Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

depends on a lot of things, driving style, gear ratio, etc.

I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
-jenn




On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:

>>Terrible.
>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

On Feb 2, 10:30 am, jbjeep <jbj...@saw.net> wrote:
> depends on a lot of things, driving style, gear ratio, etc.
>
> I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
> call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
> 33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
> -jenn
>
> On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >>Terrible.
> >>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
> >>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
> >>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks so much for everyone's input! I really appreciate it.

I think I will go ahead and get the 33"s. I already have BFG
31"x10.5's and I plan to get BFG 33"x10.5's... so I will not have to
purchase new wheels, and I already have the lift. The concensus is
that I can probably tolerate the "loss in power" for a while at least
until I can get my gears upgraded... so I guess I will try it.

Also, being a 97 tj, my fender flares are very very faded. I am
considering doing something to the fenders to "rejuvenate them." I
think I will try to take them off an get them rhino-lined or line-
x'ed. I think it would be a different/cool look. I figured it would
be a cheaper alternative to some bushwackers. Anyone have any other
"custom" stuff they have done to their fender flares that has turned
out good??

Thanks,

Jimmy

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

On Feb 2, 10:30 am, jbjeep <jbj...@saw.net> wrote:
> depends on a lot of things, driving style, gear ratio, etc.
>
> I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
> call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
> 33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
> -jenn
>
> On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >>Terrible.
> >>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
> >>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
> >>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks so much for everyone's input! I really appreciate it.

I think I will go ahead and get the 33"s. I already have BFG
31"x10.5's and I plan to get BFG 33"x10.5's... so I will not have to
purchase new wheels, and I already have the lift. The concensus is
that I can probably tolerate the "loss in power" for a while at least
until I can get my gears upgraded... so I guess I will try it.

Also, being a 97 tj, my fender flares are very very faded. I am
considering doing something to the fenders to "rejuvenate them." I
think I will try to take them off an get them rhino-lined or line-
x'ed. I think it would be a different/cool look. I figured it would
be a cheaper alternative to some bushwackers. Anyone have any other
"custom" stuff they have done to their fender flares that has turned
out good??

Thanks,

Jimmy

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

On Feb 2, 10:30 am, jbjeep <jbj...@saw.net> wrote:
> depends on a lot of things, driving style, gear ratio, etc.
>
> I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
> call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
> 33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
> -jenn
>
> On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >>Terrible.
> >>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
> >>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
> >>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks so much for everyone's input! I really appreciate it.

I think I will go ahead and get the 33"s. I already have BFG
31"x10.5's and I plan to get BFG 33"x10.5's... so I will not have to
purchase new wheels, and I already have the lift. The concensus is
that I can probably tolerate the "loss in power" for a while at least
until I can get my gears upgraded... so I guess I will try it.

Also, being a 97 tj, my fender flares are very very faded. I am
considering doing something to the fenders to "rejuvenate them." I
think I will try to take them off an get them rhino-lined or line-
x'ed. I think it would be a different/cool look. I figured it would
be a cheaper alternative to some bushwackers. Anyone have any other
"custom" stuff they have done to their fender flares that has turned
out good??

Thanks,

Jimmy

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

On Feb 2, 10:30 am, jbjeep <jbj...@saw.net> wrote:
> depends on a lot of things, driving style, gear ratio, etc.
>
> I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
> call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
> 33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
> -jenn
>
> On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >>Terrible.
> >>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
> >>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
> >>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks so much for everyone's input! I really appreciate it.

I think I will go ahead and get the 33"s. I already have BFG
31"x10.5's and I plan to get BFG 33"x10.5's... so I will not have to
purchase new wheels, and I already have the lift. The concensus is
that I can probably tolerate the "loss in power" for a while at least
until I can get my gears upgraded... so I guess I will try it.

Also, being a 97 tj, my fender flares are very very faded. I am
considering doing something to the fenders to "rejuvenate them." I
think I will try to take them off an get them rhino-lined or line-
x'ed. I think it would be a different/cool look. I figured it would
be a cheaper alternative to some bushwackers. Anyone have any other
"custom" stuff they have done to their fender flares that has turned
out good??

Thanks,

Jimmy

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

Going price aroudn here is $1200 for the two axles.

JimG wrote:

> <jmastrom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170367446.267877.64460@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>On Feb 1, 4:47 pm, "JimG" <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I can speak from experience on your setup, but it depends on your stock
>>>gearing. When I got my TJ (4.0L 5-speed) it had the 33's and the
>>>original
>>>gearing of 3.73. 5th gear was pretty much worthless for any incline.
>>>Spent
>>>allot of time in 4th gear on the highways. It wasn't long till I changed
>>>to
>>>the 4.56 gears and got the proper speedo gear. A few months ago my son
>>>bought a YJ (4.0L 5-speed) with 33's and stock gears of 3.07. Not only
>>>was
>>>his 5th gear useless but his 4th was sorry also. On any incline he has
>>>to
>>>go all the way to 3rd to maintain speed. We are in the process of
>>>switching
>>>out his axles from a donor 4 cylinder YJ (4.11 gears).
>>>
>>>--
>>>JimG
>>>80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
>>>4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
>>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
>>>D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
>>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
>>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>>>
>>>00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
>>>4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
>>>33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
>>>D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>>>Warn X8000i
>>>
>>><Thoth> wrote in message...
>>>
>>>>Terrible.
>>>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
>>
>>Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my setup
>>would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I expect to pay to
>>upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even go this route or just wait
>>until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>>
>
>
> Well, since you have already invested in the lift... get the 33's and see
> how it does. Stick with 10.50's for a bit less weight. Drive it as long as
> you can stand it, then do the gears. I estimate $900 to have the gears
> done. Add another $400 or so for a limited slip in the rear while your at
> it.
>
> Jim
>
>

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

Going price aroudn here is $1200 for the two axles.

