Carl Saiyed

I'm curious if he can beat the price that the I was quoted at that site?
It's pretty hard to beat free shocks and free shipping.. I'll def give him a
call and see!

Thanks,

Carl


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:tvzSd.19142$Tt.12299@fed1read05...
> Bob Supplee (great guy to buy Jeep parts from) owns Supplee 4WD Parts
> and is at supplee@ionet.net or 405-799-8977. I've been buying most of
> my stuff from him for 6-7 years now and he has done some
> amazing/impressive things as part of his normal customer service. I
> can't recommend Bob highly enough, great delivered prices as well as an
> honest guy with good mid-western values..
>
> Jerry
>
> Jim Kelly wrote:
> > A fellow named Bob Supplee probably has better prices. I bought the
RE6030
> > (3.5 superride w/ full rear leafs) from him for much less than most
others
> > offered. I could probably find his contact info if no one else has it.
> >
> > Jim
> > 94XJ
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:421a83ae_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >
> >>The 2" I got with the AAL's just doesn't flex like I want it to. I'm
> >>checking out the Rubicon Express 3.5" (w/rear springs) and the Rubicon
> >>Express 4.5". Both are the super-flex versions.
> >>
> >>Here,
> >>
> >
> >
http://www.offroadtoystore.com/Merch...TGY&Category_C
> > ode=CAT-Suspension-LiftKits-Jeep-XJ
> >
> >>The 4.5" kit is only $238 more, yet it comes with 1" longer coils, a new
> >>track bar, upper control arms, transfer case drop, and front brake
lines.
> >
> > It
> >
> >>uses the same rear springs as the 3.5" and uses a 1" lift shackle for
the
> >>rear.
> >>
> >>I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> >>however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more
U-joints
> >>with the 4.5" over the 3.5". Will I need an SYE with either?
> >>
> >>How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"? Will I need a new track bar
for
> >>the 3.5"? I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper
control
> >>arms.
> >>
> >>If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?
> >
> > The
> >
> >>above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible. Thoughts on
> >>those?
> >>
> >>it never ends..
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Carl
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Carl Saiyed

I'm curious if he can beat the price that the I was quoted at that site?
It's pretty hard to beat free shocks and free shipping.. I'll def give him a
call and see!

Thanks,

Carl


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:tvzSd.19142$Tt.12299@fed1read05...
> Bob Supplee (great guy to buy Jeep parts from) owns Supplee 4WD Parts
> and is at supplee@ionet.net or 405-799-8977. I've been buying most of
> my stuff from him for 6-7 years now and he has done some
> amazing/impressive things as part of his normal customer service. I
> can't recommend Bob highly enough, great delivered prices as well as an
> honest guy with good mid-western values..
>
> Jerry
>
> Jim Kelly wrote:
> > A fellow named Bob Supplee probably has better prices. I bought the
RE6030
> > (3.5 superride w/ full rear leafs) from him for much less than most
others
> > offered. I could probably find his contact info if no one else has it.
> >
> > Jim
> > 94XJ
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:421a83ae_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >
> >>The 2" I got with the AAL's just doesn't flex like I want it to. I'm
> >>checking out the Rubicon Express 3.5" (w/rear springs) and the Rubicon
> >>Express 4.5". Both are the super-flex versions.
> >>
> >>Here,
> >>
> >
> >
http://www.offroadtoystore.com/Merch...TGY&Category_C
> > ode=CAT-Suspension-LiftKits-Jeep-XJ
> >
> >>The 4.5" kit is only $238 more, yet it comes with 1" longer coils, a new
> >>track bar, upper control arms, transfer case drop, and front brake
lines.
> >
> > It
> >
> >>uses the same rear springs as the 3.5" and uses a 1" lift shackle for
the
> >>rear.
> >>
> >>I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> >>however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more
U-joints
> >>with the 4.5" over the 3.5". Will I need an SYE with either?
> >>
> >>How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"? Will I need a new track bar
for
> >>the 3.5"? I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper
control
> >>arms.
> >>
> >>If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?
> >
> > The
> >
> >>above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible. Thoughts on
> >>those?
> >>
> >>it never ends..
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Carl
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Carl Saiyed

I'm curious if he can beat the price that the I was quoted at that site?
It's pretty hard to beat free shocks and free shipping.. I'll def give him a
call and see!

