New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.

Two ideas:

a) multiple wrenches,

b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

What kind of filter wrench are you using? I use the type that is a flat
steel band with a handle on the ends. When oriented in the right direction,
yanking on the handle tightens the band around the filter. More yanking,
more tightening. I can't imagine there is a filter that is stuck too much
for this kind of wrench to get it off, though I did break the spot welds off
on the metal strap once. Replaced the welds with some screws and nuts and
it is now better than new.

I'd avoid the "whack it with a screwdriver" technique in case you go through
and score the gasket surface.

I doubt the factory spun it on too tight, the gasket is probably just stuck
after sitting (transport and waiting to be sold) for a long time.

-Fred W

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

What kind of filter wrench are you using? I use the type that is a flat
steel band with a handle on the ends. When oriented in the right direction,
yanking on the handle tightens the band around the filter. More yanking,
more tightening. I can't imagine there is a filter that is stuck too much
for this kind of wrench to get it off, though I did break the spot welds off
on the metal strap once. Replaced the welds with some screws and nuts and
it is now better than new.

I'd avoid the "whack it with a screwdriver" technique in case you go through
and score the gasket surface.

I doubt the factory spun it on too tight, the gasket is probably just stuck
after sitting (transport and waiting to be sold) for a long time.

-Fred W

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

What kind of filter wrench are you using? I use the type that is a flat
steel band with a handle on the ends. When oriented in the right direction,
yanking on the handle tightens the band around the filter. More yanking,
more tightening. I can't imagine there is a filter that is stuck too much
for this kind of wrench to get it off, though I did break the spot welds off
on the metal strap once. Replaced the welds with some screws and nuts and
it is now better than new.

I'd avoid the "whack it with a screwdriver" technique in case you go through
and score the gasket surface.

I doubt the factory spun it on too tight, the gasket is probably just stuck
after sitting (transport and waiting to be sold) for a long time.

-Fred W

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

What kind of filter wrench are you using? I use the type that is a flat
steel band with a handle on the ends. When oriented in the right direction,
yanking on the handle tightens the band around the filter. More yanking,
more tightening. I can't imagine there is a filter that is stuck too much
for this kind of wrench to get it off, though I did break the spot welds off
on the metal strap once. Replaced the welds with some screws and nuts and
it is now better than new.

I'd avoid the "whack it with a screwdriver" technique in case you go through
and score the gasket surface.

I doubt the factory spun it on too tight, the gasket is probably just stuck
after sitting (transport and waiting to be sold) for a long time.

-Fred W

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I think my dad used to use his belt as an oil wrench, seemed to work fine
back then.

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I think my dad used to use his belt as an oil wrench, seemed to work fine
back then.

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I think my dad used to use his belt as an oil wrench, seemed to work fine
back then.

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I think my dad used to use his belt as an oil wrench, seemed to work fine
back then.

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
> Two ideas:
> a) multiple wrenches,
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Last resort: Punch a pry bar through the filter and use that to lever it
loose.

Been there, done that, got the greasy T-shirt.

Jeff

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
> Two ideas:
> a) multiple wrenches,
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Last resort: Punch a pry bar through the filter and use that to lever it
loose.

Been there, done that, got the greasy T-shirt.

Jeff

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
> Two ideas:
> a) multiple wrenches,
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Last resort: Punch a pry bar through the filter and use that to lever it
loose.

Been there, done that, got the greasy T-shirt.

Jeff

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
> Two ideas:
> a) multiple wrenches,
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Last resort: Punch a pry bar through the filter and use that to lever it
loose.

Been there, done that, got the greasy T-shirt.

Jeff

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I feel your pain. First time I tried to remove my filter when I first
took possession of my Jeep I had a similar problem. I'm pretty tall
with long arms, though, and was able to get enough leverage that,
after about my 15th go at it, I finally got it started loosening
(using both hands to try to turn it).

If you simply cannot get in there with enough leverage to do it with
your bare hands, yes, the screwdriver method works; and if you've
already busted it (and it's already spilled oil all over your floor),
I'd say that's probably your best bet.

