new jeeper
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Re: new jeeper
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
:
: That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
: into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
:
Frame parts?
Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
driveshaft
2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
4. adjustable track bar.
5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
-Brian
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Re: new jeeper
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
:
: That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
: into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
:
Frame parts?
Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
driveshaft
2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
4. adjustable track bar.
5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
-Brian
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Re: new jeeper
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
:
: That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
: into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
:
Frame parts?
Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
driveshaft
2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
4. adjustable track bar.
5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
-Brian
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Re: new jeeper
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> :
> : That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
> : into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
> :
>
> Frame parts?
> Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
I thought I have seen massive frame blocks or extensions of some sort
added for the lower control arms?
Mike
>
> No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
> some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
>
> 1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
> driveshaft
> 2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
> 3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
> 4. adjustable track bar.
> 5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
> 6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
>
> The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
> front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
> will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
> add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
> satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
> rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
> using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
>
> A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
> There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
>
> I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
> http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
>
> -Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> :
> : That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
> : into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
> :
>
> Frame parts?
> Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
I thought I have seen massive frame blocks or extensions of some sort
added for the lower control arms?
Mike
>
> No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
> some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
>
> 1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
> driveshaft
> 2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
> 3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
> 4. adjustable track bar.
> 5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
> 6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
>
> The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
> front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
> will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
> add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
> satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
> rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
> using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
>
> A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
> There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
>
> I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
> http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
>
> -Brian
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Re: new jeeper
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> :
> : That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
> : into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
> :
>
> Frame parts?
> Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
I thought I have seen massive frame blocks or extensions of some sort
added for the lower control arms?
Mike
>
> No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
> some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
>
> 1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
> driveshaft
> 2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
> 3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
> 4. adjustable track bar.
> 5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
> 6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
>
> The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
> front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
> will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
> add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
> satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
> rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
> using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
>
> A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
> There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
>
> I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
> http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
>
> -Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> :
> : That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
> : into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
> :
>
> Frame parts?
> Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
I thought I have seen massive frame blocks or extensions of some sort
added for the lower control arms?
Mike
>
> No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
> some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
>
> 1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
> driveshaft
> 2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
> 3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
> 4. adjustable track bar.
> 5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
> 6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
>
> The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
> front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
> will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
> add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
> satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
> rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
> using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
>
> A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
> There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
>
> I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
> http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
>
> -Brian
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Re: new jeeper
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> :
> : That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
> : into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
> :
>
> Frame parts?
> Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
I thought I have seen massive frame blocks or extensions of some sort
added for the lower control arms?
Mike
>
> No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
> some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
>
> 1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
> driveshaft
> 2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
> 3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
> 4. adjustable track bar.
> 5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
> 6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
>
> The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
> front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
> will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
> add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
> satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
> rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
> using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
>
> A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
> There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
>
> I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
> http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
>
> -Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> :
> : That said you can get inexpensive 1.5 or 2" spacer lifts for them or get
> : into spring replacement and new frame parts to go up over 3".
> :
>
> Frame parts?
> Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
I thought I have seen massive frame blocks or extensions of some sort
added for the lower control arms?
Mike
>
> No frame parts required to lift a Cherokee (XJ) but you may want to consider
> some other mods. if you are thinking of going over three inches.
>
> 1. driveline vibes - transfer case drop or slip yoke eliminator (SYE) & new
> driveshaft
> 2. extended or disconnecting sway bar links.
> 3. steering box brace. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
> 4. adjustable track bar.
> 5 adjustable upper and/or lower control arms.
> 6. fender trimming. (not really needed until you go with 33"+ tires)
>
> The best way to lift is with replacement springs. Spacers are okay in the
> front and you maintain fact ride but cheap alternatives lifting the rear
> will cause premature wear on the factory leaf springs. Lift blocks, short
> add-a-leaf kits and extended shackles will only provide short term
> satisfaction. There are some neat low-buck configurations for lifting the XJ
> rear with full length add-a-leaf kits or custom (DIY) hybrid leaf packs
> using Dakota and Comanche springs etc.
>
> A good resource for lifting your Cherokee http://www.naxja.org/forum/
> There are also countless threads on DIY leaf pack combinations.
>
> I choose a full lift kit from Rusty's for mine... 4.5" on 31" rubber
> http://members.rogers.com/cherokee-ltd/DSC02052.JPG
>
> -Brian
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Re: new jeeper
Just be very careful doing the el-cheapo spacer/shackle lifts. I did that
with my 00 XJ and it caused a number of problems including death wobble,
driveline vibes, etc. And I only went up 2"!!! Make sure to do it right,
if you do it at all.
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-268D28.15383027112004@news.verizon.net...
> I've been coveting Jeeps for about 10 years, and I finally got one
> (mostly because my good'ol '91 Cavalier has blown its second head gasket
> and costs more to fix than it's worth - 182K miles on the factory
> clutch, BTW). It's not the Wrangler I wanted, but it's a Jeep. I just
> picked up a '96 Cherokee Country, 4.0 auto, AC, with 115K miles. No
> off-road package or towing package.
>
> What are the best resources for XJ owners? What's the best place to pick
> up a relatively inexpensive mild lift? What do I need to look out for?