Thanks,

Carl


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:tvzSd.19142$Tt.12299@fed1read05...
> Bob Supplee (great guy to buy Jeep parts from) owns Supplee 4WD Parts
> and is at supplee@ionet.net or 405-799-8977. I've been buying most of
> my stuff from him for 6-7 years now and he has done some
> amazing/impressive things as part of his normal customer service. I
> can't recommend Bob highly enough, great delivered prices as well as an
> honest guy with good mid-western values..
>
> Jerry
>
> Jim Kelly wrote:
> > A fellow named Bob Supplee probably has better prices. I bought the
RE6030
> > (3.5 superride w/ full rear leafs) from him for much less than most
others
> > offered. I could probably find his contact info if no one else has it.
> >
> > Jim
> > 94XJ
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:421a83ae_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >
> >>The 2" I got with the AAL's just doesn't flex like I want it to. I'm
> >>checking out the Rubicon Express 3.5" (w/rear springs) and the Rubicon
> >>Express 4.5". Both are the super-flex versions.
> >>
> >>Here,
> >>
> >
> >
http://www.offroadtoystore.com/Merch...TGY&Category_C
> > ode=CAT-Suspension-LiftKits-Jeep-XJ
> >
> >>The 4.5" kit is only $238 more, yet it comes with 1" longer coils, a new
> >>track bar, upper control arms, transfer case drop, and front brake
lines.
> >
> > It
> >
> >>uses the same rear springs as the 3.5" and uses a 1" lift shackle for
the
> >>rear.
> >>
> >>I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> >>however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more
U-joints
> >>with the 4.5" over the 3.5". Will I need an SYE with either?
> >>
> >>How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"? Will I need a new track bar
for
> >>the 3.5"? I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper
control
> >>arms.
> >>
> >>If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?
> >
> > The
> >
> >>above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible. Thoughts on
> >>those?
> >>
> >>it never ends..
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Carl
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Steve

Carl Saiyed wrote:
> I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more U-joints
> with the 4.5" over the 3.5".

Hi Carl,

I've run the 4.5" for a year and a half without a SYE and have had no
failed u-joints.

> Will I need an SYE with either?

No. You can use the t-case drop and (if required) angle shims under the
rear leafs to run vibe-free on either lift without a SYE.

> How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"?

Exactly one inch better. Plus you get a shiny new track bar, and shiny
new rear shackles, and shiny new upper control arms.

> Will I need a new track bar for the 3.5"?

No, but you'll need to lower the bracket to maintain proper geometry
with the stock bar. Using a longer bar would improve the range of travel.

> I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper control
> arms.

It should work fine.

> If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?

Yes.

> The above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible.

This long yoke is recommended if you want to put off getting a
SYE/CV-shaft. The stock yoke will work, but it has very little
slip-spline engagement and is prone to twisting. As an aside, when I
chucked my Dana 35 for a 44, the longer pinion made the stock shaft and
stock yoke a perfect combination for my lift. To use the stock shaft you
have to grind out the armpits between the yoke ears to avoid drive shaft
binding at full drop.

Before you buy anything else Carl, ask yourself exactly where you want
to end up. Are you content with your 31" tires? If so, the 3.5" lift is
ideal. Maybe you should just save up to go straight to the 5.5" kit,
SYE/shaft, 33x12.50 tires, cutout flares, offset wheels, 4.56 gears,
heavier rear end.

I found that the 4.5" was sort of a sweet spot for getting good
performance on limited budget. I was able to fit 33x10.50 tires for
great clearance without having to blow cash on new wheels, new flares,
new drive shaft, and a fixed yoke conversion. I swapped in 4.10 gears
from a junked 4-banger for next to nothing and I was good to go. With
the money saved, I was able to build up a Dana 44 with an air locker in
my basement at my own pace.

