Budd Cochran

Ah darn. I forgot about the Honda pacemakers they use which resonate at a
Honda's idle frequency.

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Budd

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0410121916420.9994@alumni.engin .umich.edu...
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Budd Cochran wrote:
>
> > > > Boo! on the V6 replacing the I6; SUV engines ought to have low-end
> > > > grunt. That I6 was an institution, and it deserved to be updated
> > > > rather than discarded.
>
> > > Agreed. I'm sure Car and Driver will cream their jeans about the
> > > "silky-smooth V6" being better than the "agricultural-sounding pushrod
> > > inline 6 it replaces".
>
> > Hmmpf!!! I challenge them to get it to run smoother than a well tuned
> > slant six.
>
> How it runs isn't the issue for the bananaheads in the motoring press.
> Does it sound like a Honda? If yes, praise. If no, make dumb jokes and
> then laugh.

Budd Cochran

Ah darn. I forgot about the Honda pacemakers they use which resonate at a
Honda's idle frequency.

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Budd

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0410121916420.9994@alumni.engin .umich.edu...
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Budd Cochran wrote:
>
> > > > Boo! on the V6 replacing the I6; SUV engines ought to have low-end
> > > > grunt. That I6 was an institution, and it deserved to be updated
> > > > rather than discarded.
>
> > > Agreed. I'm sure Car and Driver will cream their jeans about the
> > > "silky-smooth V6" being better than the "agricultural-sounding pushrod
> > > inline 6 it replaces".
>
> > Hmmpf!!! I challenge them to get it to run smoother than a well tuned
> > slant six.
>
> How it runs isn't the issue for the bananaheads in the motoring press.
> Does it sound like a Honda? If yes, praise. If no, make dumb jokes and
> then laugh.

Budd Cochran

Ah darn. I forgot about the Honda pacemakers they use which resonate at a
Honda's idle frequency.

-
Budd

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.58.0410121916420.9994@alumni.engin .umich.edu...
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Budd Cochran wrote:
>
> > > > Boo! on the V6 replacing the I6; SUV engines ought to have low-end
> > > > grunt. That I6 was an institution, and it deserved to be updated
> > > > rather than discarded.
>
> > > Agreed. I'm sure Car and Driver will cream their jeans about the
> > > "silky-smooth V6" being better than the "agricultural-sounding pushrod
> > > inline 6 it replaces".
>
> > Hmmpf!!! I challenge them to get it to run smoother than a well tuned
> > slant six.
>
> How it runs isn't the issue for the bananaheads in the motoring press.
> Does it sound like a Honda? If yes, praise. If no, make dumb jokes and
> then laugh.

BDK

In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0410121256100.3599@alumni.engin.umi ch.edu>,
dastern@127.0.0.1 says...
>
> Yeah, it's got a Hemi in it. Fine and dandy. Problem is, it's UGGGGGLEE!
> Looks like one of the rejected designs for the new/current Dodge Durango.
> Taillights are the stupid kind and look like the design that almost went
> on the Chevrolet Equinox until someone at Chevrolet said "Clear
> taillights! No! Dude! We TOTALLY have to do clear taillights!"
>
> Ptewph.
>

It's not great, but looks wise, it blows the Durango away, looks wise.
The Dakota too, sadly.

BDK

BDK

In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0410121256100.3599@alumni.engin.umi ch.edu>,
dastern@127.0.0.1 says...
>
> Yeah, it's got a Hemi in it. Fine and dandy. Problem is, it's UGGGGGLEE!
> Looks like one of the rejected designs for the new/current Dodge Durango.
> Taillights are the stupid kind and look like the design that almost went
> on the Chevrolet Equinox until someone at Chevrolet said "Clear
> taillights! No! Dude! We TOTALLY have to do clear taillights!"
>
> Ptewph.
>

It's not great, but looks wise, it blows the Durango away, looks wise.
The Dakota too, sadly.

BDK

BDK

In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0410121256100.3599@alumni.engin.umi ch.edu>,
dastern@127.0.0.1 says...
>
> Yeah, it's got a Hemi in it. Fine and dandy. Problem is, it's UGGGGGLEE!
> Looks like one of the rejected designs for the new/current Dodge Durango.
> Taillights are the stupid kind and look like the design that almost went
> on the Chevrolet Equinox until someone at Chevrolet said "Clear
> taillights! No! Dude! We TOTALLY have to do clear taillights!"
>
> Ptewph.
>

It's not great, but looks wise, it blows the Durango away, looks wise.
The Dakota too, sadly.

