New Jeep
#1
Guest
Posts: n/a
New Jeep
Hi all,
Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it. Do
you do any extreme wheeling? What are the pros / cons that you have found?
I'm not a new Jeeper ('94 YJ, '01 TJ, '84 FSJ), but I find myself Jeepless,
as I currently am in the UK My desire is to prep a rig for when I head back
to the US (6 months to a year). I have been contemplating a '04 TJ Rubicon,
but with the cost being what it is I have visions of getting a lesser Jeep
and having it built as I want it (I would like to do the build, but I simply
can't).
So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ and then put on the Dana 60
w/ lockers / Atlas II t-case / NV-4500? I know what I would add is a bit
stronger than what a Rubicon offers, but......
Thoughts?
-- Joe
Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it. Do
you do any extreme wheeling? What are the pros / cons that you have found?
I'm not a new Jeeper ('94 YJ, '01 TJ, '84 FSJ), but I find myself Jeepless,
as I currently am in the UK My desire is to prep a rig for when I head back
to the US (6 months to a year). I have been contemplating a '04 TJ Rubicon,
but with the cost being what it is I have visions of getting a lesser Jeep
and having it built as I want it (I would like to do the build, but I simply
can't).
So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ and then put on the Dana 60
w/ lockers / Atlas II t-case / NV-4500? I know what I would add is a bit
stronger than what a Rubicon offers, but......
Thoughts?
-- Joe
#2
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
"Who, me?" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
news:3f6e3c4a_2@news.athenanews.com...
> Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it.
i couldnt be happier. ok, thats not entirely true.....i _hate_ the new
"high back" seats and id love a v8 option but other than that my '03 fits my
needs perfectly.
> What are the pros / cons that you have found?
the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when you
need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there are
times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft. fisher
(http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range is to
high, but low range is a little bit to low.
> So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ
i dont consider other tj's to be "lesser", theyre all great! the rubicon
just has a few really cool toys.
> Thoughts?
it really depends on what your needs and capabilities are. if youre going
to have to pay others to mod your jeep i guarantee you that youll end up
paying far more for a truly comparable jeep than if you just bought a
rubicon to start with. an old man told me once that if you buy a new
vehicle and then replace everything on it (front/rear end, transfer case,
etc) then you bought the wrong vehicle. seems like that could surely apply
here.
on the other hand there is a lot to be said of building your own jeep,
assuming you have the money, tools, and skills required to do it right. i
could have bought another tj and modded it piece by piece, but now i have no
regrets about getting the rubicon to start with. i can now focus on all the
little cool mods (bumpers/cage/winch/maybe lift) instead of doing the basics
first (drivetrain, lockers, etc).
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:3f6e3c4a_2@news.athenanews.com...
> Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it.
i couldnt be happier. ok, thats not entirely true.....i _hate_ the new
"high back" seats and id love a v8 option but other than that my '03 fits my
needs perfectly.
> What are the pros / cons that you have found?
the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when you
need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there are
times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft. fisher
(http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range is to
high, but low range is a little bit to low.
> So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ
i dont consider other tj's to be "lesser", theyre all great! the rubicon
just has a few really cool toys.
> Thoughts?
it really depends on what your needs and capabilities are. if youre going
to have to pay others to mod your jeep i guarantee you that youll end up
paying far more for a truly comparable jeep than if you just bought a
rubicon to start with. an old man told me once that if you buy a new
vehicle and then replace everything on it (front/rear end, transfer case,
etc) then you bought the wrong vehicle. seems like that could surely apply
here.
on the other hand there is a lot to be said of building your own jeep,
assuming you have the money, tools, and skills required to do it right. i
could have bought another tj and modded it piece by piece, but now i have no
regrets about getting the rubicon to start with. i can now focus on all the
little cool mods (bumpers/cage/winch/maybe lift) instead of doing the basics
first (drivetrain, lockers, etc).