So, if you have future plans for 32" or 33" tires, go with the 4.5" kit.
You can later upgrade drive shaft, yoke, tires, wheels, gears, rear
end, etc. as time and budget allows.

If you go with the RE 4.5", be sure to first upgrade the base kit with
the following options:

1. Longer yoke. Either the RE one or one pulled from a junkyard YJ.
2. Heavy duty track bar and bracket.
3. JKS Quicker sway bar disconnects.
4. Drop Pitman arm.
5. Extended rear bump stops.
6. Degree shims (may or may not need them to tip the pinion down)

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Steve

Carl Saiyed wrote:
> I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more U-joints
> with the 4.5" over the 3.5".

Hi Carl,

I've run the 4.5" for a year and a half without a SYE and have had no
failed u-joints.

> Will I need an SYE with either?

No. You can use the t-case drop and (if required) angle shims under the
rear leafs to run vibe-free on either lift without a SYE.

> How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"?

Exactly one inch better. Plus you get a shiny new track bar, and shiny
new rear shackles, and shiny new upper control arms.

> Will I need a new track bar for the 3.5"?

No, but you'll need to lower the bracket to maintain proper geometry
with the stock bar. Using a longer bar would improve the range of travel.

> I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper control
> arms.

It should work fine.

> If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?

Yes.

> The above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible.

This long yoke is recommended if you want to put off getting a
SYE/CV-shaft. The stock yoke will work, but it has very little
slip-spline engagement and is prone to twisting. As an aside, when I
chucked my Dana 35 for a 44, the longer pinion made the stock shaft and
stock yoke a perfect combination for my lift. To use the stock shaft you
have to grind out the armpits between the yoke ears to avoid drive shaft
binding at full drop.

Before you buy anything else Carl, ask yourself exactly where you want
to end up. Are you content with your 31" tires? If so, the 3.5" lift is
ideal. Maybe you should just save up to go straight to the 5.5" kit,
SYE/shaft, 33x12.50 tires, cutout flares, offset wheels, 4.56 gears,
heavier rear end.

I found that the 4.5" was sort of a sweet spot for getting good
performance on limited budget. I was able to fit 33x10.50 tires for
great clearance without having to blow cash on new wheels, new flares,
new drive shaft, and a fixed yoke conversion. I swapped in 4.10 gears
from a junked 4-banger for next to nothing and I was good to go. With
the money saved, I was able to build up a Dana 44 with an air locker in
my basement at my own pace.

So, if you have future plans for 32" or 33" tires, go with the 4.5" kit.
You can later upgrade drive shaft, yoke, tires, wheels, gears, rear
end, etc. as time and budget allows.

If you go with the RE 4.5", be sure to first upgrade the base kit with
the following options:

1. Longer yoke. Either the RE one or one pulled from a junkyard YJ.
2. Heavy duty track bar and bracket.
3. JKS Quicker sway bar disconnects.
4. Drop Pitman arm.
5. Extended rear bump stops.
6. Degree shims (may or may not need them to tip the pinion down)

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Steve

Carl Saiyed wrote:
> I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more U-joints
> with the 4.5" over the 3.5".

Hi Carl,

I've run the 4.5" for a year and a half without a SYE and have had no
failed u-joints.

> Will I need an SYE with either?

No. You can use the t-case drop and (if required) angle shims under the
rear leafs to run vibe-free on either lift without a SYE.

> How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"?

Exactly one inch better. Plus you get a shiny new track bar, and shiny
new rear shackles, and shiny new upper control arms.

> Will I need a new track bar for the 3.5"?

No, but you'll need to lower the bracket to maintain proper geometry
with the stock bar. Using a longer bar would improve the range of travel.

> I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper control
> arms.

It should work fine.

> If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?

Yes.

> The above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible.

This long yoke is recommended if you want to put off getting a
SYE/CV-shaft. The stock yoke will work, but it has very little
slip-spline engagement and is prone to twisting. As an aside, when I
chucked my Dana 35 for a 44, the longer pinion made the stock shaft and
stock yoke a perfect combination for my lift. To use the stock shaft you
have to grind out the armpits between the yoke ears to avoid drive shaft
binding at full drop.

