I found the original Goodyears to be dangerously slippery when wet. I too
went with the Michelin LTXs and have not looked back....
Tomes

"Randy B" <no@way.net> wrote in message
news:bNqdnbrurcfoQ9vZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>i bought my goodyears off a buddy who was upgrading his rubicon, and i've
>had them for nearly 40K miles, and absolutely no complaints. i've beat
>them up off-road and on and they are still in great shape.... well i
>obviously need a front-end alignment, they are a little more worn. however
>i'm hoping they wear out so i can get some BFGs after all the raves i've
>heard about them!
>
> JD Adams wrote:
>>>oem - goodyear wranglers - 42K miles and shot
>>
>>
>> I'm surprised they made it that far. They look pretty on the lot, but
>> they don't work in the real world. I scuttled the OEM's for 30"
>> Michelin LTX's as soon as I drove it off the lot. HUGE difference.
>> Just about any tire on the market is better than Goodyear.
>>
>> I did keep the OEM's, and gave them to a good friend, who put them on a
>> 4-Runner he was selling. He upped the price by $300, and sure enough,
>> some sucker took the bait. Same deal though: the buyer scuttled them
>> as soon as he bought it. HA!
>>
>> -JD
>>

 

ok, you reminded me of a complaint... wet hasn't been the worst, but ice
is truly dangerous.

Tomes wrote:
> I found the original Goodyears to be dangerously slippery when wet. I too
> went with the Michelin LTXs and have not looked back....
> Tomes
>
> "Randy B" <no@way.net> wrote in message
> news:bNqdnbrurcfoQ9vZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>i bought my goodyears off a buddy who was upgrading his rubicon, and i've
>>had them for nearly 40K miles, and absolutely no complaints. i've beat
>>them up off-road and on and they are still in great shape.... well i
>>obviously need a front-end alignment, they are a little more worn. however
>>i'm hoping they wear out so i can get some BFGs after all the raves i've
>>heard about them!
>>
>>JD Adams wrote:
>>
>>>>oem - goodyear wranglers - 42K miles and shot
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm surprised they made it that far. They look pretty on the lot, but
>>>they don't work in the real world. I scuttled the OEM's for 30"
>>>Michelin LTX's as soon as I drove it off the lot. HUGE difference.
>>>Just about any tire on the market is better than Goodyear.
>>>
>>>I did keep the OEM's, and gave them to a good friend, who put them on a
>>>4-Runner he was selling. He upped the price by $300, and sure enough,
>>>some sucker took the bait. Same deal though: the buyer scuttled them
>>>as soon as he bought it. HA!
>>>
>>>-JD
>>>
>
>
>

 

ok, you reminded me of a complaint... wet hasn't been the worst, but ice
is truly dangerous.

Tomes wrote:
> I found the original Goodyears to be dangerously slippery when wet. I too
> went with the Michelin LTXs and have not looked back....
> Tomes
>
> "Randy B" <no@way.net> wrote in message
> news:bNqdnbrurcfoQ9vZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>i bought my goodyears off a buddy who was upgrading his rubicon, and i've
>>had them for nearly 40K miles, and absolutely no complaints. i've beat
>>them up off-road and on and they are still in great shape.... well i
>>obviously need a front-end alignment, they are a little more worn. however
>>i'm hoping they wear out so i can get some BFGs after all the raves i've
>>heard about them!
>>
>>JD Adams wrote:
>>
>>>>oem - goodyear wranglers - 42K miles and shot
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm surprised they made it that far. They look pretty on the lot, but
>>>they don't work in the real world. I scuttled the OEM's for 30"
>>>Michelin LTX's as soon as I drove it off the lot. HUGE difference.
>>>Just about any tire on the market is better than Goodyear.
>>>
>>>I did keep the OEM's, and gave them to a good friend, who put them on a
>>>4-Runner he was selling. He upped the price by $300, and sure enough,
>>>some sucker took the bait. Same deal though: the buyer scuttled them
>>>as soon as he bought it. HA!
>>>
>>>-JD
>>>
>
>
>

 

ok, you reminded me of a complaint... wet hasn't been the worst, but ice
is truly dangerous.

