Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

I sure hope so, but the weak stomached cut and run crowd is campaigning
hard.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
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> And we're proud of you! And I believe the voters will show us that
> fact on November seventh.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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>
> Rich wrote:
>>
>> Hey BILL! You know real Jeeps are built not bought.
>> Good to be back again BTW
>> Rich Harris

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

The October 16, 2006 issue of the Tech Center News covers the
introduction of the 4.0 liter V6 engine production at Trenton Engine
(off I-75 south of Detroit). This is a legacy post WW2 Chrysler plant.
The article also mentions that the 3.8L V6 minvan engine is built there
also. 3.3L V6 production was transferred to Kenosha, a legacy AMC
plant.With excess production capacity, productivity comparisons may
govern which engine plants survive.


Cummins is readying an engine plant for a small Diesel to go into
the Dakota or other small truck around 2010.

On Oct 23, 5:14 am, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> Real Jeep are not limited to the 401 CID V8 AMC put in them. They
> may have a two thousand horsepower crate motor:http://www.autoshopracingengines.com/machine_shop.htmOr just my five
> hundred:http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com
>
>
>
> Brian wrote:
>
> > C'mon, Bill ------, say it!
>
> > Real Jeeps have 72 horsepower four-cylinder engines. Nothing else is a
> > Real Jeep, and that 4.0 liter six-cylinder monstrosity is NOTHING like a
> > Real Jeep engine. Heck, Real Jeeps don't even use "liters," it's a 134
> > cubic inch motor. ;)
>
> > B- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

The October 16, 2006 issue of the Tech Center News covers the
introduction of the 4.0 liter V6 engine production at Trenton Engine
(off I-75 south of Detroit). This is a legacy post WW2 Chrysler plant.
The article also mentions that the 3.8L V6 minvan engine is built there
also. 3.3L V6 production was transferred to Kenosha, a legacy AMC
plant.With excess production capacity, productivity comparisons may
govern which engine plants survive.


Cummins is readying an engine plant for a small Diesel to go into
the Dakota or other small truck around 2010.

On Oct 23, 5:14 am, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> Real Jeep are not limited to the 401 CID V8 AMC put in them. They
> may have a two thousand horsepower crate motor:http://www.autoshopracingengines.com/machine_shop.htmOr just my five
> hundred:http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com
>
>
>
> Brian wrote:
>
> > C'mon, Bill ------, say it!
>
> > Real Jeeps have 72 horsepower four-cylinder engines. Nothing else is a
> > Real Jeep, and that 4.0 liter six-cylinder monstrosity is NOTHING like a
> > Real Jeep engine. Heck, Real Jeeps don't even use "liters," it's a 134
> > cubic inch motor. ;)
>
> > B- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

The October 16, 2006 issue of the Tech Center News covers the
introduction of the 4.0 liter V6 engine production at Trenton Engine
(off I-75 south of Detroit). This is a legacy post WW2 Chrysler plant.
The article also mentions that the 3.8L V6 minvan engine is built there
also. 3.3L V6 production was transferred to Kenosha, a legacy AMC
plant.With excess production capacity, productivity comparisons may
govern which engine plants survive.


Cummins is readying an engine plant for a small Diesel to go into
the Dakota or other small truck around 2010.

On Oct 23, 5:14 am, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> Real Jeep are not limited to the 401 CID V8 AMC put in them. They
> may have a two thousand horsepower crate motor:http://www.autoshopracingengines.com/machine_shop.htmOr just my five
> hundred:http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com
>
>
>
> Brian wrote:
>
> > C'mon, Bill ------, say it!
>
> > Real Jeeps have 72 horsepower four-cylinder engines. Nothing else is a
> > Real Jeep, and that 4.0 liter six-cylinder monstrosity is NOTHING like a
> > Real Jeep engine. Heck, Real Jeeps don't even use "liters," it's a 134
> > cubic inch motor. ;)
>
> > B- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>> Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>> how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.

But why wouldn't they use the 3.7 from the Liberty? That engine is
derived from the 4.7 V8, a purpose designed truck engine.

The minivan engine is reportedly on it's way to being replaced in a few
years.

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>> Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>> how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.

But why wouldn't they use the 3.7 from the Liberty? That engine is
derived from the 4.7 V8, a purpose designed truck engine.

The minivan engine is reportedly on it's way to being replaced in a few
years.

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>> Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>> how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.

But why wouldn't they use the 3.7 from the Liberty? That engine is
derived from the 4.7 V8, a purpose designed truck engine.

The minivan engine is reportedly on it's way to being replaced in a few
years.

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jd Lyall wrote:
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>> degrees.
>>
>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on
>>> other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>
> But why wouldn't they use the 3.7 from the Liberty? That engine is
> derived from the 4.7 V8, a purpose designed truck engine.

The 3.7 from the Liberty is a 90 degree V6 (a 90 degree V8 with two
cylinders chopped out). It is too wide to fit in the Wrangler's engine
bay. The 3.8 engine in the 2007 actually is several years old and was
designed for Chrysler's front-wheel-drive minivans. Like most V6 engines
designed for front-wheel-drive vehicles, it is a 60 degree V6 in order
to be narrower than the V8-derived engines. They had to make the new
Wrangler 6 inches wider even to fit that narrow V6 into it, so you can
see why they did not put the 3.7 from the Liberty in there.

The 3.8 is an old-timey pushrod engine tho so while power is
unexceptional, at least it's not a whiney high-strung engine like the
3.7 in the Liberty.

-Elron

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jd Lyall wrote:
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>> degrees.
>>
>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on
>>> other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>
> But why wouldn't they use the 3.7 from the Liberty? That engine is
> derived from the 4.7 V8, a purpose designed truck engine.

The 3.7 from the Liberty is a 90 degree V6 (a 90 degree V8 with two
cylinders chopped out). It is too wide to fit in the Wrangler's engine
bay. The 3.8 engine in the 2007 actually is several years old and was
designed for Chrysler's front-wheel-drive minivans. Like most V6 engines
designed for front-wheel-drive vehicles, it is a 60 degree V6 in order
to be narrower than the V8-derived engines. They had to make the new
Wrangler 6 inches wider even to fit that narrow V6 into it, so you can
see why they did not put the 3.7 from the Liberty in there.

The 3.8 is an old-timey pushrod engine tho so while power is
unexceptional, at least it's not a whiney high-strung engine like the
3.7 in the Liberty.

-Elron

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jd Lyall wrote:
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>> degrees.
>>
>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on
>>> other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>
> But why wouldn't they use the 3.7 from the Liberty? That engine is
> derived from the 4.7 V8, a purpose designed truck engine.

The 3.7 from the Liberty is a 90 degree V6 (a 90 degree V8 with two
cylinders chopped out). It is too wide to fit in the Wrangler's engine
bay. The 3.8 engine in the 2007 actually is several years old and was
designed for Chrysler's front-wheel-drive minivans. Like most V6 engines
designed for front-wheel-drive vehicles, it is a 60 degree V6 in order
to be narrower than the V8-derived engines. They had to make the new
Wrangler 6 inches wider even to fit that narrow V6 into it, so you can
see why they did not put the 3.7 from the Liberty in there.

The 3.8 is an old-timey pushrod engine tho so while power is
unexceptional, at least it's not a whiney high-strung engine like the
3.7 in the Liberty.

-Elron