Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
11-20-2004, 08:54 AM
#31
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:42:15 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>And for a last resort if the switch is physically broken, 'I' would
>likely either jumper the wires so it would start in any gear or put the
>wires to a hidden toggle for an anti theft switch.
Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
safety feature.
A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
a good anti-theft device too.
wrote:
>And for a last resort if the switch is physically broken, 'I' would
>likely either jumper the wires so it would start in any gear or put the
>wires to a hidden toggle for an anti theft switch.
Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
safety feature.
A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
a good anti-theft device too.
11-20-2004, 09:50 AM
#32
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:42:15 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And for a last resort if the switch is physically broken, 'I' would
> >likely either jumper the wires so it would start in any gear or put the
> >wires to a hidden toggle for an anti theft switch.
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
Very good point. I have seen too many vehicles jump when someone goes
to start them that I always stand off to the side. My shin has been
hit. An old friend and current tenant of mine is just recovering from
his second replacement hip. He wore out the first one. He needed the
first one because he used a remote starter on his car and it fired up in
gear and ran him over...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:42:15 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And for a last resort if the switch is physically broken, 'I' would
> >likely either jumper the wires so it would start in any gear or put the
> >wires to a hidden toggle for an anti theft switch.
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
Very good point. I have seen too many vehicles jump when someone goes
to start them that I always stand off to the side. My shin has been
hit. An old friend and current tenant of mine is just recovering from
his second replacement hip. He wore out the first one. He needed the
first one because he used a remote starter on his car and it fired up in
gear and ran him over...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-20-2004, 09:50 AM
#33
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:42:15 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And for a last resort if the switch is physically broken, 'I' would
> >likely either jumper the wires so it would start in any gear or put the
> >wires to a hidden toggle for an anti theft switch.
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
Very good point. I have seen too many vehicles jump when someone goes
to start them that I always stand off to the side. My shin has been
hit. An old friend and current tenant of mine is just recovering from
his second replacement hip. He wore out the first one. He needed the
first one because he used a remote starter on his car and it fired up in
gear and ran him over...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:42:15 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And for a last resort if the switch is physically broken, 'I' would
> >likely either jumper the wires so it would start in any gear or put the
> >wires to a hidden toggle for an anti theft switch.
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
Very good point. I have seen too many vehicles jump when someone goes
to start them that I always stand off to the side. My shin has been
hit. An old friend and current tenant of mine is just recovering from
his second replacement hip. He wore out the first one. He needed the
first one because he used a remote starter on his car and it fired up in
gear and ran him over...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-20-2004, 09:50 AM
#34
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:42:15 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And for a last resort if the switch is physically broken, 'I' would
> >likely either jumper the wires so it would start in any gear or put the
> >wires to a hidden toggle for an anti theft switch.
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
Very good point. I have seen too many vehicles jump when someone goes
to start them that I always stand off to the side. My shin has been
hit. An old friend and current tenant of mine is just recovering from
his second replacement hip. He wore out the first one. He needed the
first one because he used a remote starter on his car and it fired up in
gear and ran him over...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:42:15 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >And for a last resort if the switch is physically broken, 'I' would
> >likely either jumper the wires so it would start in any gear or put the
> >wires to a hidden toggle for an anti theft switch.
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
Very good point. I have seen too many vehicles jump when someone goes
to start them that I always stand off to the side. My shin has been
hit. An old friend and current tenant of mine is just recovering from
his second replacement hip. He wore out the first one. He needed the
first one because he used a remote starter on his car and it fired up in
gear and ran him over...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-20-2004, 02:46 PM
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Almost as bad here. When a friend's wife was going the girls for a
10-100, and lit the Olds powered Jeep, while the Turbo 400 was in gear,
flipping passengers out on their heads:
http://www.----------.com/oldsjeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
10-100, and lit the Olds powered Jeep, while the Turbo 400 was in gear,
flipping passengers out on their heads:
http://www.----------.com/oldsjeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
11-20-2004, 02:46 PM
#36
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Almost as bad here. When a friend's wife was going the girls for a
10-100, and lit the Olds powered Jeep, while the Turbo 400 was in gear,
flipping passengers out on their heads:
http://www.----------.com/oldsjeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
10-100, and lit the Olds powered Jeep, while the Turbo 400 was in gear,
flipping passengers out on their heads:
http://www.----------.com/oldsjeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
11-20-2004, 02:46 PM
#37
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Posts: n/a
Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Almost as bad here. When a friend's wife was going the girls for a
10-100, and lit the Olds powered Jeep, while the Turbo 400 was in gear,
flipping passengers out on their heads:
http://www.----------.com/oldsjeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
10-100, and lit the Olds powered Jeep, while the Turbo 400 was in gear,
flipping passengers out on their heads:
http://www.----------.com/oldsjeep.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Hoodoo wrote:
>
> Bypassing the switch is easy to do and I've done it in the past,
> however, I also had the experience of standing next to a friend when
> someone hurriedly started up a vehicle (not mine) which had the switch
> bypassed and I saw my friend's leg bent around and beneath the wide
> rear tire (causing severe breakage of leg bones) when the vehicle
> lurched in gear as soon as the engine started. That taught me the
> value of being cautious instead of carefree when it comes to this
> safety feature.
>
> A momentary toggle switch would suffice if someone didn't wish to
> incur the expense of a factory-type switch. And as you state, it makes
> a good anti-theft device too.
11-20-2004, 09:16 PM
#38
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Did you check to see if the switch /lever adjustment was correct?
often just setting the position right will fix the problem.
old john
"rl1856" <rl1856@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:87d2f055.0411191150.44796cf9@posting.google.c om...
