L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:

> Look at the market it was aiming for, the Ford Pinto, and the Chevy
> Vega.

And the Gremlin was at the BOTTOM of that particular dungpile.

> Tell me you wouldn't want a ride in a four hundred horse power
> Javelin.

With AMC brakes and suspension, it would be much more exciting than
necessary.

 

Well, things have changed since the front engine Indy cars of the
mid sixties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RJ wrote:
>
> And the Gremlin was at the BOTTOM of that particular dungpile.
>
> With AMC brakes and suspension, it would be much more exciting than
> necessary.

 

Well, things have changed since the front engine Indy cars of the
mid sixties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RJ wrote:
>
> And the Gremlin was at the BOTTOM of that particular dungpile.
>
> With AMC brakes and suspension, it would be much more exciting than
> necessary.

 

Well, things have changed since the front engine Indy cars of the
mid sixties.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RJ wrote:
>
> And the Gremlin was at the BOTTOM of that particular dungpile.
>
> With AMC brakes and suspension, it would be much more exciting than
> necessary.

 

none of my many many jeeps, of all years and models, ever had a death
wobble, or any other kind of wobble...
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:9nchd.92742$tU4.37936@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
>
> > I think you are being entirely fair to the GC - it wasn't built to be as
> > offroad capable as the Wrangler, and nor was the Waggy.
> > (although I accept that IFS is going entirely too far).
>
> Actually IFS does cure the dreaded death-wobble common to solid front
> axles. First time the ZJ had death-wobble I seriously considered trading
> it in that evening.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

 

none of my many many jeeps, of all years and models, ever had a death
wobble, or any other kind of wobble...
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:9nchd.92742$tU4.37936@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
>
> > I think you are being entirely fair to the GC - it wasn't built to be as
> > offroad capable as the Wrangler, and nor was the Waggy.
> > (although I accept that IFS is going entirely too far).
>
> Actually IFS does cure the dreaded death-wobble common to solid front
> axles. First time the ZJ had death-wobble I seriously considered trading
> it in that evening.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

 

none of my many many jeeps, of all years and models, ever had a death
wobble, or any other kind of wobble...
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:9nchd.92742$tU4.37936@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
>
> > I think you are being entirely fair to the GC - it wasn't built to be as
> > offroad capable as the Wrangler, and nor was the Waggy.
> > (although I accept that IFS is going entirely too far).
>
> Actually IFS does cure the dreaded death-wobble common to solid front
> axles. First time the ZJ had death-wobble I seriously considered trading
> it in that evening.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

 

almost everything you believe is wrong. the gremlin was a superior design
then and now: no rack and pinion, no struts, no frame. just like many
foreign sports sedans. ha. the gremlin had a large, torquey,
understressed engine...and superior front-to-rear balance. It had
relatively large wheels and brakes, and full size pedals on the floor,
unlike the big 3's small sxxt box cars. You are so wrong about most of your
beliefs, concerning cars., I think you must have missed out on the having
the fun and enjoyment that comes with having an open mind...yours,
obviously, being closed to any idea or thought that you previously never had
held. any questions? of course,I could be wrong....the rambler's styling
was copied by mercedes for about l5 years, much longer than other
manufacturers copied it. I could go on....
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1gmj3g8.pdpdvir1flrdN%re_johnson@hotmail.com. ..
> attnews <john.n.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > the '05 GC is not really a Jeep at all. It is a "something" loosely
based
> > on what used to be a great vehicle, those last designed by AMC.
>
> It's just not possible to use greatness and AMC in the same sentence.
>
> I remember the Gremlin. Rented one once because they had run out of all
> other vehicles. Small and uncomfortable, but heavy and slow. The
> crappiest looking seats I ever saw in a car; they were hard with thin
> padding, too. Pushing down the pedal to shift into passing gear caused
> the engine to roar loudly, but no actual acceleration occurred.
>
> My great-uncle owned a 60s Rambler. Once when he was visiting us, he
> was trying to get the carburetor adjusted right. I saw when he was
> working on it that the carb body was PLASTIC. I don't think that was
> the wave of the future in carburetor technology, because I never saw one
> since.
>
> Another person I knew owned a top-of-the line Rambler, mid-60s vintage.
> It was a two door car, and when you folded the seat forward to get into
> the back seat, it left a big metal trim piece (a chrome thing that
> covered the hinge) sticking out into the opening that was perfect for
> barking your shins on.
>
> Those are the design and engineering achievements I think of when I
> hear AMC.