There is a sort of oil filter "wrench", I believe it's like a bar with
a strap on it or something, made specifically for loosening a stuck
filter. You might look for one of those, too, if you don't want to
stick a screwdriver through the filter. Anyone else on the NG able to
better explain this device? I know it exists, but haven't ever needed
it nor even seen one. Just heard about it.

Good luck!

/Bob


Jean-Paul Lanaux <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet. att.net>...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I feel your pain. First time I tried to remove my filter when I first
took possession of my Jeep I had a similar problem. I'm pretty tall
with long arms, though, and was able to get enough leverage that,
after about my 15th go at it, I finally got it started loosening
(using both hands to try to turn it).

If you simply cannot get in there with enough leverage to do it with
your bare hands, yes, the screwdriver method works; and if you've
already busted it (and it's already spilled oil all over your floor),
I'd say that's probably your best bet.

There is a sort of oil filter "wrench", I believe it's like a bar with
a strap on it or something, made specifically for loosening a stuck
filter. You might look for one of those, too, if you don't want to
stick a screwdriver through the filter. Anyone else on the NG able to
better explain this device? I know it exists, but haven't ever needed
it nor even seen one. Just heard about it.

Good luck!

/Bob


Jean-Paul Lanaux <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet. att.net>...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I feel your pain. First time I tried to remove my filter when I first
took possession of my Jeep I had a similar problem. I'm pretty tall
with long arms, though, and was able to get enough leverage that,
after about my 15th go at it, I finally got it started loosening
(using both hands to try to turn it).

If you simply cannot get in there with enough leverage to do it with
your bare hands, yes, the screwdriver method works; and if you've
already busted it (and it's already spilled oil all over your floor),
I'd say that's probably your best bet.

There is a sort of oil filter "wrench", I believe it's like a bar with
a strap on it or something, made specifically for loosening a stuck
filter. You might look for one of those, too, if you don't want to
stick a screwdriver through the filter. Anyone else on the NG able to
better explain this device? I know it exists, but haven't ever needed
it nor even seen one. Just heard about it.

Good luck!

/Bob


Jean-Paul Lanaux <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet. att.net>...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I feel your pain. First time I tried to remove my filter when I first
took possession of my Jeep I had a similar problem. I'm pretty tall
with long arms, though, and was able to get enough leverage that,
after about my 15th go at it, I finally got it started loosening
(using both hands to try to turn it).

If you simply cannot get in there with enough leverage to do it with
your bare hands, yes, the screwdriver method works; and if you've
already busted it (and it's already spilled oil all over your floor),
I'd say that's probably your best bet.

There is a sort of oil filter "wrench", I believe it's like a bar with
a strap on it or something, made specifically for loosening a stuck
filter. You might look for one of those, too, if you don't want to
stick a screwdriver through the filter. Anyone else on the NG able to
better explain this device? I know it exists, but haven't ever needed
it nor even seen one. Just heard about it.

Good luck!

/Bob


Jean-Paul Lanaux <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet. att.net>...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

a) multiple wrenches,
> >
> > b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> > screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> > at the same time.


Methob "B" works, but I use it as a last resort, as it can damage the
sealing surface if you are not careful.
I use a huge pair of channel-locks for most filters. My favorite special
tool had three arms that squeeze it by the end and will crush it, but always
works. A simple strap-wrench will probably do it, you dont have to by the
plastic one sold by the carpenter, bob villa, use an old serpentine belt,
timing belt, or a piece of tow-strap with a pair of vise-grips.
Jamming a big screwdriver through it is messy, but usually works. If it
doesn't, then your only option is "B".

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

a) multiple wrenches,
> >
> > b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> > screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> > at the same time.


Methob "B" works, but I use it as a last resort, as it can damage the
sealing surface if you are not careful.
I use a huge pair of channel-locks for most filters. My favorite special
tool had three arms that squeeze it by the end and will crush it, but always
works. A simple strap-wrench will probably do it, you dont have to by the
plastic one sold by the carpenter, bob villa, use an old serpentine belt,
timing belt, or a piece of tow-strap with a pair of vise-grips.
Jamming a big screwdriver through it is messy, but usually works. If it
doesn't, then your only option is "B".

