left in Kenosha. The Liberty and new 4 door Wrangler are assembled in Toledo North Assembly Palnt. This is visible north of I-75 near the intersection with I-280. This is famous for having the body-in-whie and paint departments outsourced. The Grand Cherokee is assembled in the Jefferson North Assembly Plant, the only auto assembly plant in Detoit. |
3.7 liter V6
I worked for a couple of years at the old Chrysler Mound Road Engine
plant, now razed. The 318 V8, 3.9L V6, and cast iron and cast aluminum V10 engines were made at MRE. The V10 assembly has moved to the Conner Avenue Viper Plant. In some sort of political deal, Chrysler Mack Avenue Engine Plants ! and 2 were built on the site of a former stamping plant in Detroit. Mack 1 which builds the 4.7L V8, the replacment for the 318 went into production in 2001. Mack 2 builds the 3.7L V6, the replacment for the 3.9L V6 and 4.0L I6, and went on-line at the end of 2002. Indianapolis Foundry is now mostly torn down. I believe engine blocks are being imported. Chrysler seems to be getting rid of legacy plants with "difficult" UAW locals. |
3.7 liter V6
I worked for a couple of years at the old Chrysler Mound Road Engine
plant, now razed. The 318 V8, 3.9L V6, and cast iron and cast aluminum V10 engines were made at MRE. The V10 assembly has moved to the Conner Avenue Viper Plant. In some sort of political deal, Chrysler Mack Avenue Engine Plants ! and 2 were built on the site of a former stamping plant in Detroit. Mack 1 which builds the 4.7L V8, the replacment for the 318 went into production in 2001. Mack 2 builds the 3.7L V6, the replacment for the 3.9L V6 and 4.0L I6, and went on-line at the end of 2002. Indianapolis Foundry is now mostly torn down. I believe engine blocks are being imported. Chrysler seems to be getting rid of legacy plants with "difficult" UAW locals. |
3.7 liter V6
I worked for a couple of years at the old Chrysler Mound Road Engine
plant, now razed. The 318 V8, 3.9L V6, and cast iron and cast aluminum V10 engines were made at MRE. The V10 assembly has moved to the Conner Avenue Viper Plant. In some sort of political deal, Chrysler Mack Avenue Engine Plants ! and 2 were built on the site of a former stamping plant in Detroit. Mack 1 which builds the 4.7L V8, the replacment for the 318 went into production in 2001. Mack 2 builds the 3.7L V6, the replacment for the 3.9L V6 and 4.0L I6, and went on-line at the end of 2002. Indianapolis Foundry is now mostly torn down. I believe engine blocks are being imported. Chrysler seems to be getting rid of legacy plants with "difficult" UAW locals. |
Re: new wrangler - ug
Last time I was in Kenosha the AMC final assembly plant was a park.
I drove past the Willys Toledo plant recently, non of it looked torn down but most of it looked idle, though there were lots of new Jeeps in the parking lots. IIRC the Wrangler production was also transferred to the Toldeo North plant when it opened, but I might be wrong. "Jim Peck" <jamesgpeck@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1159104695.097471.232750@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > When the 2001 model year was done, Jeep Cherokee production was ended > at Toledo South Assembly Plant . That part of the old Willys-Overland > plant was torn down. When the 2006 Wrangler model year was over, the > rest of the plant was closed and the rest of the building slated for > teardown. The eliimination of the in-line 6 will end its production at > the old AMC Kenosha Engine Plant. I do not know what product is left in > Kenosha. > > The Liberty and new 4 door Wrangler are assembled in Toledo North > Assembly Palnt. This is visible north of I-75 near the intersection > with I-280. This is famous for having the body-in-whie and paint > departments outsourced. > > The Grand Cherokee is assembled in the Jefferson North Assembly Plant, > the only auto assembly plant in Detoit. > |
Re: new wrangler - ug
Last time I was in Kenosha the AMC final assembly plant was a park.
I drove past the Willys Toledo plant recently, non of it looked torn down but most of it looked idle, though there were lots of new Jeeps in the parking lots. IIRC the Wrangler production was also transferred to the Toldeo North plant when it opened, but I might be wrong. "Jim Peck" <jamesgpeck@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1159104695.097471.232750@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > When the 2001 model year was done, Jeep Cherokee production was ended > at Toledo South Assembly Plant . That part of the old Willys-Overland > plant was torn down. When the 2006 Wrangler model year was over, the > rest of the plant was closed and the rest of the building slated for > teardown. The eliimination of the in-line 6 will end its production at > the old AMC Kenosha Engine Plant. I do not know what product is left in > Kenosha. > > The Liberty and new 4 door Wrangler are assembled in Toledo North > Assembly Palnt. This is visible north of I-75 near the intersection > with I-280. This is famous for having the body-in-whie and paint > departments outsourced. > > The Grand Cherokee is assembled in the Jefferson North Assembly Plant, > the only auto assembly plant in Detoit. > |
Re: new wrangler - ug
Last time I was in Kenosha the AMC final assembly plant was a park.
