Need help with a problem
#31
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Re: Need help with a problem
That was a bad track bar. I think both ends were bad or loose. This
feels totally different. It feels like driving on a flat tire where you
have to hold on tight to the steering wheel half turned.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike, What all did we find underneath his TJ?
>
> I recall there was some loose stuff but did we check it again afterwards?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:449827FF.762CE0C7@sympatico.ca...
> > Gotta fix it.... I am planning to put about 3000 miles on her later
> > this summer.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> I have seen them bind up like that, instead of getting loose. Heh, if
> >> you
> >> drive it long enough, and if you survive, it will loosen up for sure.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:44981B84.653FC80D@sympatico.ca...
> >> > I have what seems like the exact same trouble on my CJ7. The wheel
> >> > will
> >> > bind and stay about half a turn cocked while pulling to that side when
> >> > I
> >> > come back straight, like a flat does, then suddenly it will come
> >> > straight again.
> >> >
> >> > I was thinking maybe a bad steering stabilizer shock until I got under
> >> > and looked real close. I then noticed the rubber boot around one lower
> >> > ball joint gone. I will be damned if I can get that joint to move with
> >> > a pry bar and jacks, but it sure acts like it could be toast.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> > snowboardripper@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I have a TJ jeep 6cly 4.0L 2002. When I drive the jeep for around
> >> > > 1/2
> >> > > then make a sharp turn it seems like the wheel binds and I have a
> >> > > flat
> >> > > tire. This only occurs if the jeep has been driven for 20 minutes or
> >> > > longer. If I take it for a spin around the block it is ok.
> >> > >
> >> > > The U-Joints are find, and I am out of ideas. Any help would be
> >> > > great.
feels totally different. It feels like driving on a flat tire where you
have to hold on tight to the steering wheel half turned.
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike, What all did we find underneath his TJ?
>
> I recall there was some loose stuff but did we check it again afterwards?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:449827FF.762CE0C7@sympatico.ca...
> > Gotta fix it.... I am planning to put about 3000 miles on her later
> > this summer.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> I have seen them bind up like that, instead of getting loose. Heh, if
> >> you
> >> drive it long enough, and if you survive, it will loosen up for sure.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:44981B84.653FC80D@sympatico.ca...
> >> > I have what seems like the exact same trouble on my CJ7. The wheel
> >> > will
> >> > bind and stay about half a turn cocked while pulling to that side when
> >> > I
> >> > come back straight, like a flat does, then suddenly it will come
> >> > straight again.
> >> >
> >> > I was thinking maybe a bad steering stabilizer shock until I got under
> >> > and looked real close. I then noticed the rubber boot around one lower
> >> > ball joint gone. I will be damned if I can get that joint to move with
> >> > a pry bar and jacks, but it sure acts like it could be toast.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >
> >> > snowboardripper@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I have a TJ jeep 6cly 4.0L 2002. When I drive the jeep for around
> >> > > 1/2
> >> > > then make a sharp turn it seems like the wheel binds and I have a
> >> > > flat
> >> > > tire. This only occurs if the jeep has been driven for 20 minutes or
> >> > > longer. If I take it for a spin around the block it is ok.
> >> > >
> >> > > The U-Joints are find, and I am out of ideas. Any help would be
> >> > > great.
#32
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Re: Need help with a problem
While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
that side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
>
> Earle
socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
that side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
>
> Earle
#33
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Re: Need help with a problem
While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
that side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
>
> Earle
socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
that side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
>
> Earle
#34
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Re: Need help with a problem
While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
that side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
>
> Earle
socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
that side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
>
> Earle
#35
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Re: Need help with a problem
This will also find the bad axle universal joint, I believe is
causing that wobble in his turn.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Ideally, you would drive the car for 1/2 hour, until the problem appears,
> jack up the front end, and turn the wheels side to side, looking for
> binding. This may manifest as a sudden, jerky motion while you are smoothly
> trying to turn the wheels. The boot may not be gone. You have freshly
> lubed the front end, of course. Murphy's Law dictates that the ball joint
> without the grease fitting is the bad one though.