Before you buy anything else Carl, ask yourself exactly where you want
to end up. Are you content with your 31" tires? If so, the 3.5" lift is
ideal. Maybe you should just save up to go straight to the 5.5" kit,
SYE/shaft, 33x12.50 tires, cutout flares, offset wheels, 4.56 gears,
heavier rear end.

I found that the 4.5" was sort of a sweet spot for getting good
performance on limited budget. I was able to fit 33x10.50 tires for
great clearance without having to blow cash on new wheels, new flares,
new drive shaft, and a fixed yoke conversion. I swapped in 4.10 gears
from a junked 4-banger for next to nothing and I was good to go. With
the money saved, I was able to build up a Dana 44 with an air locker in
my basement at my own pace.

So, if you have future plans for 32" or 33" tires, go with the 4.5" kit.
You can later upgrade drive shaft, yoke, tires, wheels, gears, rear
end, etc. as time and budget allows.

If you go with the RE 4.5", be sure to first upgrade the base kit with
the following options:

1. Longer yoke. Either the RE one or one pulled from a junkyard YJ.
2. Heavy duty track bar and bracket.
3. JKS Quicker sway bar disconnects.
4. Drop Pitman arm.
5. Extended rear bump stops.
6. Degree shims (may or may not need them to tip the pinion down)

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Cherokee-Ltd

Carl,

Two issues came to mind when I chose my lift;
Do I want to run 31" rubber forever?
Does the kit allow for future growth?

The 3.5" kit will get you into 31's and you will experience a little rubbing
in extreme conditions... not enough to do damage if you take some
precautions. Adjust your steering stops and install extended bumpstops. You
probably won't experience any vibes, it will look good but you'll never go
beyond 31" rubber with any component from that kit.

The 4.5" kit gets you comfortable into 31's and 33's with fender trimming.
You will likely get some vibes unless you lower the transfer case or add an
SYE.

I decided on the 4.5" kit for my XJ and I was initially drawn to the RE kit
because of it's reputation. I decided against the RE kit because of it's
components. The RE kit comes with the 3.5" springs, if I ever wanted to go
up I would need new springs. The RE kit comes with fixed length upper and
lower control arms, again, if I wanted to go up I would need adjustable
control arms to correct castor angle. The disco's would need new tubes as
well unless I upgraded to JKS at the time of purchase. The adjustable track
bar is nice but the frame end comes with a heim joint. These are optimal for
flex but don't last long in our salt belt.

I went with the Rusty's 4.5" kit. I'm not trying to sell you on Rusty's but
this kit fit the bill for my reasons. The kit comes with 4.5" springs, I can
always add shackles or blocks to go up. While it only includes a set of
fixed length lower control arms, I can order adjustable uppers to fine tune
castor angles - this is necessary even at 4.5" and they should be
recommended in the kit. The adjustable track bar comes with a TRE frame end
and the heavy duty bushing end (same as the axle end) is available. I
believe the heavy duty setup would last the life of the Jeep unless you plan
to lift beyond 8".

The bottom line is, my Rusty's kit didn't save me any money initially over
the RE kit (adding adjustable uppers and JKS Discos) but I can go up to
6-6.5" lift and keep all my components... just add a budget boost kit to it.
(2" spacers or ACOS and 1" block with 1" shackles).

Consider your future plans before you spend any more money. You can save
cash by buying a kit but the best lifts are pieced together. If I had to do
it over again, I would do:
4.5" RE Coils
4.5" Rustys Leaf Packs
Rustys HD Adjustable Track Bar
JKS Discos
RS 9000 Shocks
Rustys Fixed Lower Control Arms
Rustys Adjustable Upper Control Arms
The are plenty of better components out there but those above cater to my
really tight budget and I see the components as being great value.