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

a) multiple wrenches,
> >
> > b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> > screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> > at the same time.


Methob "B" works, but I use it as a last resort, as it can damage the
sealing surface if you are not careful.
I use a huge pair of channel-locks for most filters. My favorite special
tool had three arms that squeeze it by the end and will crush it, but always
works. A simple strap-wrench will probably do it, you dont have to by the
plastic one sold by the carpenter, bob villa, use an old serpentine belt,
timing belt, or a piece of tow-strap with a pair of vise-grips.
Jamming a big screwdriver through it is messy, but usually works. If it
doesn't, then your only option is "B".

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

a) multiple wrenches,
> >
> > b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> > screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> > at the same time.


Methob "B" works, but I use it as a last resort, as it can damage the
sealing surface if you are not careful.
I use a huge pair of channel-locks for most filters. My favorite special
tool had three arms that squeeze it by the end and will crush it, but always
works. A simple strap-wrench will probably do it, you dont have to by the
plastic one sold by the carpenter, bob villa, use an old serpentine belt,
timing belt, or a piece of tow-strap with a pair of vise-grips.
Jamming a big screwdriver through it is messy, but usually works. If it
doesn't, then your only option is "B".

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

Just as Paul sugests, use a big pair of channel lock pliers, or refered as
water pump pliers, I had to use them on a Ford Escort for the first oil change,
the oil filter on your Wrangler is a lot easier to get to than the escort....


Kevin in Iowa
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/lwb/kevinxj/index.html

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

Just as Paul sugests, use a big pair of channel lock pliers, or refered as
water pump pliers, I had to use them on a Ford Escort for the first oil change,
the oil filter on your Wrangler is a lot easier to get to than the escort....


Kevin in Iowa
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/lwb/kevinxj/index.html

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

Just as Paul sugests, use a big pair of channel lock pliers, or refered as
water pump pliers, I had to use them on a Ford Escort for the first oil change,
the oil filter on your Wrangler is a lot easier to get to than the escort....


Kevin in Iowa
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/lwb/kevinxj/index.html

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

Just as Paul sugests, use a big pair of channel lock pliers, or refered as
water pump pliers, I had to use them on a Ford Escort for the first oil change,
the oil filter on your Wrangler is a lot easier to get to than the escort....


Kevin in Iowa
http://7slotgrille.com/jeepers/lwb/kevinxj/index.html

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

You think the TJ is bad, try changing the oil on a Libby. Some engineer got
a huge bonus for the placement of that oil filter.
It took me almost 2 hours to change the oil in my wife's Libby. I did not
have any problems changing the oil in my 02 TJ the first time. I also have a
really cool wrench that my Dad gave me. It is kind of a "claw" looking
wrench. Best oil filter removal tool I have ever used.
You can see it here.
http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/Oil_filter_wrench.htm

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

You think the TJ is bad, try changing the oil on a Libby. Some engineer got
a huge bonus for the placement of that oil filter.
It took me almost 2 hours to change the oil in my wife's Libby. I did not
have any problems changing the oil in my 02 TJ the first time. I also have a
really cool wrench that my Dad gave me. It is kind of a "claw" looking
wrench. Best oil filter removal tool I have ever used.
You can see it here.
http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/Oil_filter_wrench.htm

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

You think the TJ is bad, try changing the oil on a Libby. Some engineer got
a huge bonus for the placement of that oil filter.
It took me almost 2 hours to change the oil in my wife's Libby. I did not
have any problems changing the oil in my 02 TJ the first time. I also have a
really cool wrench that my Dad gave me. It is kind of a "claw" looking
wrench. Best oil filter removal tool I have ever used.
You can see it here.
http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/Oil_filter_wrench.htm

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

You think the TJ is bad, try changing the oil on a Libby. Some engineer got
a huge bonus for the placement of that oil filter.
It took me almost 2 hours to change the oil in my wife's Libby. I did not
have any problems changing the oil in my 02 TJ the first time. I also have a
really cool wrench that my Dad gave me. It is kind of a "claw" looking
wrench. Best oil filter removal tool I have ever used.
You can see it here.
http://home.nc.rr.com/thegavettes/Oil_filter_wrench.htm

"Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
>
> Two ideas:
>
> a) multiple wrenches,
>
> b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> at the same time.