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
#3
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
"Who, me?" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
news:3f6e3c4a_2@news.athenanews.com...
> Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it.
i couldnt be happier. ok, thats not entirely true.....i _hate_ the new
"high back" seats and id love a v8 option but other than that my '03 fits my
needs perfectly.
> What are the pros / cons that you have found?
the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when you
need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there are
times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft. fisher
(http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range is to
high, but low range is a little bit to low.
> So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ
i dont consider other tj's to be "lesser", theyre all great! the rubicon
just has a few really cool toys.
> Thoughts?
it really depends on what your needs and capabilities are. if youre going
to have to pay others to mod your jeep i guarantee you that youll end up
paying far more for a truly comparable jeep than if you just bought a
rubicon to start with. an old man told me once that if you buy a new
vehicle and then replace everything on it (front/rear end, transfer case,
etc) then you bought the wrong vehicle. seems like that could surely apply
here.
on the other hand there is a lot to be said of building your own jeep,
assuming you have the money, tools, and skills required to do it right. i
could have bought another tj and modded it piece by piece, but now i have no
regrets about getting the rubicon to start with. i can now focus on all the
little cool mods (bumpers/cage/winch/maybe lift) instead of doing the basics
first (drivetrain, lockers, etc).
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:3f6e3c4a_2@news.athenanews.com...
> Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it.
i couldnt be happier. ok, thats not entirely true.....i _hate_ the new
"high back" seats and id love a v8 option but other than that my '03 fits my
needs perfectly.
> What are the pros / cons that you have found?
the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when you
need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there are
times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft. fisher
(http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range is to
high, but low range is a little bit to low.
> So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ
i dont consider other tj's to be "lesser", theyre all great! the rubicon
just has a few really cool toys.
> Thoughts?
it really depends on what your needs and capabilities are. if youre going
to have to pay others to mod your jeep i guarantee you that youll end up
paying far more for a truly comparable jeep than if you just bought a
rubicon to start with. an old man told me once that if you buy a new
vehicle and then replace everything on it (front/rear end, transfer case,
etc) then you bought the wrong vehicle. seems like that could surely apply
here.
on the other hand there is a lot to be said of building your own jeep,
assuming you have the money, tools, and skills required to do it right. i
could have bought another tj and modded it piece by piece, but now i have no
regrets about getting the rubicon to start with. i can now focus on all the
little cool mods (bumpers/cage/winch/maybe lift) instead of doing the basics
first (drivetrain, lockers, etc).
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
#4
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
I've got one. I dunno about "extreme" but I do wheel it. The only thing they
dropped the ball on (imho) is the t-case skid. It hangs too low. I think
it's to accomodate the auto tranny, but the 5 speed doesn't need it. I'm
getting ready to take care of the skid soon so it won't be an issue much
longer.
If I had the same amount of cash that I bought my Rubi for, I may have
bought a used TJ and the components to build it up... But I don't regret the
Rubi purchase for a second.
Shop around... Not everyone is paying $30K+ for their Rubi. Trust me.
td
"Who, me?" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
news:3f6e3c4a_2@news.athenanews.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it.
Do
> you do any extreme wheeling? What are the pros / cons that you have
found?
>
> I'm not a new Jeeper ('94 YJ, '01 TJ, '84 FSJ), but I find myself
Jeepless,
> as I currently am in the UK My desire is to prep a rig for when I head
back
> to the US (6 months to a year). I have been contemplating a '04 TJ
Rubicon,
> but with the cost being what it is I have visions of getting a lesser Jeep
> and having it built as I want it (I would like to do the build, but I
simply
> can't).
>
> So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ and then put on the Dana 60
> w/ lockers / Atlas II t-case / NV-4500? I know what I would add is a bit
> stronger than what a Rubicon offers, but......
