new clutch time for the CJ
 

Last night I took off from an intersection quick and the engine spun fast,
and the jeep moved slow. On a quiet street I could hear the metal on metal
sound of a thin clutch plate. The adjustment still feels perfect, so it is
new clutch time for me. Question is should I spend a little extra for a
name brand CenterForce I clutch for the ~$130 plus extra parts? How about
the CenterForce II for ~$200 plus extra parts? Or should I get one from a
local parts store for ~$130 that include all the parts including bearings,
and cheapy tool? I am have the 258 engine, T5, D300, 32" tires (soon to be
33"), and 4.10 gears in an 83 CJ7. Can I get better life expectance out of
a little better clutch? Or is the basic CenterForce the same as any other
over-the-counter clutch?

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

>Can I get better life expectance out of
>a little better clutch?

Maybe, maybe not. I ran a CenterForce clutch once. Didn't really like the
pedal feel offroad, and changed it out for a "regular" clutch last year when I
had to replace the throwout bearing. No regrets so far.

Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

>Can I get better life expectance out of
>a little better clutch?

Maybe, maybe not. I ran a CenterForce clutch once. Didn't really like the
pedal feel offroad, and changed it out for a "regular" clutch last year when I
had to replace the throwout bearing. No regrets so far.

Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

>Can I get better life expectance out of
>a little better clutch?

Maybe, maybe not. I ran a CenterForce clutch once. Didn't really like the
pedal feel offroad, and changed it out for a "regular" clutch last year when I
had to replace the throwout bearing. No regrets so far.

Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

The borg warner T5 clutch is the best in my mind. They put it behind
the Mustang V8's and it grabs nice with the foot pressure you are used
to.

A centerforce clutch, while it does grab nice needs over 100 lb on the
pedal to push it down! My wife needed to pull up on the steering wheel
even to get the bugger down.

It would be great for a hydraulic setup though.

I broke my centerforce pressure plate and went back to the old borg
warner pressure plate I took out and love it.

I learned....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Fletcher wrote:
>
> Last night I took off from an intersection quick and the engine spun fast,
> and the jeep moved slow. On a quiet street I could hear the metal on metal
> sound of a thin clutch plate. The adjustment still feels perfect, so it is
> new clutch time for me. Question is should I spend a little extra for a
> name brand CenterForce I clutch for the ~$130 plus extra parts? How about
> the CenterForce II for ~$200 plus extra parts? Or should I get one from a
> local parts store for ~$130 that include all the parts including bearings,
> and cheapy tool? I am have the 258 engine, T5, D300, 32" tires (soon to be
> 33"), and 4.10 gears in an 83 CJ7. Can I get better life expectance out of
> a little better clutch? Or is the basic CenterForce the same as any other
> over-the-counter clutch?

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

The borg warner T5 clutch is the best in my mind. They put it behind
the Mustang V8's and it grabs nice with the foot pressure you are used
to.

A centerforce clutch, while it does grab nice needs over 100 lb on the
pedal to push it down! My wife needed to pull up on the steering wheel
even to get the bugger down.

It would be great for a hydraulic setup though.

I broke my centerforce pressure plate and went back to the old borg
warner pressure plate I took out and love it.

I learned....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Fletcher wrote:
>
> Last night I took off from an intersection quick and the engine spun fast,
> and the jeep moved slow. On a quiet street I could hear the metal on metal
> sound of a thin clutch plate. The adjustment still feels perfect, so it is
> new clutch time for me. Question is should I spend a little extra for a
> name brand CenterForce I clutch for the ~$130 plus extra parts? How about
> the CenterForce II for ~$200 plus extra parts? Or should I get one from a
> local parts store for ~$130 that include all the parts including bearings,
> and cheapy tool? I am have the 258 engine, T5, D300, 32" tires (soon to be
> 33"), and 4.10 gears in an 83 CJ7. Can I get better life expectance out of
> a little better clutch? Or is the basic CenterForce the same as any other
> over-the-counter clutch?

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

The borg warner T5 clutch is the best in my mind. They put it behind
the Mustang V8's and it grabs nice with the foot pressure you are used
to.