I drove past the Willys Toledo plant recently, non of it looked torn down but most of it looked idle, though there were lots of new Jeeps in the parking lots. IIRC the Wrangler production was also transferred to the Toldeo North plant when it opened, but I might be wrong. "Jim Peck" <jamesgpeck@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1159104695.097471.232750@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > When the 2001 model year was done, Jeep Cherokee production was ended > at Toledo South Assembly Plant . That part of the old Willys-Overland > plant was torn down. When the 2006 Wrangler model year was over, the > rest of the plant was closed and the rest of the building slated for > teardown. The eliimination of the in-line 6 will end its production at > the old AMC Kenosha Engine Plant. I do not know what product is left in > Kenosha. > > The Liberty and new 4 door Wrangler are assembled in Toledo North > Assembly Palnt. This is visible north of I-75 near the intersection > with I-280. This is famous for having the body-in-whie and paint > departments outsourced. > > The Grand Cherokee is assembled in the Jefferson North Assembly Plant, > the only auto assembly plant in Detoit. > |
Re: new wrangler - ug
I agree, and since I know for a fact that the 2007 Wrangler is available
with two or four doors, and I have seen both versions driving my locale, this would be logical. > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. > > What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last > SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four > door models will be offered." > > Jeff DeWitt |
Re: new wrangler - ug
I agree, and since I know for a fact that the 2007 Wrangler is available
with two or four doors, and I have seen both versions driving my locale, this would be logical. > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. > > What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last > SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four > door models will be offered." > > Jeff DeWitt |
Re: new wrangler - ug
I agree, and since I know for a fact that the 2007 Wrangler is available
with two or four doors, and I have seen both versions driving my locale, this would be logical. > > Oh, I see the confusion now, it's a very clumsily written sentence. > > What he SHOULD have said was something like "The 2006 Wrangler is the last > SUV to be offered only as a two door, starting next year both two and four > door models will be offered." > > Jeff DeWitt |
Re: new wrangler - ug
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> Last time I was in Kenosha the AMC final assembly plant was a park. > > I drove past the Willys Toledo plant recently, non of it looked torn down > but most of it looked idle, though there were lots of new Jeeps in the > parking lots. IIRC the Wrangler production was also transferred to the > Toldeo North plant when it opened, but I might be wrong. The engine plant is still here in Kenosha. According to this, they make the 3.5L and 2.7L V6's: http://cgcomm.daimlerchrysler.com/pl...play&docId=345 Last time I was at the local dealer, I was told that Daimler was contemplating bringing a Hemi line to Kenosha. Of course, that info was from a sales droid, and before $3.00/gal gasoline... -John |
Re: new wrangler - ug
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> Last time I was in Kenosha the AMC final assembly plant was a park. > > I drove past the Willys Toledo plant recently, non of it looked torn down > but most of it looked idle, though there were lots of new Jeeps in the > parking lots. IIRC the Wrangler production was also transferred to the > Toldeo North plant when it opened, but I might be wrong. The engine plant is still here in Kenosha. According to this, they make the 3.5L and 2.7L V6's: http://cgcomm.daimlerchrysler.com/pl...play&docId=345 Last time I was at the local dealer, I was told that Daimler was contemplating bringing a Hemi line to Kenosha. Of course, that info was from a sales droid, and before $3.00/gal gasoline... -John |
Re: new wrangler - ug
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> Last time I was in Kenosha the AMC final assembly plant was a park. > > I drove past the Willys Toledo plant recently, non of it looked torn down > but most of it looked idle, though there were lots of new Jeeps in the > parking lots. IIRC the Wrangler production was also transferred to the > Toldeo North plant when it opened, but I might be wrong. The engine plant is still here in Kenosha. According to this, they make the 3.5L and 2.7L V6's: http://cgcomm.daimlerchrysler.com/pl...play&docId=345 Last time I was at the local dealer, I was told that Daimler was contemplating bringing a Hemi line to Kenosha. Of course, that info was from a sales droid, and before $3.00/gal gasoline... -John |
Re: new wrangler - ug
dvitous@gmail.com wrote:
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: > > "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two > doors." > > It goes on to say > > "The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first > four-door model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline > (cylinders all in a row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel > drive instead of the standard four-wheel-drive setup." > > Full article is here: > > http://www.suntimes.com/output/auto/car-news-car11.html > This does not say that the two door will be cancelled. It says that the 2006 model is the last with ONLY two doors. The 2007 model has two doors OR four doors. Nowhere does it say that it will become ONLY FOUR doors. As it won't. There should be a two door liberty. You can get two door Grand Vitara's overseas. Not very grand that way. They should change the name. |
Re: new wrangler - ug
dvitous@gmail.com wrote:
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: > > "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two > doors." > > It goes on to say > > "The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first > four-door model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline > (cylinders all in a row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel > drive instead of the standard four-wheel-drive setup." > > Full article is here: > > http://www.suntimes.com/output/auto/car-news-car11.html > This does not say that the two door will be cancelled. It says that the 2006 model is the last with ONLY two doors. The 2007 model has two doors OR four doors. Nowhere does it say that it will become ONLY FOUR doors. As it won't. There should be a two door liberty. You can get two door Grand Vitara's overseas. Not very grand that way. They should change the name. |
Re: new wrangler - ug
dvitous@gmail.com wrote:
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote: > > "The 2006 Jeep Wrangler is the last SUV to be offered with only two > doors." > > It goes on to say > > "The 2007 Wrangler soon arrives with availability of its first > four-door model, a V-6 engine instead of the traditional inline > (cylinders all in a row) six-cylinder and the chance to get rear-wheel > drive instead of the standard four-wheel-drive setup." > > Full article is here: > > http://www.suntimes.com/output/auto/car-news-car11.html > This does not say that the two door will be cancelled. It says that the 2006 model is the last with ONLY two doors. The 2007 model has two doors OR four doors. Nowhere does it say that it will become ONLY FOUR doors. As it won't. There should be a two door liberty. You can get two door Grand Vitara's overseas. Not very grand that way. They should change the name. |
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