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -- Joe
>
>
dropped the ball on (imho) is the t-case skid. It hangs too low. I think
it's to accomodate the auto tranny, but the 5 speed doesn't need it. I'm
getting ready to take care of the skid soon so it won't be an issue much
longer.
If I had the same amount of cash that I bought my Rubi for, I may have
bought a used TJ and the components to build it up... But I don't regret the
Rubi purchase for a second.
Shop around... Not everyone is paying $30K+ for their Rubi. Trust me.
td
"Who, me?" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
news:3f6e3c4a_2@news.athenanews.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it.
Do
> you do any extreme wheeling? What are the pros / cons that you have
found?
>
> I'm not a new Jeeper ('94 YJ, '01 TJ, '84 FSJ), but I find myself
Jeepless,
> as I currently am in the UK My desire is to prep a rig for when I head
back
> to the US (6 months to a year). I have been contemplating a '04 TJ
Rubicon,
> but with the cost being what it is I have visions of getting a lesser Jeep
> and having it built as I want it (I would like to do the build, but I
simply
> can't).
>
> So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ and then put on the Dana 60
> w/ lockers / Atlas II t-case / NV-4500? I know what I would add is a bit
> stronger than what a Rubicon offers, but......
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -- Joe
>
>
#5
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
I've got one. I dunno about "extreme" but I do wheel it. The only thing they
dropped the ball on (imho) is the t-case skid. It hangs too low. I think
it's to accomodate the auto tranny, but the 5 speed doesn't need it. I'm
getting ready to take care of the skid soon so it won't be an issue much
longer.
If I had the same amount of cash that I bought my Rubi for, I may have
bought a used TJ and the components to build it up... But I don't regret the
Rubi purchase for a second.
Shop around... Not everyone is paying $30K+ for their Rubi. Trust me.
td
"Who, me?" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
news:3f6e3c4a_2@news.athenanews.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it.
Do
> you do any extreme wheeling? What are the pros / cons that you have
found?
>
> I'm not a new Jeeper ('94 YJ, '01 TJ, '84 FSJ), but I find myself
Jeepless,
> as I currently am in the UK My desire is to prep a rig for when I head
back
> to the US (6 months to a year). I have been contemplating a '04 TJ
Rubicon,
> but with the cost being what it is I have visions of getting a lesser Jeep
> and having it built as I want it (I would like to do the build, but I
simply
> can't).
>
> So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ and then put on the Dana 60
> w/ lockers / Atlas II t-case / NV-4500? I know what I would add is a bit
> stronger than what a Rubicon offers, but......
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -- Joe
>
>
dropped the ball on (imho) is the t-case skid. It hangs too low. I think
it's to accomodate the auto tranny, but the 5 speed doesn't need it. I'm
getting ready to take care of the skid soon so it won't be an issue much
longer.
If I had the same amount of cash that I bought my Rubi for, I may have
bought a used TJ and the components to build it up... But I don't regret the
Rubi purchase for a second.
Shop around... Not everyone is paying $30K+ for their Rubi. Trust me.
td
"Who, me?" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
news:3f6e3c4a_2@news.athenanews.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Just curious if anyone out there own a Rubicon and what you think of it.
Do
> you do any extreme wheeling? What are the pros / cons that you have
found?
>
> I'm not a new Jeeper ('94 YJ, '01 TJ, '84 FSJ), but I find myself
Jeepless,
> as I currently am in the UK My desire is to prep a rig for when I head
back
> to the US (6 months to a year). I have been contemplating a '04 TJ
Rubicon,
> but with the cost being what it is I have visions of getting a lesser Jeep
> and having it built as I want it (I would like to do the build, but I
simply
> can't).
>
> So, would you get a Rubicon or get a lesser TJ and then put on the Dana 60
> w/ lockers / Atlas II t-case / NV-4500? I know what I would add is a bit
> stronger than what a Rubicon offers, but......
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -- Joe
>
>
#6
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
> the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when
you
> need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
> wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there are
> times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft.
fisher
> (http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range is
to
> high, but low range is a little bit to low.