JimG wrote:

> <jmastrom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170367446.267877.64460@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>On Feb 1, 4:47 pm, "JimG" <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I can speak from experience on your setup, but it depends on your stock
>>>gearing. When I got my TJ (4.0L 5-speed) it had the 33's and the
>>>original
>>>gearing of 3.73. 5th gear was pretty much worthless for any incline.
>>>Spent
>>>allot of time in 4th gear on the highways. It wasn't long till I changed
>>>to
>>>the 4.56 gears and got the proper speedo gear. A few months ago my son
>>>bought a YJ (4.0L 5-speed) with 33's and stock gears of 3.07. Not only
>>>was
>>>his 5th gear useless but his 4th was sorry also. On any incline he has
>>>to
>>>go all the way to 3rd to maintain speed. We are in the process of
>>>switching
>>>out his axles from a donor 4 cylinder YJ (4.11 gears).
>>>
>>>--
>>>JimG
>>>80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
>>>4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
>>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
>>>D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
>>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
>>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>>>
>>>00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
>>>4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
>>>33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
>>>D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>>>Warn X8000i
>>>
>>><Thoth> wrote in message...
>>>
>>>>Terrible.
>>>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
>>
>>Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my setup
>>would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I expect to pay to
>>upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even go this route or just wait
>>until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>>
>
>
> Well, since you have already invested in the lift... get the 33's and see
> how it does. Stick with 10.50's for a bit less weight. Drive it as long as
> you can stand it, then do the gears. I estimate $900 to have the gears
> done. Add another $400 or so for a limited slip in the rear while your at
> it.
>
> Jim
>
>

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

Going price aroudn here is $1200 for the two axles.

JimG wrote:

> <jmastrom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170367446.267877.64460@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>On Feb 1, 4:47 pm, "JimG" <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I can speak from experience on your setup, but it depends on your stock
>>>gearing. When I got my TJ (4.0L 5-speed) it had the 33's and the
>>>original
>>>gearing of 3.73. 5th gear was pretty much worthless for any incline.
>>>Spent
>>>allot of time in 4th gear on the highways. It wasn't long till I changed
>>>to
>>>the 4.56 gears and got the proper speedo gear. A few months ago my son
>>>bought a YJ (4.0L 5-speed) with 33's and stock gears of 3.07. Not only
>>>was
>>>his 5th gear useless but his 4th was sorry also. On any incline he has
>>>to
>>>go all the way to 3rd to maintain speed. We are in the process of
>>>switching
>>>out his axles from a donor 4 cylinder YJ (4.11 gears).
>>>
>>>--
>>>JimG
>>>80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
>>>4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
>>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
>>>D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
>>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
>>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>>>
>>>00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
>>>4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
>>>33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
>>>D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>>>Warn X8000i
>>>
>>><Thoth> wrote in message...
>>>
>>>>Terrible.
>>>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
>>
>>Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my setup
>>would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I expect to pay to
>>upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even go this route or just wait
>>until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>>
>
>
> Well, since you have already invested in the lift... get the 33's and see
> how it does. Stick with 10.50's for a bit less weight. Drive it as long as
> you can stand it, then do the gears. I estimate $900 to have the gears
> done. Add another $400 or so for a limited slip in the rear while your at
> it.
>
> Jim
>
>

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

Going price aroudn here is $1200 for the two axles.

JimG wrote:

> <jmastrom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170367446.267877.64460@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>On Feb 1, 4:47 pm, "JimG" <J...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I can speak from experience on your setup, but it depends on your stock
>>>gearing. When I got my TJ (4.0L 5-speed) it had the 33's and the
>>>original
>>>gearing of 3.73. 5th gear was pretty much worthless for any incline.
>>>Spent
>>>allot of time in 4th gear on the highways. It wasn't long till I changed
>>>to
>>>the 4.56 gears and got the proper speedo gear. A few months ago my son
>>>bought a YJ (4.0L 5-speed) with 33's and stock gears of 3.07. Not only
>>>was
>>>his 5th gear useless but his 4th was sorry also. On any incline he has
>>>to
>>>go all the way to 3rd to maintain speed. We are in the process of
>>>switching
>>>out his axles from a donor 4 cylinder YJ (4.11 gears).
>>>
>>>--
>>>JimG
>>>80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
>>>4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
>>>35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
>>>D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
>>>Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
>>>Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>>>
>>>00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
>>>4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
>>>33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
>>>D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
>>>Warn X8000i
>>>
>>><Thoth> wrote in message...
>>>
>>>>Terrible.
>>>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
>>
>>Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my setup
>>would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I expect to pay to
>>upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even go this route or just wait
>>until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>>
>
>
> Well, since you have already invested in the lift... get the 33's and see
> how it does. Stick with 10.50's for a bit less weight. Drive it as long as
> you can stand it, then do the gears. I estimate $900 to have the gears
> done. Add another $400 or so for a limited slip in the rear while your at
> it.
>
> Jim
>
>

Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
 

Go to a hardware store and find a few cans of Black spray paint for
plastic. I did mine a few years back and they still look good. Try Ace
or True Value. Or one of the Box stores.

Later Mike