A centerforce clutch, while it does grab nice needs over 100 lb on the
pedal to push it down! My wife needed to pull up on the steering wheel
even to get the bugger down.

It would be great for a hydraulic setup though.

I broke my centerforce pressure plate and went back to the old borg
warner pressure plate I took out and love it.

I learned....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Fletcher wrote:
>
> Last night I took off from an intersection quick and the engine spun fast,
> and the jeep moved slow. On a quiet street I could hear the metal on metal
> sound of a thin clutch plate. The adjustment still feels perfect, so it is
> new clutch time for me. Question is should I spend a little extra for a
> name brand CenterForce I clutch for the ~$130 plus extra parts? How about
> the CenterForce II for ~$200 plus extra parts? Or should I get one from a
> local parts store for ~$130 that include all the parts including bearings,
> and cheapy tool? I am have the 258 engine, T5, D300, 32" tires (soon to be
> 33"), and 4.10 gears in an 83 CJ7. Can I get better life expectance out of
> a little better clutch? Or is the basic CenterForce the same as any other
> over-the-counter clutch?

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

If you heard metal on metal, better figure on re-facing the fly wheel also.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"Fletcher" <no_email@please.com> wrote in message
news:WJijb.91240$CV2.19670@fe06.atl2.webusenet.com ...
> Last night I took off from an intersection quick and the engine spun
fast,
> and the jeep moved slow. On a quiet street I could hear the metal on
metal
> sound of a thin clutch plate. The adjustment still feels perfect, so it
is
> new clutch time for me. Question is should I spend a little extra for a
> name brand CenterForce I clutch for the ~$130 plus extra parts? How about
> the CenterForce II for ~$200 plus extra parts? Or should I get one from a
> local parts store for ~$130 that include all the parts including bearings,
> and cheapy tool? I am have the 258 engine, T5, D300, 32" tires (soon to
be
> 33"), and 4.10 gears in an 83 CJ7. Can I get better life expectance out
of
> a little better clutch? Or is the basic CenterForce the same as any other
> over-the-counter clutch?
>
>
>

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

If you heard metal on metal, better figure on re-facing the fly wheel also.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"Fletcher" <no_email@please.com> wrote in message
news:WJijb.91240$CV2.19670@fe06.atl2.webusenet.com ...
> Last night I took off from an intersection quick and the engine spun
fast,
> and the jeep moved slow. On a quiet street I could hear the metal on
metal
> sound of a thin clutch plate. The adjustment still feels perfect, so it
is
> new clutch time for me. Question is should I spend a little extra for a
> name brand CenterForce I clutch for the ~$130 plus extra parts? How about
> the CenterForce II for ~$200 plus extra parts? Or should I get one from a
> local parts store for ~$130 that include all the parts including bearings,
> and cheapy tool? I am have the 258 engine, T5, D300, 32" tires (soon to
be
> 33"), and 4.10 gears in an 83 CJ7. Can I get better life expectance out
of
> a little better clutch? Or is the basic CenterForce the same as any other
> over-the-counter clutch?
>
>
>

Re: new clutch time for the CJ
 

If you heard metal on metal, better figure on re-facing the fly wheel also.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

"Fletcher" <no_email@please.com> wrote in message
news:WJijb.91240$CV2.19670@fe06.atl2.webusenet.com ...
> Last night I took off from an intersection quick and the engine spun
fast,
> and the jeep moved slow. On a quiet street I could hear the metal on
metal
> sound of a thin clutch plate. The adjustment still feels perfect, so it
is
> new clutch time for me. Question is should I spend a little extra for a
> name brand CenterForce I clutch for the ~$130 plus extra parts? How about
> the CenterForce II for ~$200 plus extra parts? Or should I get one from a
> local parts store for ~$130 that include all the parts including bearings,
> and cheapy tool? I am have the 258 engine, T5, D300, 32" tires (soon to
be
> 33"), and 4.10 gears in an 83 CJ7. Can I get better life expectance out
of
> a little better clutch? Or is the basic CenterForce the same as any other
> over-the-counter clutch?
>
>
>