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I would laugh but the samething happened to me. The factory oil
filter must have been put on with an air gun! They did not oil the
the gasket or read the instructions on the filter!
Here are some tips:
1) If the filter is still on you could drill a hole through it and
insert a big screw driver.

2) Make sure you are using a good oil filter remover and not a cheap
platic tool, it should be made out of metal. Try a new type of
remover

3) I got mine of by using a "Boa" tool from Canadian Tire - it is a
long thick rubber band with a plastic handle. I wrapped it around the
filter and it had enough grip to get it off.

Hey where do you live?

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I would laugh but the samething happened to me. The factory oil
filter must have been put on with an air gun! They did not oil the
the gasket or read the instructions on the filter!
Here are some tips:
1) If the filter is still on you could drill a hole through it and
insert a big screw driver.

2) Make sure you are using a good oil filter remover and not a cheap
platic tool, it should be made out of metal. Try a new type of
remover

3) I got mine of by using a "Boa" tool from Canadian Tire - it is a
long thick rubber band with a plastic handle. I wrapped it around the
filter and it had enough grip to get it off.

Hey where do you live?

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I would laugh but the samething happened to me. The factory oil
filter must have been put on with an air gun! They did not oil the
the gasket or read the instructions on the filter!
Here are some tips:
1) If the filter is still on you could drill a hole through it and
insert a big screw driver.

2) Make sure you are using a good oil filter remover and not a cheap
platic tool, it should be made out of metal. Try a new type of
remover

3) I got mine of by using a "Boa" tool from Canadian Tire - it is a
long thick rubber band with a plastic handle. I wrapped it around the
filter and it had enough grip to get it off.

Hey where do you live?

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I would laugh but the samething happened to me. The factory oil
filter must have been put on with an air gun! They did not oil the
the gasket or read the instructions on the filter!
Here are some tips:
1) If the filter is still on you could drill a hole through it and
insert a big screw driver.

2) Make sure you are using a good oil filter remover and not a cheap
platic tool, it should be made out of metal. Try a new type of
remover

3) I got mine of by using a "Boa" tool from Canadian Tire - it is a
long thick rubber band with a plastic handle. I wrapped it around the
filter and it had enough grip to get it off.

Hey where do you live?

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

1, Large Strap Wrench
2. Cold chisel on the "rolled rim" of the filter body. Keep hammering
in the direction you want it to turn.

In article <siMmc.25985$L8.9755@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>, Jeff Lowe
<jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote:

> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> > have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> > too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> > unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> > google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
> > Two ideas:
> > a) multiple wrenches,
> > b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> > screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> > at the same time.
>
> Last resort: Punch a pry bar through the filter and use that to lever it
> loose.
>
> Been there, done that, got the greasy T-shirt.
>
> Jeff
>
>

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

1, Large Strap Wrench
2. Cold chisel on the "rolled rim" of the filter body. Keep hammering
in the direction you want it to turn.

In article <siMmc.25985$L8.9755@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>, Jeff Lowe
<jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote:

> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> > have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> > too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> > unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> > google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
> > Two ideas:
> > a) multiple wrenches,
> > b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> > screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> > at the same time.
>
> Last resort: Punch a pry bar through the filter and use that to lever it
> loose.
>
> Been there, done that, got the greasy T-shirt.
>
> Jeff
>
>

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

1, Large Strap Wrench
2. Cold chisel on the "rolled rim" of the filter body. Keep hammering
in the direction you want it to turn.

In article <siMmc.25985$L8.9755@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>, Jeff Lowe
<jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote:

> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> > have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> > too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> > unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> > google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
> > Two ideas:
> > a) multiple wrenches,
> > b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> > screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> > at the same time.
>
> Last resort: Punch a pry bar through the filter and use that to lever it
> loose.
>
> Been there, done that, got the greasy T-shirt.
>
> Jeff
>
>

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

1, Large Strap Wrench
2. Cold chisel on the "rolled rim" of the filter body. Keep hammering
in the direction you want it to turn.