> 1994 2wd 4.0L 6cyl Auto Cherokee 148k miles
>
> ~50% of the time, this truck does not start when turning the key.
> After checking the electrial system, starter and replacing the
> battery, the problem would not go away. On the suggestion of a
> friend, I tried moveing the floor shift lever slightly when trying to
> start it. Success !! I litterally moved the lever less than 1"
>
> I took the truck to a transmission shop and was told I need a Neutral
> Safety Switch/ MPL Switch. This is a dealer only item and the
> installed quote is $500 !!!!
>
> Anyone have a link to a cheaper part supplier or a company that sells
> a rebuilt switch ?
>
> The shop told me that I have a Toyota built transmission also refered
> to as a AWF transmission if that helps.
>
> Thanks in advance !!
>
> Ross
>
often just setting the position right will fix the problem.
old john
"rl1856" <rl1856@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:87d2f055.0411191150.44796cf9@posting.google.c om...
> 1994 2wd 4.0L 6cyl Auto Cherokee 148k miles
>
> ~50% of the time, this truck does not start when turning the key.
> After checking the electrial system, starter and replacing the
> battery, the problem would not go away. On the suggestion of a
> friend, I tried moveing the floor shift lever slightly when trying to
> start it. Success !! I litterally moved the lever less than 1"
>
> I took the truck to a transmission shop and was told I need a Neutral
> Safety Switch/ MPL Switch. This is a dealer only item and the
> installed quote is $500 !!!!
>
> Anyone have a link to a cheaper part supplier or a company that sells
> a rebuilt switch ?
>
> The shop told me that I have a Toyota built transmission also refered
> to as a AWF transmission if that helps.
>
> Thanks in advance !!
>
> Ross
>
11-20-2004, 09:16 PM
#39
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Did you check to see if the switch /lever adjustment was correct?
often just setting the position right will fix the problem.
old john
"rl1856" <rl1856@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:87d2f055.0411191150.44796cf9@posting.google.c om...
> 1994 2wd 4.0L 6cyl Auto Cherokee 148k miles
>
> ~50% of the time, this truck does not start when turning the key.
> After checking the electrial system, starter and replacing the
> battery, the problem would not go away. On the suggestion of a
> friend, I tried moveing the floor shift lever slightly when trying to
> start it. Success !! I litterally moved the lever less than 1"
>
> I took the truck to a transmission shop and was told I need a Neutral
> Safety Switch/ MPL Switch. This is a dealer only item and the
> installed quote is $500 !!!!
>
> Anyone have a link to a cheaper part supplier or a company that sells
> a rebuilt switch ?
>
> The shop told me that I have a Toyota built transmission also refered
> to as a AWF transmission if that helps.
>
> Thanks in advance !!
>
> Ross
>
often just setting the position right will fix the problem.
old john
"rl1856" <rl1856@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:87d2f055.0411191150.44796cf9@posting.google.c om...
> 1994 2wd 4.0L 6cyl Auto Cherokee 148k miles
>
> ~50% of the time, this truck does not start when turning the key.
> After checking the electrial system, starter and replacing the
> battery, the problem would not go away. On the suggestion of a
> friend, I tried moveing the floor shift lever slightly when trying to
> start it. Success !! I litterally moved the lever less than 1"
>
> I took the truck to a transmission shop and was told I need a Neutral
> Safety Switch/ MPL Switch. This is a dealer only item and the
> installed quote is $500 !!!!
>
> Anyone have a link to a cheaper part supplier or a company that sells
> a rebuilt switch ?
>
> The shop told me that I have a Toyota built transmission also refered
> to as a AWF transmission if that helps.
>
> Thanks in advance !!
>
> Ross
>
11-20-2004, 09:16 PM
#40
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Re: Need Neutral Safety Switch for '94 Cherokee
Did you check to see if the switch /lever adjustment was correct?
often just setting the position right will fix the problem.
old john
"rl1856" <rl1856@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:87d2f055.0411191150.44796cf9@posting.google.c om...
> 1994 2wd 4.0L 6cyl Auto Cherokee 148k miles
>
> ~50% of the time, this truck does not start when turning the key.
> After checking the electrial system, starter and replacing the
> battery, the problem would not go away. On the suggestion of a
> friend, I tried moveing the floor shift lever slightly when trying to
> start it. Success !! I litterally moved the lever less than 1"
>
> I took the truck to a transmission shop and was told I need a Neutral
> Safety Switch/ MPL Switch. This is a dealer only item and the
> installed quote is $500 !!!!
>
> Anyone have a link to a cheaper part supplier or a company that sells
> a rebuilt switch ?
>
> The shop told me that I have a Toyota built transmission also refered
> to as a AWF transmission if that helps.
>
> Thanks in advance !!
>
> Ross
>
often just setting the position right will fix the problem.
old john
"rl1856" <rl1856@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:87d2f055.0411191150.44796cf9@posting.google.c om...
> 1994 2wd 4.0L 6cyl Auto Cherokee 148k miles
>
> ~50% of the time, this truck does not start when turning the key.
> After checking the electrial system, starter and replacing the
> battery, the problem would not go away. On the suggestion of a
> friend, I tried moveing the floor shift lever slightly when trying to
> start it. Success !! I litterally moved the lever less than 1"
>
> I took the truck to a transmission shop and was told I need a Neutral
> Safety Switch/ MPL Switch. This is a dealer only item and the
> installed quote is $500 !!!!
>
> Anyone have a link to a cheaper part supplier or a company that sells
> a rebuilt switch ?
>
> The shop told me that I have a Toyota built transmission also refered
> to as a AWF transmission if that helps.
>
> Thanks in advance !!
>
> Ross
>