 

almost everything you believe is wrong. the gremlin was a superior design
then and now: no rack and pinion, no struts, no frame. just like many
foreign sports sedans. ha. the gremlin had a large, torquey,
understressed engine...and superior front-to-rear balance. It had
relatively large wheels and brakes, and full size pedals on the floor,
unlike the big 3's small sxxt box cars. You are so wrong about most of your
beliefs, concerning cars., I think you must have missed out on the having
the fun and enjoyment that comes with having an open mind...yours,
obviously, being closed to any idea or thought that you previously never had
held. any questions? of course,I could be wrong....the rambler's styling
was copied by mercedes for about l5 years, much longer than other
manufacturers copied it. I could go on....
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1gmj3g8.pdpdvir1flrdN%re_johnson@hotmail.com. ..
> attnews <john.n.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > the '05 GC is not really a Jeep at all. It is a "something" loosely
based
> > on what used to be a great vehicle, those last designed by AMC.
>
> It's just not possible to use greatness and AMC in the same sentence.
>
> I remember the Gremlin. Rented one once because they had run out of all
> other vehicles. Small and uncomfortable, but heavy and slow. The
> crappiest looking seats I ever saw in a car; they were hard with thin
> padding, too. Pushing down the pedal to shift into passing gear caused
> the engine to roar loudly, but no actual acceleration occurred.
>
> My great-uncle owned a 60s Rambler. Once when he was visiting us, he
> was trying to get the carburetor adjusted right. I saw when he was
> working on it that the carb body was PLASTIC. I don't think that was
> the wave of the future in carburetor technology, because I never saw one
> since.
>
> Another person I knew owned a top-of-the line Rambler, mid-60s vintage.
> It was a two door car, and when you folded the seat forward to get into
> the back seat, it left a big metal trim piece (a chrome thing that
> covered the hinge) sticking out into the opening that was perfect for
> barking your shins on.
>
> Those are the design and engineering achievements I think of when I
> hear AMC.

 

almost everything you believe is wrong. the gremlin was a superior design
then and now: no rack and pinion, no struts, no frame. just like many
foreign sports sedans. ha. the gremlin had a large, torquey,
understressed engine...and superior front-to-rear balance. It had
relatively large wheels and brakes, and full size pedals on the floor,
unlike the big 3's small sxxt box cars. You are so wrong about most of your
beliefs, concerning cars., I think you must have missed out on the having
the fun and enjoyment that comes with having an open mind...yours,
obviously, being closed to any idea or thought that you previously never had
held. any questions? of course,I could be wrong....the rambler's styling
was copied by mercedes for about l5 years, much longer than other
manufacturers copied it. I could go on....
"RJ" <re_johnson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1gmj3g8.pdpdvir1flrdN%re_johnson@hotmail.com. ..
> attnews <john.n.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > the '05 GC is not really a Jeep at all. It is a "something" loosely
based
> > on what used to be a great vehicle, those last designed by AMC.
>
> It's just not possible to use greatness and AMC in the same sentence.
>
> I remember the Gremlin. Rented one once because they had run out of all
> other vehicles. Small and uncomfortable, but heavy and slow. The
> crappiest looking seats I ever saw in a car; they were hard with thin
> padding, too. Pushing down the pedal to shift into passing gear caused
> the engine to roar loudly, but no actual acceleration occurred.
>
> My great-uncle owned a 60s Rambler. Once when he was visiting us, he
> was trying to get the carburetor adjusted right. I saw when he was
> working on it that the carb body was PLASTIC. I don't think that was
> the wave of the future in carburetor technology, because I never saw one
> since.
>
> Another person I knew owned a top-of-the line Rambler, mid-60s vintage.
> It was a two door car, and when you folded the seat forward to get into
> the back seat, it left a big metal trim piece (a chrome thing that
> covered the hinge) sticking out into the opening that was perfect for
> barking your shins on.
>
> Those are the design and engineering achievements I think of when I
> hear AMC.