-Brian



"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:421a83ae_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The 2" I got with the AAL's just doesn't flex like I want it to. I'm
> checking out the Rubicon Express 3.5" (w/rear springs) and the Rubicon
> Express 4.5". Both are the super-flex versions.
>
> Here,
> http://www.offroadtoystore.com/Merch...ftKits-Jeep-XJ
>
> The 4.5" kit is only $238 more, yet it comes with 1" longer coils, a new
> track bar, upper control arms, transfer case drop, and front brake lines.
> It
> uses the same rear springs as the 3.5" and uses a 1" lift shackle for the
> rear.
>
> I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more U-joints
> with the 4.5" over the 3.5". Will I need an SYE with either?
>
> How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"? Will I need a new track bar for
> the 3.5"? I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper control
> arms.
>
> If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?
> The
> above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible. Thoughts on
> those?
>
> it never ends..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>

Cherokee-Ltd

Carl,

Two issues came to mind when I chose my lift;
Do I want to run 31" rubber forever?
Does the kit allow for future growth?

The 3.5" kit will get you into 31's and you will experience a little rubbing
in extreme conditions... not enough to do damage if you take some
precautions. Adjust your steering stops and install extended bumpstops. You
probably won't experience any vibes, it will look good but you'll never go
beyond 31" rubber with any component from that kit.

The 4.5" kit gets you comfortable into 31's and 33's with fender trimming.
You will likely get some vibes unless you lower the transfer case or add an
SYE.

I decided on the 4.5" kit for my XJ and I was initially drawn to the RE kit
because of it's reputation. I decided against the RE kit because of it's
components. The RE kit comes with the 3.5" springs, if I ever wanted to go
up I would need new springs. The RE kit comes with fixed length upper and
lower control arms, again, if I wanted to go up I would need adjustable
control arms to correct castor angle. The disco's would need new tubes as
well unless I upgraded to JKS at the time of purchase. The adjustable track
bar is nice but the frame end comes with a heim joint. These are optimal for
flex but don't last long in our salt belt.

I went with the Rusty's 4.5" kit. I'm not trying to sell you on Rusty's but
this kit fit the bill for my reasons. The kit comes with 4.5" springs, I can
always add shackles or blocks to go up. While it only includes a set of
fixed length lower control arms, I can order adjustable uppers to fine tune
castor angles - this is necessary even at 4.5" and they should be
recommended in the kit. The adjustable track bar comes with a TRE frame end
and the heavy duty bushing end (same as the axle end) is available. I
believe the heavy duty setup would last the life of the Jeep unless you plan
to lift beyond 8".

The bottom line is, my Rusty's kit didn't save me any money initially over
the RE kit (adding adjustable uppers and JKS Discos) but I can go up to
6-6.5" lift and keep all my components... just add a budget boost kit to it.
(2" spacers or ACOS and 1" block with 1" shackles).

Consider your future plans before you spend any more money. You can save
cash by buying a kit but the best lifts are pieced together. If I had to do
it over again, I would do:
4.5" RE Coils
4.5" Rustys Leaf Packs
Rustys HD Adjustable Track Bar
JKS Discos
RS 9000 Shocks
Rustys Fixed Lower Control Arms
Rustys Adjustable Upper Control Arms
The are plenty of better components out there but those above cater to my
really tight budget and I see the components as being great value.

-Brian



"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:421a83ae_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The 2" I got with the AAL's just doesn't flex like I want it to. I'm
> checking out the Rubicon Express 3.5" (w/rear springs) and the Rubicon
> Express 4.5". Both are the super-flex versions.
>
> Here,
> http://www.offroadtoystore.com/Merch...ftKits-Jeep-XJ
>
> The 4.5" kit is only $238 more, yet it comes with 1" longer coils, a new
> track bar, upper control arms, transfer case drop, and front brake lines.
> It
> uses the same rear springs as the 3.5" and uses a 1" lift shackle for the
> rear.
>
> I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more U-joints
> with the 4.5" over the 3.5". Will I need an SYE with either?
>
> How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"? Will I need a new track bar for
> the 3.5"? I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper control
> arms.
>
> If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?
> The
> above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible. Thoughts on
> those?
>
> it never ends..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>

Cherokee-Ltd

Carl,

Two issues came to mind when I chose my lift;
Do I want to run 31" rubber forever?
Does the kit allow for future growth?