In article <siMmc.25985$L8.9755@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>, Jeff Lowe
<jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote:

> "Jean-Paul Lanaux" <jpl@jplanaux.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1b050a564d5c9fe3989688@netnews.worldnet.a tt.net...
> > I am attempting my first oil filter change in my 04 Wrangler. Luckily I
> > have a spare auto. I crushed the filter, the factory spun the filter on
> > too tight. Does any reader out there have any magic tricks for this
> > unlucky guy on how to best remove the filter? I scowered the net using
> > google and was surprised to see that there is no info on this topic.
> > Two ideas:
> > a) multiple wrenches,
> > b) someone suggested a screwdriver with a hammer, tapping the
> > screwdriver blade into the lip which would dig in and cause it to turn
> > at the same time.
>
> Last resort: Punch a pry bar through the filter and use that to lever it
> loose.
>
> Been there, done that, got the greasy T-shirt.
>
> Jeff
>
>

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I am in Destrehan Louisiana. I will make another trip to the auto parts
and look for a better strap wrench and attempt some of these ideas this
weekend. I might even invite the wife to climb under the jeep tommorrow.
That will be the day....

In article <72ce17be.0405070935.c38adec@posting.google.com> ,
snowboardripper@hotmail.com says...
> I would laugh but the samething happened to me. The factory oil
> filter must have been put on with an air gun! They did not oil the
> the gasket or read the instructions on the filter!
> Here are some tips:
> 1) If the filter is still on you could drill a hole through it and
> insert a big screw driver.
>
> 2) Make sure you are using a good oil filter remover and not a cheap
> platic tool, it should be made out of metal. Try a new type of
> remover
>
> 3) I got mine of by using a "Boa" tool from Canadian Tire - it is a
> long thick rubber band with a plastic handle. I wrapped it around the
> filter and it had enough grip to get it off.
>
> Hey where do you live?
>

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I am in Destrehan Louisiana. I will make another trip to the auto parts
and look for a better strap wrench and attempt some of these ideas this
weekend. I might even invite the wife to climb under the jeep tommorrow.
That will be the day....

In article <72ce17be.0405070935.c38adec@posting.google.com> ,
snowboardripper@hotmail.com says...
> I would laugh but the samething happened to me. The factory oil
> filter must have been put on with an air gun! They did not oil the
> the gasket or read the instructions on the filter!
> Here are some tips:
> 1) If the filter is still on you could drill a hole through it and
> insert a big screw driver.
>
> 2) Make sure you are using a good oil filter remover and not a cheap
> platic tool, it should be made out of metal. Try a new type of
> remover
>
> 3) I got mine of by using a "Boa" tool from Canadian Tire - it is a
> long thick rubber band with a plastic handle. I wrapped it around the
> filter and it had enough grip to get it off.
>
> Hey where do you live?
>

Re: New jeep - first oil filter change - filter stuck & crushed
 

I am in Destrehan Louisiana. I will make another trip to the auto parts
and look for a better strap wrench and attempt some of these ideas this
weekend. I might even invite the wife to climb under the jeep tommorrow.
That will be the day....

In article <72ce17be.0405070935.c38adec@posting.google.com> ,
snowboardripper@hotmail.com says...
> I would laugh but the samething happened to me. The factory oil
> filter must have been put on with an air gun! They did not oil the
> the gasket or read the instructions on the filter!
> Here are some tips:
> 1) If the filter is still on you could drill a hole through it and
> insert a big screw driver.
>
> 2) Make sure you are using a good oil filter remover and not a cheap
> platic tool, it should be made out of metal. Try a new type of
> remover
>
> 3) I got mine of by using a "Boa" tool from Canadian Tire - it is a
> long thick rubber band with a plastic handle. I wrapped it around the
> filter and it had enough grip to get it off.
>
> Hey where do you live?
>