>
> Cheers, y'all.
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
with my 00 XJ and it caused a number of problems including death wobble,
driveline vibes, etc. And I only went up 2"!!! Make sure to do it right,
if you do it at all.
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-268D28.15383027112004@news.verizon.net...
> I've been coveting Jeeps for about 10 years, and I finally got one
> (mostly because my good'ol '91 Cavalier has blown its second head gasket
> and costs more to fix than it's worth - 182K miles on the factory
> clutch, BTW). It's not the Wrangler I wanted, but it's a Jeep. I just
> picked up a '96 Cherokee Country, 4.0 auto, AC, with 115K miles. No
> off-road package or towing package.
>
> What are the best resources for XJ owners? What's the best place to pick
> up a relatively inexpensive mild lift? What do I need to look out for?
>
> Cheers, y'all.
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
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Re: new jeeper
Just be very careful doing the el-cheapo spacer/shackle lifts. I did that
with my 00 XJ and it caused a number of problems including death wobble,
driveline vibes, etc. And I only went up 2"!!! Make sure to do it right,
if you do it at all.
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-268D28.15383027112004@news.verizon.net...
> I've been coveting Jeeps for about 10 years, and I finally got one
> (mostly because my good'ol '91 Cavalier has blown its second head gasket
> and costs more to fix than it's worth - 182K miles on the factory
> clutch, BTW). It's not the Wrangler I wanted, but it's a Jeep. I just
> picked up a '96 Cherokee Country, 4.0 auto, AC, with 115K miles. No
> off-road package or towing package.
>
> What are the best resources for XJ owners? What's the best place to pick
> up a relatively inexpensive mild lift? What do I need to look out for?
>
> Cheers, y'all.
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
with my 00 XJ and it caused a number of problems including death wobble,
driveline vibes, etc. And I only went up 2"!!! Make sure to do it right,
if you do it at all.
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-268D28.15383027112004@news.verizon.net...
> I've been coveting Jeeps for about 10 years, and I finally got one
> (mostly because my good'ol '91 Cavalier has blown its second head gasket
> and costs more to fix than it's worth - 182K miles on the factory
> clutch, BTW). It's not the Wrangler I wanted, but it's a Jeep. I just
> picked up a '96 Cherokee Country, 4.0 auto, AC, with 115K miles. No
> off-road package or towing package.
>
> What are the best resources for XJ owners? What's the best place to pick
> up a relatively inexpensive mild lift? What do I need to look out for?
>
> Cheers, y'all.
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
#19
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Re: new jeeper
Just be very careful doing the el-cheapo spacer/shackle lifts. I did that
with my 00 XJ and it caused a number of problems including death wobble,
driveline vibes, etc. And I only went up 2"!!! Make sure to do it right,
if you do it at all.
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-268D28.15383027112004@news.verizon.net...
> I've been coveting Jeeps for about 10 years, and I finally got one
> (mostly because my good'ol '91 Cavalier has blown its second head gasket
> and costs more to fix than it's worth - 182K miles on the factory
> clutch, BTW). It's not the Wrangler I wanted, but it's a Jeep. I just
> picked up a '96 Cherokee Country, 4.0 auto, AC, with 115K miles. No
> off-road package or towing package.
>
> What are the best resources for XJ owners? What's the best place to pick
> up a relatively inexpensive mild lift? What do I need to look out for?
>
> Cheers, y'all.
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
with my 00 XJ and it caused a number of problems including death wobble,
driveline vibes, etc. And I only went up 2"!!! Make sure to do it right,
if you do it at all.
Eric
99 TJ SE
00 XJ LTD
"Brian" <b_heller@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:b_heller-268D28.15383027112004@news.verizon.net...
> I've been coveting Jeeps for about 10 years, and I finally got one
> (mostly because my good'ol '91 Cavalier has blown its second head gasket
> and costs more to fix than it's worth - 182K miles on the factory
> clutch, BTW). It's not the Wrangler I wanted, but it's a Jeep. I just
> picked up a '96 Cherokee Country, 4.0 auto, AC, with 115K miles. No
> off-road package or towing package.
>
> What are the best resources for XJ owners? What's the best place to pick
> up a relatively inexpensive mild lift? What do I need to look out for?
>
> Cheers, y'all.
>
> --
> Brian Heller
>
> It is easier to tame wild beasts
> than to conquer the human mind.
#20
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Re: new jeeper
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: >
: > Frame parts?
: > Mike, you're confusing your CJ with your XJ!
:
: I thought I have seen massive frame blocks or extensions of some sort
: added for the lower control arms?
:
There are bolt-on and weld-on kits available for LCA's but mostly for long
arm kits.
There are some heavy duty mounting kits available to beef up short arms as
they lighter than 3/16" from factory. If you land hard on a rock, they will
bend.
Frame stiffeners are also available... a rigid link between the LCA frame
mount to the front leaf mount. Designed to prevent or at least reduce twist
but in my opinion, they add stress to the factory parts they are linked to.
Before going this route, you'd want to re-engineer everything else!
Heavy duty steering box brackets and track bar brackets are beneficial in
reducing tear-away from the psuedo-frame.
Lots of add-ons available for XJ's now.
-Brian