The 3.5" kit will get you into 31's and you will experience a little rubbing
in extreme conditions... not enough to do damage if you take some
precautions. Adjust your steering stops and install extended bumpstops. You
probably won't experience any vibes, it will look good but you'll never go
beyond 31" rubber with any component from that kit.

The 4.5" kit gets you comfortable into 31's and 33's with fender trimming.
You will likely get some vibes unless you lower the transfer case or add an
SYE.

I decided on the 4.5" kit for my XJ and I was initially drawn to the RE kit
because of it's reputation. I decided against the RE kit because of it's
components. The RE kit comes with the 3.5" springs, if I ever wanted to go
up I would need new springs. The RE kit comes with fixed length upper and
lower control arms, again, if I wanted to go up I would need adjustable
control arms to correct castor angle. The disco's would need new tubes as
well unless I upgraded to JKS at the time of purchase. The adjustable track
bar is nice but the frame end comes with a heim joint. These are optimal for
flex but don't last long in our salt belt.

I went with the Rusty's 4.5" kit. I'm not trying to sell you on Rusty's but
this kit fit the bill for my reasons. The kit comes with 4.5" springs, I can
always add shackles or blocks to go up. While it only includes a set of
fixed length lower control arms, I can order adjustable uppers to fine tune
castor angles - this is necessary even at 4.5" and they should be
recommended in the kit. The adjustable track bar comes with a TRE frame end
and the heavy duty bushing end (same as the axle end) is available. I
believe the heavy duty setup would last the life of the Jeep unless you plan
to lift beyond 8".

The bottom line is, my Rusty's kit didn't save me any money initially over
the RE kit (adding adjustable uppers and JKS Discos) but I can go up to
6-6.5" lift and keep all my components... just add a budget boost kit to it.
(2" spacers or ACOS and 1" block with 1" shackles).

Consider your future plans before you spend any more money. You can save
cash by buying a kit but the best lifts are pieced together. If I had to do
it over again, I would do:
4.5" RE Coils
4.5" Rustys Leaf Packs
Rustys HD Adjustable Track Bar
JKS Discos
RS 9000 Shocks
Rustys Fixed Lower Control Arms
Rustys Adjustable Upper Control Arms
The are plenty of better components out there but those above cater to my
really tight budget and I see the components as being great value.

-Brian



"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:421a83ae_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> The 2" I got with the AAL's just doesn't flex like I want it to. I'm
> checking out the Rubicon Express 3.5" (w/rear springs) and the Rubicon
> Express 4.5". Both are the super-flex versions.
>
> Here,
> http://www.offroadtoystore.com/Merch...ftKits-Jeep-XJ
>
> The 4.5" kit is only $238 more, yet it comes with 1" longer coils, a new
> track bar, upper control arms, transfer case drop, and front brake lines.
> It
> uses the same rear springs as the 3.5" and uses a 1" lift shackle for the
> rear.
>
> I like the 4.5" kit because it is higher and includes the formentioned,
> however I'm concerned that I'll need an SYE and break a lot more U-joints
> with the 4.5" over the 3.5". Will I need an SYE with either?
>
> How much better is the 4.5" over the 3.5"? Will I need a new track bar for
> the 3.5"? I'm not sure how the 3.5" will work with the stock upper control
> arms.
>
> If I get the 4.5", can I get away with the stock slip yoke for a while?
> The
> above mentioned web site has a longer slip yoke availible. Thoughts on
> those?
>
> it never ends..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>

twaldron

I'll give a big second to that. There is no better customer service than
Bob gives...period.

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Bob Supplee (great guy to buy Jeep parts from) owns Supplee 4WD Parts
> and is at supplee@ionet.net or 405-799-8977. I've been buying most of
> my stuff from him for 6-7 years now and he has done some
> amazing/impressive things as part of his normal customer service. I
> can't recommend Bob highly enough, great delivered prices as well as an
> honest guy with good mid-western values..
>
> Jerry


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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

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Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
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