new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.

Rob

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
degrees.

"Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>
> Rob
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
degrees.

"Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>
> Rob
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
degrees.

"Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>
> Rob
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
> "Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
> >I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
> >Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
> >how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>

I thought the 3.3/3.8 60 degree V6 was dead.

Too bad you cant get the Benz V6....the one Centurion Thielert uses....

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
> "Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
> >I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
> >Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
> >how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>

I thought the 3.3/3.8 60 degree V6 was dead.

Too bad you cant get the Benz V6....the one Centurion Thielert uses....

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
> "Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
> >I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
> >Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
> >how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>

I thought the 3.3/3.8 60 degree V6 was dead.

Too bad you cant get the Benz V6....the one Centurion Thielert uses....

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

Jeff DeWitt

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
> "Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
>
>>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>>Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>>how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>>
>>Rob
>>
>
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

Jeff DeWitt

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
> "Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
>
>>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>>Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>>how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>>
>>Rob
>>
>
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

Jeff DeWitt

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
> degrees.
>
> "Nospam" <Nospam@Nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jdxZg.3618$4T6.1196@trnddc02...
>
>>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used on other
>>Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8 engine. I wonder
>>how many years it will take to get it bullet proof.
>>
>>Rob
>>
>
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.

> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>> degrees.

Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.

>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>
>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>> proof.

--
DougW

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.

> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>> degrees.

Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.

>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>
>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>> proof.

--
DougW

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.

> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>> degrees.

Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.

>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>
>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>> proof.

--
DougW

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Maybe so. but "fairly good power" doesn't a Jeep engine make!

Jeff DeWitt

DougW wrote:
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
>
> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>
>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>>degrees.
>
>
> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>
>
>>>"Nospam" wrote...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>>on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>>engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>>proof.
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Maybe so. but "fairly good power" doesn't a Jeep engine make!

Jeff DeWitt

DougW wrote:
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
>
> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>
>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>>degrees.
>
>
> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>
>
>>>"Nospam" wrote...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>>on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>>engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>>proof.
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Maybe so. but "fairly good power" doesn't a Jeep engine make!

Jeff DeWitt

DougW wrote:
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
>
> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>
>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>>degrees.
>
>
> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>
>
>>>"Nospam" wrote...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>>on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>>engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>>proof.
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

According to AllPar.com the DC minivan engines are set up for low end
oomph...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ErAZg.36086$iA5.18940@dukeread11...
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>> degrees.
>
> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>
>>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>>
>>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>> proof.
>
> --
> DougW
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

According to AllPar.com the DC minivan engines are set up for low end
oomph...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ErAZg.36086$iA5.18940@dukeread11...
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>> degrees.
>
> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>
>>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>>
>>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>> proof.
>
> --
> DougW
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

According to AllPar.com the DC minivan engines are set up for low end
oomph...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ErAZg.36086$iA5.18940@dukeread11...
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>> degrees.
>
> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>
>>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>>
>>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>> proof.
>
> --
> DougW
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:

> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

LOL! Really. I know the reasons for the demise of the I-6, but still,
you would think they would switch over to a long-standing,
well-developed, durable truck engine design as a replacement instead of
something out of a FWD Mommy-Van.

I just got the 'press release' packet in the mail with loads of
information about the '07 Wrangler. I now need a vomit bag. It's
hideous. An interior like a PT Cruiser, and exterior like a Hummer, and
a nice, new drivetrain that has no off-road history at all. And I'm
sure it will take 10 years to work the bugs out of this thing as well,
as sales languish. Bleh. This is progress?

All I can say is, THANK GOD I bought my '05 TJ Unlimited when I did!!!

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:

> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

LOL! Really. I know the reasons for the demise of the I-6, but still,
you would think they would switch over to a long-standing,
well-developed, durable truck engine design as a replacement instead of
something out of a FWD Mommy-Van.

I just got the 'press release' packet in the mail with loads of
information about the '07 Wrangler. I now need a vomit bag. It's
hideous. An interior like a PT Cruiser, and exterior like a Hummer, and
a nice, new drivetrain that has no off-road history at all. And I'm
sure it will take 10 years to work the bugs out of this thing as well,
as sales languish. Bleh. This is progress?

All I can say is, THANK GOD I bought my '05 TJ Unlimited when I did!!!

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:

> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.

LOL! Really. I know the reasons for the demise of the I-6, but still,
you would think they would switch over to a long-standing,
well-developed, durable truck engine design as a replacement instead of
something out of a FWD Mommy-Van.

I just got the 'press release' packet in the mail with loads of
information about the '07 Wrangler. I now need a vomit bag. It's
hideous. An interior like a PT Cruiser, and exterior like a Hummer, and
a nice, new drivetrain that has no off-road history at all. And I'm
sure it will take 10 years to work the bugs out of this thing as well,
as sales languish. Bleh. This is progress?

All I can say is, THANK GOD I bought my '05 TJ Unlimited when I did!!!

