Re: New starter continually runs
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Very good point!
>
> Most have two bolts so it could be upside down for the application. It
> would be a quick fix anyway.
>
> Mike
>


Quick fix for what? He's already extended his wiring so that's not an
issue anymore and he'd be hard pressed to swap these two wires at the
starter. The problem is the starter takes off as soon as the wires are
connected.

A motorcraft starter will have a solenoid on the fender well and
appropriate wires running to it, and one down to the starter. His
starter has two wires running to it hence it's not a motorcraft, and has
the solenoid mounted directly to it so again, not a motorcraft.

His system should have a starter relay energized by the ignition switch,
which in turn feeds power down to the solenoid on his starter. When
this starter mounted solenoid energizes it will connect the hot wire
that runs DIRECTLY from his battery to said solenoid, to the starter motor.


If the starter takes off with the brown (look real close Erik. I bet
it's not really black) solenoid wire disconnected then his STARTER
MOUNTED solenoid has to be defective.

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Very good point!
>
> Most have two bolts so it could be upside down for the application. It
> would be a quick fix anyway.
>
> Mike
>


Quick fix for what? He's already extended his wiring so that's not an
issue anymore and he'd be hard pressed to swap these two wires at the
starter. The problem is the starter takes off as soon as the wires are
connected.

A motorcraft starter will have a solenoid on the fender well and
appropriate wires running to it, and one down to the starter. His
starter has two wires running to it hence it's not a motorcraft, and has
the solenoid mounted directly to it so again, not a motorcraft.

His system should have a starter relay energized by the ignition switch,
which in turn feeds power down to the solenoid on his starter. When
this starter mounted solenoid energizes it will connect the hot wire
that runs DIRECTLY from his battery to said solenoid, to the starter motor.


If the starter takes off with the brown (look real close Erik. I bet
it's not really black) solenoid wire disconnected then his STARTER
MOUNTED solenoid has to be defective.

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> Very good point!
>
> Most have two bolts so it could be upside down for the application. It
> would be a quick fix anyway.
>
> Mike
>


Quick fix for what? He's already extended his wiring so that's not an
issue anymore and he'd be hard pressed to swap these two wires at the
starter. The problem is the starter takes off as soon as the wires are
connected.

A motorcraft starter will have a solenoid on the fender well and
appropriate wires running to it, and one down to the starter. His
starter has two wires running to it hence it's not a motorcraft, and has
the solenoid mounted directly to it so again, not a motorcraft.

His system should have a starter relay energized by the ignition switch,
which in turn feeds power down to the solenoid on his starter. When
this starter mounted solenoid energizes it will connect the hot wire
that runs DIRECTLY from his battery to said solenoid, to the starter motor.


If the starter takes off with the brown (look real close Erik. I bet
it's not really black) solenoid wire disconnected then his STARTER
MOUNTED solenoid has to be defective.

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Tom Greening wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Very good point!
>>
>> Most have two bolts so it could be upside down for the application.
>> It would be a quick fix anyway.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
> Quick fix for what?

Flipping the starter case would be a quick fix for the wrong part or if
the rebuilder just screwed up for the application like Earle mentions...
(if one was desperate and just 'had' to use that starter because it is
the last one in the state or something)

I am sorry, but I just can't imagine someone actually having to change
wiring around to put the 'wrong' starter into a Jeep and thinking that
all is right with things.....

I too would like to hear the results....

Mike

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Tom Greening wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Very good point!
>>
>> Most have two bolts so it could be upside down for the application.
>> It would be a quick fix anyway.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
> Quick fix for what?

Flipping the starter case would be a quick fix for the wrong part or if
the rebuilder just screwed up for the application like Earle mentions...
(if one was desperate and just 'had' to use that starter because it is
the last one in the state or something)

I am sorry, but I just can't imagine someone actually having to change
wiring around to put the 'wrong' starter into a Jeep and thinking that
all is right with things.....

I too would like to hear the results....

Mike

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Tom Greening wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Very good point!
>>
>> Most have two bolts so it could be upside down for the application.
>> It would be a quick fix anyway.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
> Quick fix for what?

Flipping the starter case would be a quick fix for the wrong part or if
the rebuilder just screwed up for the application like Earle mentions...
(if one was desperate and just 'had' to use that starter because it is
the last one in the state or something)

I am sorry, but I just can't imagine someone actually having to change
wiring around to put the 'wrong' starter into a Jeep and thinking that
all is right with things.....

I too would like to hear the results....

Mike

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Tom Greening wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Very good point!
>>
>> Most have two bolts so it could be upside down for the application.
>> It would be a quick fix anyway.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
> Quick fix for what?

Flipping the starter case would be a quick fix for the wrong part or if
the rebuilder just screwed up for the application like Earle mentions...
(if one was desperate and just 'had' to use that starter because it is
the last one in the state or something)

I am sorry, but I just can't imagine someone actually having to change
wiring around to put the 'wrong' starter into a Jeep and thinking that
all is right with things.....

I too would like to hear the results....

Mike

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Ditto.
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"Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
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>
> I can. Maybe you just don't have as much experience with human nature
> and some of the downright senseless stubbornness that I have seen. One
> wants to remember, too, that one function of these posts is that somebody
> in the future, about to make the same mistake, might read something that
> will change his mind. One can always hope.
>
> Earle
>
>

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Ditto.
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"Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
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>
> I can. Maybe you just don't have as much experience with human nature
> and some of the downright senseless stubbornness that I have seen. One
> wants to remember, too, that one function of these posts is that somebody
> in the future, about to make the same mistake, might read something that
> will change his mind. One can always hope.
>
> Earle
>
>

Re: New starter continually runs
 

Ditto.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
news:YdudnRlMXe8swCTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> I can. Maybe you just don't have as much experience with human nature
> and some of the downright senseless stubbornness that I have seen. One
> wants to remember, too, that one function of these posts is that somebody
> in the future, about to make the same mistake, might read something that
> will change his mind. One can always hope.
>
> Earle
>
>