BDK

Lon

Geoff proclaimed:

>
> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
>
>>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:56:58 -0400
>>From: Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1>
>>Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.chrysler, alt.autos.dodge.trucks,
>> rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>Subject: New Jeep Grand Chicory
>>
>>
>>Yeah, it's got a Hemi in it. Fine and dandy. Problem is, it's UGGGGGLEE!
>>Looks like one of the rejected designs for the new/current Dodge Durango.
>>Taillights are the stupid kind and look like the design that almost went
>>on the Chevrolet Equinox until someone at Chevrolet said "Clear
>>taillights! No! Dude! We TOTALLY have to do clear taillights!"
>>
>>Ptewph.
>>
>
>
> The ones I've seen on the road have made me think that perhaps they're
> trying to recapture some of the XJ Cherokee's fans. To me it looks
> boxier, and the lines are cleaner and straighter, more reminiscent of
> the XJ than the WJ. This is so especially when viewed from behind.
>
> The wrap-around taillights suck, I agree. OTOH, I like the round
> headlamps and how they integrate the shape into the leading edge of the
> hood.
>
> Boo! on the V6 replacing the I6; SUV engines ought to have low-end
> grunt. That I6 was an institution, and it deserved to be updated rather
> than discarded.

It looks more like a ZJ to me than a WJ.... if a bunch of Mitsu-----
designers got drunk and tried to draw a ZJ you'd pretty much get the
new Grand.

Lon

Geoff proclaimed:

>
> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
>
>>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:56:58 -0400
>>From: Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1>
>>Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.chrysler, alt.autos.dodge.trucks,
>> rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>Subject: New Jeep Grand Chicory
>>
>>
>>Yeah, it's got a Hemi in it. Fine and dandy. Problem is, it's UGGGGGLEE!
>>Looks like one of the rejected designs for the new/current Dodge Durango.
>>Taillights are the stupid kind and look like the design that almost went
>>on the Chevrolet Equinox until someone at Chevrolet said "Clear
>>taillights! No! Dude! We TOTALLY have to do clear taillights!"
>>
>>Ptewph.
>>
>
>
> The ones I've seen on the road have made me think that perhaps they're
> trying to recapture some of the XJ Cherokee's fans. To me it looks
> boxier, and the lines are cleaner and straighter, more reminiscent of
> the XJ than the WJ. This is so especially when viewed from behind.
>
> The wrap-around taillights suck, I agree. OTOH, I like the round
> headlamps and how they integrate the shape into the leading edge of the
> hood.
>
> Boo! on the V6 replacing the I6; SUV engines ought to have low-end
> grunt. That I6 was an institution, and it deserved to be updated rather
> than discarded.

It looks more like a ZJ to me than a WJ.... if a bunch of Mitsu-----
designers got drunk and tried to draw a ZJ you'd pretty much get the
new Grand.

Lon

Geoff proclaimed:

>
> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
>
>>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:56:58 -0400
>>From: Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1>
>>Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.chrysler, alt.autos.dodge.trucks,
>> rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>Subject: New Jeep Grand Chicory
>>
>>
>>Yeah, it's got a Hemi in it. Fine and dandy. Problem is, it's UGGGGGLEE!
>>Looks like one of the rejected designs for the new/current Dodge Durango.
>>Taillights are the stupid kind and look like the design that almost went
>>on the Chevrolet Equinox until someone at Chevrolet said "Clear
>>taillights! No! Dude! We TOTALLY have to do clear taillights!"
>>
>>Ptewph.
>>
>
>
> The ones I've seen on the road have made me think that perhaps they're
> trying to recapture some of the XJ Cherokee's fans. To me it looks
> boxier, and the lines are cleaner and straighter, more reminiscent of
> the XJ than the WJ. This is so especially when viewed from behind.
>
> The wrap-around taillights suck, I agree. OTOH, I like the round
> headlamps and how they integrate the shape into the leading edge of the
> hood.
>
> Boo! on the V6 replacing the I6; SUV engines ought to have low-end
> grunt. That I6 was an institution, and it deserved to be updated rather
> than discarded.

It looks more like a ZJ to me than a WJ.... if a bunch of Mitsu-----
designers got drunk and tried to draw a ZJ you'd pretty much get the
new Grand.

Lon

Daniel J. Stern proclaimed:

> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Geoff wrote:
>
>
>>>Looks like one of the rejected designs for the new/current Dodge Durango.
>>>Taillights are the stupid kind and look like the design that almost went
>>>on the Chevrolet Equinox until someone at Chevrolet said "Clear
>>>taillights! No! Dude! We TOTALLY have to do clear taillights!"
>
>
>>The wrap-around taillights suck, I agree.
>
>
> And they're all red. No amber turn blinker. Suddenly it's 1991...
>
>
>>Boo! on the V6 replacing the I6; SUV engines ought to have low-end
>>grunt. That I6 was an institution, and it deserved to be updated rather
>>than discarded.
>
>
> Agreed. I'm sure Car and Driver will cream their jeans about the
> "silky-smooth V6" being better than the "agricultural-sounding pushrod
> inline 6 it replaces".

I think they are still trying to dry their shorts from testing the
factory streetrod version of the Hemi Grand.