Nathan,
If you're in the sand, can't you just stick to 4th and 5th? Should be
close to 1st and 2nd gears with a 2.72 transfer case.
- Pablo
you
> need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
> wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there are
> times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft.
fisher
> (http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range is
to
> high, but low range is a little bit to low.
Nathan,
If you're in the sand, can't you just stick to 4th and 5th? Should be
close to 1st and 2nd gears with a 2.72 transfer case.
- Pablo
#7
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
> the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when
you
> need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
> wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there are
> times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft.
fisher
> (http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range is
to
> high, but low range is a little bit to low.
Nathan,
If you're in the sand, can't you just stick to 4th and 5th? Should be
close to 1st and 2nd gears with a 2.72 transfer case.
- Pablo
you
> need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
> wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there are
> times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft.
fisher
> (http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range is
to
> high, but low range is a little bit to low.
Nathan,
If you're in the sand, can't you just stick to 4th and 5th? Should be
close to 1st and 2nd gears with a 2.72 transfer case.
- Pablo
#8
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
"Pablo Riofrío G." <priofrio@uio.satnet.net> wrote in message
news:vmslmvk340ccad@news.supernews.com...
> > the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when
> you
> > need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
> > wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there
are
> > times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft.
> fisher
> > (http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range
is
> to
> > high, but low range is a little bit to low.
>
> Nathan,
>
> If you're in the sand, can't you just stick to 4th and 5th? Should be
> close to 1st and 2nd gears with a 2.72 transfer case.
Doing so would have the 4:1 transfer case gears screaming at such high rpms
that it's bad for them.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
news:vmslmvk340ccad@news.supernews.com...
> > the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when
> you
> > need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
> > wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there
are
> > times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft.
> fisher
> > (http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range
is
> to
> > high, but low range is a little bit to low.
>
> Nathan,
>
> If you're in the sand, can't you just stick to 4th and 5th? Should be
> close to 1st and 2nd gears with a 2.72 transfer case.
Doing so would have the 4:1 transfer case gears screaming at such high rpms
that it's bad for them.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
"Pablo Riofrío G." <priofrio@uio.satnet.net> wrote in message
news:vmslmvk340ccad@news.supernews.com...
> > the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when
> you
> > need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
> > wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there
are
> > times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft.
> fisher
> > (http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range
is
> to
> > high, but low range is a little bit to low.
>
> Nathan,
>
> If you're in the sand, can't you just stick to 4th and 5th? Should be
> close to 1st and 2nd gears with a 2.72 transfer case.
Doing so would have the 4:1 transfer case gears screaming at such high rpms
that it's bad for them.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
news:vmslmvk340ccad@news.supernews.com...
> > the 4 to 1 is great for rock crawling, not so great for other times when
> you
> > need low range. i find its actually to low for several situations. i
> > wouldnt trade it for a standard 2.79 to 1 dont get me wrong, but there
are
> > times when i wish it wasnt so low. the really bottomless sand at ft.
> fisher
> > (http://7slotgrille.com/beach) is a perfect example of when high range
is
> to
> > high, but low range is a little bit to low.
>
> Nathan,
>
> If you're in the sand, can't you just stick to 4th and 5th? Should be
> close to 1st and 2nd gears with a 2.72 transfer case.
Doing so would have the 4:1 transfer case gears screaming at such high rpms
that it's bad for them.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New Jeep
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:gXsbb.5891$gv5.4480@fed1read05...
> Doing so would have the 4:1 transfer case gears screaming at such high
rpms
> that it's bad for them.
sounds almost like you gotta blower running under your seat.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:gXsbb.5891$gv5.4480@fed1read05...
> Doing so would have the 4:1 transfer case gears screaming at such high
rpms
> that it's bad for them.
sounds almost like you gotta blower running under your seat.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com