new clutch problem
03-26-2007, 10:36 AM
#11
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Re: new clutch problem
alexmacpherson@rogers.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> wrote:
>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seems like a part you could pop in from
>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>> Any ideas?
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
drawing, you have the wrong parts....
I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> wrote:
>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seems like a part you could pop in from
>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>> Any ideas?
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
drawing, you have the wrong parts....
I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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03-26-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: new clutch problem
alexmacpherson@rogers.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> wrote:
>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seems like a part you could pop in from
>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>> Any ideas?
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
drawing, you have the wrong parts....
I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> wrote:
>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seems like a part you could pop in from
>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>> Any ideas?
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
drawing, you have the wrong parts....
I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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03-26-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: new clutch problem
alexmacpherson@rogers.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> wrote:
>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seems like a part you could pop in from
>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>> Any ideas?
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
drawing, you have the wrong parts....
I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> wrote:
>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seems like a part you could pop in from
>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>
>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>> Any ideas?
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
drawing, you have the wrong parts....
I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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03-26-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: new clutch problem
On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> > wrote:
> >> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
> >> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
> >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> >> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.google groups.com...
>
> >>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
> >>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
> >>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
> >>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
> >>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
> >>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
> >>> Any ideas?
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> > the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> > cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> > ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> > could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> > the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>
> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>
> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> > wrote:
> >> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
> >> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
> >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> >> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.google groups.com...
>
> >>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
> >>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
> >>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
> >>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
> >>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
> >>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
> >>> Any ideas?
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> > the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> > cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> > ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> > could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> > the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>
> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>
> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
03-26-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: new clutch problem
On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> > wrote:
> >> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
> >> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
> >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> >> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.google groups.com...
>
> >>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
> >>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
> >>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
> >>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
> >>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
> >>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
> >>> Any ideas?
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> > the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> > cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> > ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> > could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> > the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>
> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>
> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> > wrote:
> >> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
> >> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
> >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> >> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.google groups.com...
>
> >>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
> >>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
> >>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
> >>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
> >>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
> >>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
> >>> Any ideas?
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> > the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> > cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> > ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> > could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> > the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>
> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>
> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
03-26-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: new clutch problem
On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> > wrote:
> >> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
> >> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
> >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> >> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.google groups.com...
>
> >>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
> >>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
> >>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
> >>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
> >>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
> >>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
> >>> Any ideas?
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> > the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> > cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> > ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> > could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> > the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>
> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>
> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
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>
> - Show quoted text -
The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> > wrote:
> >> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
> >> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
> >> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> >> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> >> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.google groups.com...
>
> >>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
> >>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
> >>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
> >>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
> >>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
> >>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
> >>> Any ideas?
> >> --
> >> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> > the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> > cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> > ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> > could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> > the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>
> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>
> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>
> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
03-26-2007, 12:31 PM
#17
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Re: new clutch problem
alexmacpherson@rogers.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
>>>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>>> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
>>> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
>>> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
>>> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
>>> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
>> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>>
>> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
>> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
>> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>>
>> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
>> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
> did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
> throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
> bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
> Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
> of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
> guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
> pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
> just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
>
Height was a big issue on mine. The bearings were different height as
well as some grabbed different. The interesting part was the different
designs actually fit on the fork.
If you got a different height one and everything works with the shorter
rod, I would think about just changing the rod. As long as you still
have enough travel, you should be ok.
Mike
> On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
>>>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>>> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
>>> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
>>> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
>>> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
>>> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
>> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>>
>> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
>> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
>> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>>
>> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
>> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
> did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
> throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
> bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
> Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
> of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
> guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
> pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
> just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
>
Height was a big issue on mine. The bearings were different height as
well as some grabbed different. The interesting part was the different
designs actually fit on the fork.
If you got a different height one and everything works with the shorter
rod, I would think about just changing the rod. As long as you still
have enough travel, you should be ok.
Mike
03-26-2007, 12:31 PM
#18
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Re: new clutch problem
alexmacpherson@rogers.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
>>>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>>> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
>>> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
>>> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
>>> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
>>> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
>> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>>
>> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
>> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
>> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>>
>> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
>> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
> did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
> throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
> bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
> Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
> of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
> guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
> pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
> just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
>
Height was a big issue on mine. The bearings were different height as
well as some grabbed different. The interesting part was the different
designs actually fit on the fork.
If you got a different height one and everything works with the shorter
rod, I would think about just changing the rod. As long as you still
have enough travel, you should be ok.
Mike
> On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
>>>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>>> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
>>> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
>>> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
>>> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
>>> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
>> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>>
>> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
>> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
>> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>>
>> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
>> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
> did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
> throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
> bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
> Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
> of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
> guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
> pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
> just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
>
Height was a big issue on mine. The bearings were different height as
well as some grabbed different. The interesting part was the different
designs actually fit on the fork.