Tomes wrote:
> I found the original Goodyears to be dangerously slippery when wet. I too
> went with the Michelin LTXs and have not looked back....
> Tomes
>
> "Randy B" <no@way.net> wrote in message
> news:bNqdnbrurcfoQ9vZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>i bought my goodyears off a buddy who was upgrading his rubicon, and i've
>>had them for nearly 40K miles, and absolutely no complaints. i've beat
>>them up off-road and on and they are still in great shape.... well i
>>obviously need a front-end alignment, they are a little more worn. however
>>i'm hoping they wear out so i can get some BFGs after all the raves i've
>>heard about them!
>>
>>JD Adams wrote:
>>
>>>>oem - goodyear wranglers - 42K miles and shot
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm surprised they made it that far. They look pretty on the lot, but
>>>they don't work in the real world. I scuttled the OEM's for 30"
>>>Michelin LTX's as soon as I drove it off the lot. HUGE difference.
>>>Just about any tire on the market is better than Goodyear.
>>>
>>>I did keep the OEM's, and gave them to a good friend, who put them on a
>>>4-Runner he was selling. He upped the price by $300, and sure enough,
>>>some sucker took the bait. Same deal though: the buyer scuttled them
>>>as soon as he bought it. HA!
>>>
>>>-JD
>>>
>
>
>

 

"Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
news:861wvtrx37.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> writes:
: >
: > I hope to put on a 2.5" lift in the not too distant future. When I
: > do I am completely smitten with the Yokohama 285/75/16s M/T
: >
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....dar+M%2FT+Plus
: > The only concern I really have is the directional tread. So, the
: > OTHER tire I am really looking at is the Toyo 285/75/16 M/T
: > http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/off_road/opmt.html They look
: > like they have strong sidewalls and great tread.
: >
: > Hopefully, whatever I get, they will be right cause tehy are
: > expensive as all get out!
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
: The Yokohama Geolandar M/T+ looks great. Why are you concerned about
: the directional tread? My Baja Claw's are directional and have great
: traction. I looked at tractor tires before I bought and nearly all are
: directional (except turf tires but I don't drive my Jeep on golf
: courses). I understand that the directional tread pushes the mud out
: of the tread keeping them from getting gooped up.
:
: Of course, I rotate my tires by driving backwards on odd days of the
: week. It doesn't concern me, but I do get strange looks from others.
:
: Good tires are expensive ~ $1,000 or more for a set of 5. To me,
: however, it's the best performance improvement I could have made.

Yup, the directional tread is supposed to be amazing at keeping clean. They
also have a stepped wall on the treads that help even more,
My real concern with the directional, is for the spare. Which one do I get.?
LOL
I know that driving one a short ways on the wrong direction won't hurt it so
really it's not that big of a concern I guess.
The Yokos also have someother nice featureds but the TOYO has great
sidewalls, making them less suceptable for damage.

I dunno... will have to wait and see.

: --

 

"Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
news:861wvtrx37.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> writes:
: >
: > I hope to put on a 2.5" lift in the not too distant future. When I
: > do I am completely smitten with the Yokohama 285/75/16s M/T
: >
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....dar+M%2FT+Plus
: > The only concern I really have is the directional tread. So, the
: > OTHER tire I am really looking at is the Toyo 285/75/16 M/T
: > http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/off_road/opmt.html They look
: > like they have strong sidewalls and great tread.
: >
: > Hopefully, whatever I get, they will be right cause tehy are
: > expensive as all get out!
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
: The Yokohama Geolandar M/T+ looks great. Why are you concerned about
: the directional tread? My Baja Claw's are directional and have great
: traction. I looked at tractor tires before I bought and nearly all are
: directional (except turf tires but I don't drive my Jeep on golf
: courses). I understand that the directional tread pushes the mud out
: of the tread keeping them from getting gooped up.
:
: Of course, I rotate my tires by driving backwards on odd days of the
: week. It doesn't concern me, but I do get strange looks from others.
:
: Good tires are expensive ~ $1,000 or more for a set of 5. To me,
: however, it's the best performance improvement I could have made.

Yup, the directional tread is supposed to be amazing at keeping clean. They
also have a stepped wall on the treads that help even more,
My real concern with the directional, is for the spare. Which one do I get.?
LOL
I know that driving one a short ways on the wrong direction won't hurt it so
really it's not that big of a concern I guess.
The Yokos also have someother nice featureds but the TOYO has great
sidewalls, making them less suceptable for damage.

I dunno... will have to wait and see.

: --

 

"Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
news:861wvtrx37.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> writes:
: >
: > I hope to put on a 2.5" lift in the not too distant future. When I
: > do I am completely smitten with the Yokohama 285/75/16s M/T
: >
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....dar+M%2FT+Plus
: > The only concern I really have is the directional tread. So, the
: > OTHER tire I am really looking at is the Toyo 285/75/16 M/T
: > http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/off_road/opmt.html They look
: > like they have strong sidewalls and great tread.
: >
: > Hopefully, whatever I get, they will be right cause tehy are
: > expensive as all get out!
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
: The Yokohama Geolandar M/T+ looks great. Why are you concerned about
: the directional tread? My Baja Claw's are directional and have great
: traction. I looked at tractor tires before I bought and nearly all are
: directional (except turf tires but I don't drive my Jeep on golf
: courses). I understand that the directional tread pushes the mud out
: of the tread keeping them from getting gooped up.
:
: Of course, I rotate my tires by driving backwards on odd days of the
: week. It doesn't concern me, but I do get strange looks from others.
:
: Good tires are expensive ~ $1,000 or more for a set of 5. To me,
: however, it's the best performance improvement I could have made.

