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Cherokee-Ltd 01-04-2005 04:42 AM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41D9A978.9DC328D9@cox.net...
> Brian? "prehistoric pushrod engine"? Say what? There is no modern OHC
> engine that compare their horsepower and torque to any engine designed
> and sold to the public during the fifties. When the public demanded
> power, guess what, they brought back the old Hemi, and of course
> performance cars such as Corvette, or the Ford and Chevrolet police cars
> never stopped producing their small blocks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a small
engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
answering his question.
There's no replacement for displacment.
-Brian



Cherokee-Ltd 01-04-2005 04:42 AM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41D9A978.9DC328D9@cox.net...
> Brian? "prehistoric pushrod engine"? Say what? There is no modern OHC
> engine that compare their horsepower and torque to any engine designed
> and sold to the public during the fifties. When the public demanded
> power, guess what, they brought back the old Hemi, and of course
> performance cars such as Corvette, or the Ford and Chevrolet police cars
> never stopped producing their small blocks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a small
engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
answering his question.
There's no replacement for displacment.
-Brian



Cherokee-Ltd 01-04-2005 04:42 AM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41D9A978.9DC328D9@cox.net...
> Brian? "prehistoric pushrod engine"? Say what? There is no modern OHC
> engine that compare their horsepower and torque to any engine designed
> and sold to the public during the fifties. When the public demanded
> power, guess what, they brought back the old Hemi, and of course
> performance cars such as Corvette, or the Ford and Chevrolet police cars
> never stopped producing their small blocks.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a small
engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
answering his question.
There's no replacement for displacment.
-Brian



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-04-2005 02:20 PM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 
"... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm." Like,
can you find one with a record at:
http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html ? Where some record categories
are far less than three litters.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>
> Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
> The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
> that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a small
> engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
> horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
> Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
> answering his question.
> There's no replacement for displacment.
> -Brian


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-04-2005 02:20 PM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 
"... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm." Like,
can you find one with a record at:
http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html ? Where some record categories
are far less than three litters.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>
> Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
> The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
> that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a small
> engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
> horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
> Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
> answering his question.
> There's no replacement for displacment.
> -Brian


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-04-2005 02:20 PM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 
"... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm." Like,
can you find one with a record at:
http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html ? Where some record categories
are far less than three litters.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>
> Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
> The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
> that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a small
> engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
> horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
> Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
> answering his question.
> There's no replacement for displacment.
> -Brian


Dave Milne 01-04-2005 05:45 PM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 
That is about right for a F1 engine although, I think the Ferrari one can
rev up to around 18,000 rpm.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41DAEC72.F527EC3@cox.net...
> "... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm." Like,
> can you find one with a record at:
> http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html ? Where some record categories
> are far less than three litters.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
> > The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
> > that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a

small
> > engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
> > horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
> > Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
> > answering his question.
> > There's no replacement for displacment.
> > -Brian




Dave Milne 01-04-2005 05:45 PM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 
That is about right for a F1 engine although, I think the Ferrari one can
rev up to around 18,000 rpm.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41DAEC72.F527EC3@cox.net...
> "... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm." Like,
> can you find one with a record at:
> http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html ? Where some record categories
> are far less than three litters.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
> > The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
> > that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a

small
> > engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
> > horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
> > Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
> > answering his question.
> > There's no replacement for displacment.
> > -Brian




Dave Milne 01-04-2005 05:45 PM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 
That is about right for a F1 engine although, I think the Ferrari one can
rev up to around 18,000 rpm.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41DAEC72.F527EC3@cox.net...
> "... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm." Like,
> can you find one with a record at:
> http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html ? Where some record categories
> are far less than three litters.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill, it didn't take too long to offend you this year! lol
> > The OP was asking how/why a 3.5 could have more hp than the 4.0. Fact is
> > that hp ratings are derived from torque and rpm. If you can build a

small
> > engine that spins really fast, you can support a claim for higher
> > horsepower.... like a 3L F1 engine putting out 900 hp at 16000 rpm.
> > Don't worry, I'm still a big fan of 400-500 cu-in motors, I was just
> > answering his question.
> > There's no replacement for displacment.
> > -Brian




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-04-2005 05:58 PM

Re: New at this, trying to understand horse power
 
I'm not doubting that, what I'm saying is they can't produce the
grunt horsepower needed to accelerate a mass through the quarter mile in
record times, like an American push rod engine, sure they're great for
going around in circles like an Indy car and sounding like a bunch of
little bees.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> That is about right for a F1 engine although, I think the Ferrari one can
> rev up to around 18,000 rpm.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ



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