>
> Earle
causing that wobble in his turn.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Ideally, you would drive the car for 1/2 hour, until the problem appears,
> jack up the front end, and turn the wheels side to side, looking for
> binding. This may manifest as a sudden, jerky motion while you are smoothly
> trying to turn the wheels. The boot may not be gone. You have freshly
> lubed the front end, of course. Murphy's Law dictates that the ball joint
> without the grease fitting is the bad one though.
>
> Earle
#36
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Re: Need help with a problem
This will also find the bad axle universal joint, I believe is
causing that wobble in his turn.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Ideally, you would drive the car for 1/2 hour, until the problem appears,
> jack up the front end, and turn the wheels side to side, looking for
> binding. This may manifest as a sudden, jerky motion while you are smoothly
> trying to turn the wheels. The boot may not be gone. You have freshly
> lubed the front end, of course. Murphy's Law dictates that the ball joint
> without the grease fitting is the bad one though.
>
> Earle
causing that wobble in his turn.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Ideally, you would drive the car for 1/2 hour, until the problem appears,
> jack up the front end, and turn the wheels side to side, looking for
> binding. This may manifest as a sudden, jerky motion while you are smoothly
> trying to turn the wheels. The boot may not be gone. You have freshly
> lubed the front end, of course. Murphy's Law dictates that the ball joint
> without the grease fitting is the bad one though.
>
> Earle
#37
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Re: Need help with a problem
This will also find the bad axle universal joint, I believe is
causing that wobble in his turn.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Ideally, you would drive the car for 1/2 hour, until the problem appears,
> jack up the front end, and turn the wheels side to side, looking for
> binding. This may manifest as a sudden, jerky motion while you are smoothly
> trying to turn the wheels. The boot may not be gone. You have freshly
> lubed the front end, of course. Murphy's Law dictates that the ball joint
> without the grease fitting is the bad one though.
>
> Earle
causing that wobble in his turn.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Ideally, you would drive the car for 1/2 hour, until the problem appears,
> jack up the front end, and turn the wheels side to side, looking for
> binding. This may manifest as a sudden, jerky motion while you are smoothly
> trying to turn the wheels. The boot may not be gone. You have freshly
> lubed the front end, of course. Murphy's Law dictates that the ball joint
> without the grease fitting is the bad one though.
>
> Earle
#38
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Re: Need help with a problem
I just had the outer wheel bearing blow out on that side and the wheel
cupped inside and out. Fixed that and an inner wheel bearing on the
other side too. No help with the pull...
I put the cupped one on the back and the SOB howled for the first
hundred miles....
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
> socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
> center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
> that side.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> > used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> > bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
> >
> > Earle
cupped inside and out. Fixed that and an inner wheel bearing on the
other side too. No help with the pull...
I put the cupped one on the back and the SOB howled for the first
hundred miles....
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
> socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
> center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
> that side.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> > used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> > bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
> >
> > Earle
#39
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Re: Need help with a problem
I just had the outer wheel bearing blow out on that side and the wheel
cupped inside and out. Fixed that and an inner wheel bearing on the
other side too. No help with the pull...
I put the cupped one on the back and the SOB howled for the first
hundred miles....
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
> socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
> center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
> that side.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> > used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> > bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
> >
> > Earle
cupped inside and out. Fixed that and an inner wheel bearing on the
other side too. No help with the pull...
I put the cupped one on the back and the SOB howled for the first
hundred miles....
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
> socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
> center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
> that side.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> > used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> > bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
> >
> > Earle
#40
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Re: Need help with a problem
I just had the outer wheel bearing blow out on that side and the wheel
cupped inside and out. Fixed that and an inner wheel bearing on the
other side too. No help with the pull...
I put the cupped one on the back and the SOB howled for the first
hundred miles....
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
> socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
> center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
> that side.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> > used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> > bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
> >
> > Earle
cupped inside and out. Fixed that and an inner wheel bearing on the
other side too. No help with the pull...
I put the cupped one on the back and the SOB howled for the first
hundred miles....
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> While that ball joint is in a bind with rust a crud filling the
> socket, the tire wear will cut off the outside tread with our over
> center wheels, the bad camber, will look like a toe-in that only effects
> that side.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > State inspection guys in Massachusetts, when I was first learning to drive,
> > used a great big crow bar under the wheels, after jacking up. They will
> > bind sometimes though, before they get loose.
> >
> > Earle
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