Yup, the directional tread is supposed to be amazing at keeping clean. They
also have a stepped wall on the treads that help even more,
My real concern with the directional, is for the spare. Which one do I get.?
LOL
I know that driving one a short ways on the wrong direction won't hurt it so
really it's not that big of a concern I guess.
The Yokos also have someother nice featureds but the TOYO has great
sidewalls, making them less suceptable for damage.

I dunno... will have to wait and see.

: --

 

The tires on mine tend to throw a lot of rocks, I can go for miles down the
paved road and have it still doing a tap dance before it will let loose a
rock.

That's how I got the dent inside my fender.


"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Ihz1g.4541$Kn4.4493@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
:I went from the 30 x 9.50 R 15 Goodyear's to the BFG AT 31 x 10.50 R 15
also
: and I was really impressed. Now I am running 33 x 12.50 R 15 BFG MT and
: when these were out I will go back with the BFG AT as they were a much
: better ride.
: Here are pics.
: Stock.
: http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/tj/tom/3.jpg
:
: With 31's
: http://www.cantrell.com/scrap/mud%20003.jpg
:
: And now.
: http://www.cantrell.com/scrap/SEAT3.jpg
:
: I like the MT's but they through up way to many big rocks.
:
:
: Tom
:
: "quint" <q@spamstop.com> wrote in message news:LTu1g.27$Fy1.24@trnddc02...
: > original tires had to be replaced so I had the opportunity to get BFG
: > TA/KO's. 31". Wow, what a difference they make. Jeep should have been
: > using these tires as original equipment. I thought I needed new shocks
: and
: > probably front end work. It was all the tires.
: >
: > big difference in how the TJ rides and handles. big. It shifts at more
: > natural points with the 31" tires. and they look gooood! can't wait
for
: > snow and ice.
: >
: >
:
:

 

The tires on mine tend to throw a lot of rocks, I can go for miles down the
paved road and have it still doing a tap dance before it will let loose a
rock.

That's how I got the dent inside my fender.


"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Ihz1g.4541$Kn4.4493@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
:I went from the 30 x 9.50 R 15 Goodyear's to the BFG AT 31 x 10.50 R 15
also
: and I was really impressed. Now I am running 33 x 12.50 R 15 BFG MT and
: when these were out I will go back with the BFG AT as they were a much
: better ride.
: Here are pics.
: Stock.
: http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/tj/tom/3.jpg
:
: With 31's
: http://www.cantrell.com/scrap/mud%20003.jpg
:
: And now.
: http://www.cantrell.com/scrap/SEAT3.jpg
:
: I like the MT's but they through up way to many big rocks.
:
:
: Tom
:
: "quint" <q@spamstop.com> wrote in message news:LTu1g.27$Fy1.24@trnddc02...
: > original tires had to be replaced so I had the opportunity to get BFG
: > TA/KO's. 31". Wow, what a difference they make. Jeep should have been
: > using these tires as original equipment. I thought I needed new shocks
: and
: > probably front end work. It was all the tires.
: >
: > big difference in how the TJ rides and handles. big. It shifts at more
: > natural points with the 31" tires. and they look gooood! can't wait
for
: > snow and ice.
: >
: >
:
:

 

The tires on mine tend to throw a lot of rocks, I can go for miles down the
paved road and have it still doing a tap dance before it will let loose a
rock.

That's how I got the dent inside my fender.


"cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Ihz1g.4541$Kn4.4493@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
:I went from the 30 x 9.50 R 15 Goodyear's to the BFG AT 31 x 10.50 R 15
also
: and I was really impressed. Now I am running 33 x 12.50 R 15 BFG MT and
: when these were out I will go back with the BFG AT as they were a much
: better ride.
: Here are pics.
: Stock.
: http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/tj/tom/3.jpg
:
: With 31's
: http://www.cantrell.com/scrap/mud%20003.jpg
:
: And now.
: http://www.cantrell.com/scrap/SEAT3.jpg
:
: I like the MT's but they through up way to many big rocks.
:
:
: Tom
:
: "quint" <q@spamstop.com> wrote in message news:LTu1g.27$Fy1.24@trnddc02...
: > original tires had to be replaced so I had the opportunity to get BFG
: > TA/KO's. 31". Wow, what a difference they make. Jeep should have been
: > using these tires as original equipment. I thought I needed new shocks
: and
: > probably front end work. It was all the tires.
: >
: > big difference in how the TJ rides and handles. big. It shifts at more
: > natural points with the 31" tires. and they look gooood! can't wait
for
: > snow and ice.
: >
: >
:
: