New Tires
02-19-2004, 10:40 PM
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Re: New Tires
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casey3477@nc.rr.com wrote:
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> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
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casey3477@nc.rr.com wrote:
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> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
02-19-2004, 10:40 PM
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Re: New Tires
http://www.4wheelparts.com:80/Tirel_Gear_Ratio.asp
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casey3477@nc.rr.com wrote:
>
> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
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casey3477@nc.rr.com wrote:
>
> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
02-19-2004, 10:45 PM
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Re: New Tires
3.07:1 is a good ratio for highway cruising - my '98 XJ Sport is so
equipped. Off road performance is good as well in my Jeep.
If you're going to run larger tires, a lower (higher numerically) gear ratio
would be beneficial. Changing your gearing to 3.73 or 4.10 is going to cost
some money. You need to do both axles. Might as well install a limited
slip or locker differentials at the same time, if your jeep is not already
equipped with it.
Why larger tires? I'm using (stock size) Goodyear Wrangler MTR's on my XJ.
The performance on local jeep trails is excellent. My '62 ****** has
215/85R16 Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos (same size as the factory specified
bias ply tires). It handles beautifully. Are you actually using your jeep
offroad or will the larger tires be installed to impress other jeep owners
at the local Dairy Queen parking lot?
Think twice before installing larger tires. Ride and handling will be
adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
increase.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
equipped. Off road performance is good as well in my Jeep.
If you're going to run larger tires, a lower (higher numerically) gear ratio
would be beneficial. Changing your gearing to 3.73 or 4.10 is going to cost
some money. You need to do both axles. Might as well install a limited
slip or locker differentials at the same time, if your jeep is not already
equipped with it.
Why larger tires? I'm using (stock size) Goodyear Wrangler MTR's on my XJ.
The performance on local jeep trails is excellent. My '62 ****** has
215/85R16 Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos (same size as the factory specified
bias ply tires). It handles beautifully. Are you actually using your jeep
offroad or will the larger tires be installed to impress other jeep owners
at the local Dairy Queen parking lot?
Think twice before installing larger tires. Ride and handling will be
adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
increase.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
02-19-2004, 10:45 PM
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Re: New Tires
3.07:1 is a good ratio for highway cruising - my '98 XJ Sport is so
equipped. Off road performance is good as well in my Jeep.
If you're going to run larger tires, a lower (higher numerically) gear ratio
would be beneficial. Changing your gearing to 3.73 or 4.10 is going to cost
some money. You need to do both axles. Might as well install a limited
slip or locker differentials at the same time, if your jeep is not already
equipped with it.
Why larger tires? I'm using (stock size) Goodyear Wrangler MTR's on my XJ.
The performance on local jeep trails is excellent. My '62 ****** has
215/85R16 Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos (same size as the factory specified
bias ply tires). It handles beautifully. Are you actually using your jeep
offroad or will the larger tires be installed to impress other jeep owners
at the local Dairy Queen parking lot?
Think twice before installing larger tires. Ride and handling will be
adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
increase.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
equipped. Off road performance is good as well in my Jeep.
If you're going to run larger tires, a lower (higher numerically) gear ratio
would be beneficial. Changing your gearing to 3.73 or 4.10 is going to cost
some money. You need to do both axles. Might as well install a limited
slip or locker differentials at the same time, if your jeep is not already
equipped with it.
Why larger tires? I'm using (stock size) Goodyear Wrangler MTR's on my XJ.
The performance on local jeep trails is excellent. My '62 ****** has
215/85R16 Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos (same size as the factory specified
bias ply tires). It handles beautifully. Are you actually using your jeep
offroad or will the larger tires be installed to impress other jeep owners
at the local Dairy Queen parking lot?
Think twice before installing larger tires. Ride and handling will be
adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
increase.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
02-19-2004, 10:45 PM
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Re: New Tires
3.07:1 is a good ratio for highway cruising - my '98 XJ Sport is so
equipped. Off road performance is good as well in my Jeep.
If you're going to run larger tires, a lower (higher numerically) gear ratio
would be beneficial. Changing your gearing to 3.73 or 4.10 is going to cost
some money. You need to do both axles. Might as well install a limited
slip or locker differentials at the same time, if your jeep is not already
equipped with it.
Why larger tires? I'm using (stock size) Goodyear Wrangler MTR's on my XJ.
The performance on local jeep trails is excellent. My '62 ****** has
215/85R16 Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos (same size as the factory specified
bias ply tires). It handles beautifully. Are you actually using your jeep
offroad or will the larger tires be installed to impress other jeep owners
at the local Dairy Queen parking lot?
Think twice before installing larger tires. Ride and handling will be
adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
increase.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
equipped. Off road performance is good as well in my Jeep.
If you're going to run larger tires, a lower (higher numerically) gear ratio
would be beneficial. Changing your gearing to 3.73 or 4.10 is going to cost
some money. You need to do both axles. Might as well install a limited
slip or locker differentials at the same time, if your jeep is not already
equipped with it.
Why larger tires? I'm using (stock size) Goodyear Wrangler MTR's on my XJ.
The performance on local jeep trails is excellent. My '62 ****** has
215/85R16 Bridgestone Dueler AT Revos (same size as the factory specified
bias ply tires). It handles beautifully. Are you actually using your jeep
offroad or will the larger tires be installed to impress other jeep owners
at the local Dairy Queen parking lot?
Think twice before installing larger tires. Ride and handling will be
adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
increase.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
> A couple of posts ago I saw something about it is not good to have a gear
> ratio of 3.07 with larger tires. What can expect if I put these tires on?
> Also how much/difficult would it be to change my gearing to 3.73/4.10?
>
> Thanks
02-19-2004, 11:45 PM
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Re: New Tires
"cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
Ride and handling will be
> adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
> increase.
What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the larger
sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components is
a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles, gears,
etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
Jerry
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> 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
Ride and handling will be
> adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
> increase.
What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the larger
sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components is
a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles, gears,
etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
Jerry
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02-19-2004, 11:45 PM
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Re: New Tires
"cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
Ride and handling will be
> adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
> increase.
What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the larger
sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components is
a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles, gears,
etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
Jerry
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> 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
Ride and handling will be
> adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
> increase.
What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the larger
sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components is
a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles, gears,
etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
Jerry
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02-19-2004, 11:45 PM
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Re: New Tires
"cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
Ride and handling will be
> adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
> increase.
What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the larger
sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components is
a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles, gears,
etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
Jerry
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> 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
Ride and handling will be
> adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components will
> increase.
What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the larger
sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components is
a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles, gears,
etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
Jerry
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02-20-2004, 09:17 AM
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Re: New Tires
Hello Jerry,
It's a matter of how much larger we're talking about. I certainly wouldn't
disagree that a slightly larger tire will have little if any negative
impacts. However, the original poster is talking about swapping out ring &
pinion gears, suggesting a radical change to significantly larger tires.
Yes, I am "worried about handling with a Jeep", with no apologies. When I
bought my '62 ****** pickup, it had 15" aftermarket rims with huge 'super
swamper' type tires. It was very difficult to steer, especially at low
speed. I now have 215/85R16 radials on the truck. They're almost exactly
the same size as original equipment 7.00x16 bias ply. Ride and handling
both on and off road is so much better it's remarkable.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
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"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
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> "cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> news:VpfZb.362030$na.545709@attbi_s04...
> > 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
> Ride and handling will be
> > adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components
will
> > increase.
>
> What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
> with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the
larger
> sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
> about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
> issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
> handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
>
> Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components
is
> a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles,
gears,
> etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
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>
>
It's a matter of how much larger we're talking about. I certainly wouldn't
disagree that a slightly larger tire will have little if any negative
impacts. However, the original poster is talking about swapping out ring &
pinion gears, suggesting a radical change to significantly larger tires.
Yes, I am "worried about handling with a Jeep", with no apologies. When I
bought my '62 ****** pickup, it had 15" aftermarket rims with huge 'super
swamper' type tires. It was very difficult to steer, especially at low
speed. I now have 215/85R16 radials on the truck. They're almost exactly
the same size as original equipment 7.00x16 bias ply. Ride and handling
both on and off road is so much better it's remarkable.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
http://mvpimages.net/cgi-bin/******/...on=view&id=224
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
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> "cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> news:VpfZb.362030$na.545709@attbi_s04...
> > 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
> Ride and handling will be
> > adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components
will
> > increase.
>
> What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
> with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the
larger
> sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
> about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
> issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
> handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
>
> Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components
is
> a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles,
gears,
> etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
02-20-2004, 09:17 AM
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Re: New Tires
Hello Jerry,
It's a matter of how much larger we're talking about. I certainly wouldn't
disagree that a slightly larger tire will have little if any negative
impacts. However, the original poster is talking about swapping out ring &
pinion gears, suggesting a radical change to significantly larger tires.
Yes, I am "worried about handling with a Jeep", with no apologies. When I
bought my '62 ****** pickup, it had 15" aftermarket rims with huge 'super
swamper' type tires. It was very difficult to steer, especially at low
speed. I now have 215/85R16 radials on the truck. They're almost exactly
the same size as original equipment 7.00x16 bias ply. Ride and handling
both on and off road is so much better it's remarkable.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
http://mvpimages.net/cgi-bin/******/...on=view&id=224
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
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> "cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> news:VpfZb.362030$na.545709@attbi_s04...
> > 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
> Ride and handling will be
> > adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components
will
> > increase.
>
> What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
> with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the
larger
> sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
> about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
> issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
> handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
>
> Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components
is
> a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles,
gears,
> etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
It's a matter of how much larger we're talking about. I certainly wouldn't
disagree that a slightly larger tire will have little if any negative
impacts. However, the original poster is talking about swapping out ring &
pinion gears, suggesting a radical change to significantly larger tires.
Yes, I am "worried about handling with a Jeep", with no apologies. When I
bought my '62 ****** pickup, it had 15" aftermarket rims with huge 'super
swamper' type tires. It was very difficult to steer, especially at low
speed. I now have 215/85R16 radials on the truck. They're almost exactly
the same size as original equipment 7.00x16 bias ply. Ride and handling
both on and off road is so much better it's remarkable.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
http://mvpimages.net/cgi-bin/******/...on=view&id=224
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
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> "cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message
> news:VpfZb.362030$na.545709@attbi_s04...
> > 3.07:1 is a good ratio for> Think twice before installing larger tires.
> Ride and handling will be
> > adversely affected. Wear and tear on drivetrain and axle components
will
> > increase.
>
> What??? The ride with bigger tires can be every bit as good as it can be
> with smaller tires, often better due to the increased ability of the
larger
> sidewall to flex and make the ride smoother. Handling??? You're worried
> about handling with a Jeep? Buy a small sports car if handling is a big
> issue. Besides, going to a reasonably sized larger tire won't affect
> handling in a significant way with proper wheel sizing.
>
> Finally, your claim of additional wear on drivetrain and axle components
is
> a stretch as well. With reasonably sized "larger" tires, the axles,
gears,
> etc. on a Jeep won't even notice their larger size.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
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>
>