If you got a different height one and everything works with the shorter
rod, I would think about just changing the rod. As long as you still
have enough travel, you should be ok.
Mike
03-26-2007, 12:31 PM
#19
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Re: new clutch problem
alexmacpherson@rogers.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
>>>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>>> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
>>> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
>>> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
>>> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
>>> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
>> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>>
>> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
>> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
>> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>>
>> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
>> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
> did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
> throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
> bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
> Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
> of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
> guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
> pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
> just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
>
Height was a big issue on mine. The bearings were different height as
well as some grabbed different. The interesting part was the different
designs actually fit on the fork.
If you got a different height one and everything works with the shorter
rod, I would think about just changing the rod. As long as you still
have enough travel, you should be ok.
Mike
> On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslike a part you could pop in from
>>>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>>>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
>>>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
>>>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
>>>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
>>>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
>>>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> --
>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>>> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
>>> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
>>> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
>>> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
>>> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
>> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
>> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>>
>> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
>> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
>> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>>
>> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
>> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
> did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
> throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
> bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
> Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
> of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
> guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
> pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
> just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
>
Height was a big issue on mine. The bearings were different height as
well as some grabbed different. The interesting part was the different
designs actually fit on the fork.
If you got a different height one and everything works with the shorter
rod, I would think about just changing the rod. As long as you still
have enough travel, you should be ok.
Mike
03-26-2007, 12:41 PM
#20
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Re: new clutch problem
On Mar 26, 12:31 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> >>> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslikea part you could pop in from
> >>>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> >>>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
> >>>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1174875488.781415.209690@b75g2000hsg.goog legroups.com...
> >>>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
> >>>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
> >>>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
> >>>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
> >>>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
> >>>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
> >>>>> Any ideas?
> >>>> --
> >>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
> >>> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> >>> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> >>> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> >>> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> >>> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
> >> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
> >> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
>
> >> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
> >> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
> >> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>
> >> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
> >> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
> > did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
> > throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
> > bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
> > Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
> > of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
> > guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
> > pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
> > just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
>
> Height was a big issue on mine. The bearings were different height as
> well as some grabbed different. The interesting part was the different
> designs actually fit on the fork.
>
> If you got a different height one and everything works with the shorter
> rod, I would think about just changing the rod. As long as you still
> have enough travel, you should be ok.
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Thanks for your insight guys, very much appreciated!
> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> > On Mar 26, 10:36 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> alexmacpher...@rogers.com wrote:
> >>> On Mar 26, 12:12 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@***.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> We believe you're missing the fork's pivot ball, number twenty:http://www.----------.com/clutch/Seemslikea part you could pop in from
> >>>> the outside, via a mirror and prayers.
> >>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> >>>> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
> >>>> <alexmacpher...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> >>>>> ..just finished installing a new clutch on my 85 cj7 /amc 150
> >>>>> 4popper. Now the clutch won't disengage...I bled the hydraulic clutch
> >>>>> system...I'm sure I put the disc on properly...the only way i could
> >>>>> get it to work was to use a 6 inch socket extender in place of the
> >>>>> slave cylinder push rod. It's working but what went wrong? Where did
> >>>>> I lose the space?? Why is the clutch slave push rod now too short??
> >>>>> Any ideas?
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> >>> the clutch fork doesn't look like the one in the diagram-the slave
> >>> cylinder push rod enters on the passenger's side, and there is a pivot
> >>> ball on the driver's side -I checked-pulled the inspection plate-and I
> >>> could see the ball still there. However, there never was part 20 from
> >>> the beginning when I opened it up...Is that plastic?
> >> From my experience with CJ's if the parts don't 'look' the same as the
> >> drawing, you have the wrong parts....
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> >> I went through 3 or 4 throw out bearings trying to find one to match
> >> mine, then gave up piecing it together and bought a kit with a totally
> >> different bearing again in it. The one in the kit matched though.
>
> >> There is a slot in some of the bearings the shift fork slides in and
> >> others had clips on the back. One made the fork in the wrong place.
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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> > The new throwout bearing seated the same way that the previous one
> > did, with 2 spring tabs and 2 little stubs that mate with holes in the
> > throwout bearing's collar. I did not think to measure the throwout
> > bearing height compared to the old one..they appeared to be similar.
> > Note: I did find yellow plastic fragments in the sludge at the bottom
> > of the bellhousing when I first removed it and cleaned it. I'm
> > guessing that was the previous pivot that had worn away. My temporary
> > pushrod solution seems to work -the clutch disengages fully. Could I
> > just find an adjustable push rod and use that?
>
> Height was a big issue on mine. The bearings were different height as
> well as some grabbed different. The interesting part was the different
> designs actually fit on the fork.
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> If you got a different height one and everything works with the shorter
> rod, I would think about just changing the rod. As long as you still
> have enough travel, you should be ok.
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Thanks for your insight guys, very much appreciated!