New Commander is UGLY
09-21-2005, 08:22 PM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
There are plenty of 2000 and 2001 XJs with low miles out there looking for
new homes.
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"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, I think it's the Mitsubishi guys they hired. After all, the
> new GC looks just like an Endeavor and the Commander looks like a
> Montero on steroids. Heck, even the liberty looks like an overgrown
> Suzuki Vitara. Definite Japanese influence in the designs methinks.
>
> No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
> go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
> (Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it? You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers
> (TJs excepted).
>
> On another note - that new Ralleye looks like what the XJ should have
> morphed into instead of that (*%%$%^ Liberty. (I know, I know, the
> Ralleye is really a car, but I'm only talking style here.)
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>> I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The
>> GC
>> rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain
>> ugly.
>> Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>> hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous.
>> The
>> pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in
>> the
>> interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>>
new homes.
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"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, I think it's the Mitsubishi guys they hired. After all, the
> new GC looks just like an Endeavor and the Commander looks like a
> Montero on steroids. Heck, even the liberty looks like an overgrown
> Suzuki Vitara. Definite Japanese influence in the designs methinks.
>
> No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
> go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
> (Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it? You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers
> (TJs excepted).
>
> On another note - that new Ralleye looks like what the XJ should have
> morphed into instead of that (*%%$%^ Liberty. (I know, I know, the
> Ralleye is really a car, but I'm only talking style here.)
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>> I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The
>> GC
>> rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain
>> ugly.
>> Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>> hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous.
>> The
>> pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in
>> the
>> interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>>
09-21-2005, 08:22 PM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
There are plenty of 2000 and 2001 XJs with low miles out there looking for
new homes.
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"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, I think it's the Mitsubishi guys they hired. After all, the
> new GC looks just like an Endeavor and the Commander looks like a
> Montero on steroids. Heck, even the liberty looks like an overgrown
> Suzuki Vitara. Definite Japanese influence in the designs methinks.
>
> No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
> go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
> (Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it? You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers
> (TJs excepted).
>
> On another note - that new Ralleye looks like what the XJ should have
> morphed into instead of that (*%%$%^ Liberty. (I know, I know, the
> Ralleye is really a car, but I'm only talking style here.)
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>> I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The
>> GC
>> rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain
>> ugly.
>> Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>> hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous.
>> The
>> pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in
>> the
>> interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>>
new homes.
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"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, I think it's the Mitsubishi guys they hired. After all, the
> new GC looks just like an Endeavor and the Commander looks like a
> Montero on steroids. Heck, even the liberty looks like an overgrown
> Suzuki Vitara. Definite Japanese influence in the designs methinks.
>
> No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
> go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
> (Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it? You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers
> (TJs excepted).
>
> On another note - that new Ralleye looks like what the XJ should have
> morphed into instead of that (*%%$%^ Liberty. (I know, I know, the
> Ralleye is really a car, but I'm only talking style here.)
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>> I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The
>> GC
>> rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain
>> ugly.
>> Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>> hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous.
>> The
>> pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in
>> the
>> interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>>
09-21-2005, 08:22 PM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
There are plenty of 2000 and 2001 XJs with low miles out there looking for
new homes.
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"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, I think it's the Mitsubishi guys they hired. After all, the
> new GC looks just like an Endeavor and the Commander looks like a
> Montero on steroids. Heck, even the liberty looks like an overgrown
> Suzuki Vitara. Definite Japanese influence in the designs methinks.
>
> No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
> go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
> (Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it? You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers
> (TJs excepted).
>
> On another note - that new Ralleye looks like what the XJ should have
> morphed into instead of that (*%%$%^ Liberty. (I know, I know, the
> Ralleye is really a car, but I'm only talking style here.)
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>> I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The
>> GC
>> rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain
>> ugly.
>> Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>> hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous.
>> The
>> pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in
>> the
>> interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>>
new homes.
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"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:8075c$4331e743$45490842$14026@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Actually, I think it's the Mitsubishi guys they hired. After all, the
> new GC looks just like an Endeavor and the Commander looks like a
> Montero on steroids. Heck, even the liberty looks like an overgrown
> Suzuki Vitara. Definite Japanese influence in the designs methinks.
>
> No matter anyway, after they kill the TJ next year and the solid axles
> go the way of the I6, there won't be any new Jeeps in my future.
> (Unless a diesel TJ is in the works.)
>
> Instead of replacing your XJ, why not find one of those places that will
> refurb it? You could drop 15k into any old XJ and make it better than
> new. You'd be a lot better off than with anything Jeep currently offers
> (TJs excepted).
>
> On another note - that new Ralleye looks like what the XJ should have
> morphed into instead of that (*%%$%^ Liberty. (I know, I know, the
> Ralleye is really a car, but I'm only talking style here.)
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
>> I'm shopping to replace my ancient XJ. The liberty doesn't cut it. The
>> GC
>> rear cargo isn't 'tall enough'. But the new Commander is just plain
>> ugly.
>> Looks like the idiots that designed the avalanche and the aztec must've
>> hired on at DC. The visibility from the interior is just horrendous.
>> The
>> pillars are HUGE and block way too much visibility. And the plastic in
>> the
>> interior is way to cheap/flimsy. Damn shame the stopped making the XJ.
>>
09-22-2005, 03:18 AM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
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>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >
> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> > n.
Dave Milne, Scotland
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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >
> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> > n.
09-22-2005, 03:18 AM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >
> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> > n.
Dave Milne, Scotland
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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >
> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> > n.
09-22-2005, 03:18 AM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >
> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> > n.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >
> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> > n.
09-22-2005, 03:30 AM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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>> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >
>> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> > n.
>
>
6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >
>> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> > n.
>
>
09-22-2005, 03:30 AM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >
>> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> > n.
>
>
6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >
>> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> > n.
>
>
09-22-2005, 03:30 AM
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Re: New Commander is UGLY
3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >
>> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> > n.
>
>
6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
>> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >
>> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
>> > n.
>
>
09-22-2005, 03:50 AM
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aha that's more like it !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
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> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> >> > n.
> >
> >
>
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> 3500# for the V-6 with 525# tongue weight
> 6500# for the V-8 with 750# tongue weight
> 7200# for the Hemi with 750# tongue weight
> --
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> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> > towing capacity for the Commander is only 3500 lb ?
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4331F266.11B8D3B2@***.net...
> >> http://motortrend.com/autoshows/cove...yas_commander/
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Nathan Otis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You mean 2007? Cause my neighbor just bought a 2006 Unlimited Rubi.
> >> > n.
> >
> >
>
>