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Actually I try NOT to notice mini vans <G>

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Actually I try NOT to notice mini vans <G>

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Actually I try NOT to notice mini vans <G>

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
>>Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Have you noticed how many soccer-mom minivans were traded in for Hummers?

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45370164.B3C4F14D@cox.net...
> Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Have you noticed how many soccer-mom minivans were traded in for Hummers?

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45370164.B3C4F14D@cox.net...
> Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Have you noticed how many soccer-mom minivans were traded in for Hummers?

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:45370164.B3C4F14D@cox.net...
> Have you noticed how many mini vans are still on the road?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>>
>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

We had a Chrysler Town and Country with the 3.8, it could get out of its own
way OK. But that was several years ago.

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:1806d$4536eb5c$422afc51$30937@FUSE.NET...
> According to AllPar.com the DC minivan engines are set up for low end
> oomph...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:ErAZg.36086$iA5.18940@dukeread11...
>> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>>
>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>>> degrees.
>>
>> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>>
>>>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>>>
>>>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>>> proof.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

We had a Chrysler Town and Country with the 3.8, it could get out of its own
way OK. But that was several years ago.

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:1806d$4536eb5c$422afc51$30937@FUSE.NET...
> According to AllPar.com the DC minivan engines are set up for low end
> oomph...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:ErAZg.36086$iA5.18940@dukeread11...
>> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>>
>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>>> degrees.
>>
>> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>>
>>>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>>>
>>>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>>> proof.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

We had a Chrysler Town and Country with the 3.8, it could get out of its own
way OK. But that was several years ago.

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:1806d$4536eb5c$422afc51$30937@FUSE.NET...
> According to AllPar.com the DC minivan engines are set up for low end
> oomph...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:ErAZg.36086$iA5.18940@dukeread11...
>> Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>>> Oh boy, a minvan engine in a Jeep.
>>
>> Properly geared the 3.8 actually has fairly good power.
>>
>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>> It's been around a while, it's the Chrysler minivan engine turned 90
>>>> degrees.
>>
>> Maby this time you won't have to drop the engine to change the plugs.
>>
>>>> "Nospam" wrote...
>>>>
>>>>> I thought that the 2007 were going to have the 3.6 V6 that is used
>>>>> on other Jeep models. I just found out that it is a brand new 3.8
>>>>> engine. I wonder how many years it will take to get it bullet
>>>>> proof.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>
>

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

To me, the 4-door Unlimited all-too-closely resembles a minivan in the
first place. I wouldn't have dropped the 4.0 from the line for
anything, but if I'd had to I probably would have chosen the 3.8 as its
replacement. My stepdad drives a Grand Caravan with that engine and
it's a lot more powerful than one would expect. I think it provides a
good medium between aggressive off-roading and the daily commute, which
I think it was Jeep was going for in the new line.

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

To me, the 4-door Unlimited all-too-closely resembles a minivan in the
first place. I wouldn't have dropped the 4.0 from the line for
anything, but if I'd had to I probably would have chosen the 3.8 as its
replacement. My stepdad drives a Grand Caravan with that engine and
it's a lot more powerful than one would expect. I think it provides a
good medium between aggressive off-roading and the daily commute, which
I think it was Jeep was going for in the new line.

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

To me, the 4-door Unlimited all-too-closely resembles a minivan in the
first place. I wouldn't have dropped the 4.0 from the line for
anything, but if I'd had to I probably would have chosen the 3.8 as its
replacement. My stepdad drives a Grand Caravan with that engine and
it's a lot more powerful than one would expect. I think it provides a
good medium between aggressive off-roading and the daily commute, which
I think it was Jeep was going for in the new line.

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Agreed. We have an 05 GC with the 3.8 and it gets good mileage and has
enough power. We towed our 2000lb pop-up over the Rockies this summer
with it and I was impressed.

Now, I wouldn't trade the 4.0L in my 98TJ for the 3.8, but if I was in
the market for the '07 four door I'd want a V6 and automatic. I long
ago got tired of shifting my 5sp everyday. Maybe that's part of the
reason the TJ sits in the garage most days and I commute with a 97 GC.

mc

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Agreed. We have an 05 GC with the 3.8 and it gets good mileage and has
enough power. We towed our 2000lb pop-up over the Rockies this summer
with it and I was impressed.

Now, I wouldn't trade the 4.0L in my 98TJ for the 3.8, but if I was in
the market for the '07 four door I'd want a V6 and automatic. I long
ago got tired of shifting my 5sp everyday. Maybe that's part of the
reason the TJ sits in the garage most days and I commute with a 97 GC.

mc

Re: new 3.8 engine in 2007 wrangler
 

Agreed. We have an 05 GC with the 3.8 and it gets good mileage and has
enough power. We towed our 2000lb pop-up over the Rockies this summer
with it and I was impressed.

Now, I wouldn't trade the 4.0L in my 98TJ for the 3.8, but if I was in
the market for the '07 four door I'd want a V6 and automatic. I long
ago got tired of shifting my 5sp everyday. Maybe that's part of the
reason the TJ sits in the garage most days and I commute with a 97 GC.

mc