Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
#51
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
<jmastrom@gmail.com> wrote in message
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....
> Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my
> setup would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I
> expect to pay to upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even
> go this route or just wait until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>
You already have the "good" stock gear ratio (4.11/4.10) with that four
cylinder, so 33s won't be that bad, except for losing fifth gear. If you
really want the look from the 33s, then go for it.
Earle
news:1170367446.267877.64460@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
....
> Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my
> setup would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I
> expect to pay to upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even
> go this route or just wait until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>
You already have the "good" stock gear ratio (4.11/4.10) with that four
cylinder, so 33s won't be that bad, except for losing fifth gear. If you
really want the look from the 33s, then go for it.
Earle
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
<jmastrom@gmail.com> wrote in message
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....
> Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my
> setup would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I
> expect to pay to upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even
> go this route or just wait until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>
You already have the "good" stock gear ratio (4.11/4.10) with that four
cylinder, so 33s won't be that bad, except for losing fifth gear. If you
really want the look from the 33s, then go for it.
Earle
news:1170367446.267877.64460@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
....
> Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my
> setup would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I
> expect to pay to upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even
> go this route or just wait until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>
You already have the "good" stock gear ratio (4.11/4.10) with that four
cylinder, so 33s won't be that bad, except for losing fifth gear. If you
really want the look from the 33s, then go for it.
Earle
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
#53
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
<jmastrom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170367446.267877.64460@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
....
> Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my
> setup would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I
> expect to pay to upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even
> go this route or just wait until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>
You already have the "good" stock gear ratio (4.11/4.10) with that four
cylinder, so 33s won't be that bad, except for losing fifth gear. If you
really want the look from the 33s, then go for it.
Earle
news:1170367446.267877.64460@k78g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
....
> Ok... well... if I am hearing everyone correctly... 33"s with my
> setup would be bad, unless I get new gears? How much can I
> expect to pay to upgrade my jeep to new gears. Should I even
> go this route or just wait until I have a 4.0L jeep later on in life.
>
You already have the "good" stock gear ratio (4.11/4.10) with that four
cylinder, so 33s won't be that bad, except for losing fifth gear. If you
really want the look from the 33s, then go for it.
Earle
02-01-2007, 10:05 PM
#54
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
Didn't see that. Brain fart.
I'm going by memory from when I had mine changed, now that I think of it it
was around $900 for both axles...
"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Matt, read the OP's opener.... he already has the 4" superlift. He has
> already gone down the road, partially. And $300 per axle would be an
> exceptional deal unless you're talking about installing them yourself.
>
> My estimate each axle:
> gears $150
> install kit $60
> labor $200-$250
>
> Jim
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" wrote in message...
>> Keep in mind in addition to the gear change, you will also need to lift
>> it a bit to clear the 33's, and you only gain 1" of clearance under the
>> axles with the 33's vs. the 31's.
>>
>> So figure $300+ per axle for the gear change, 500+ for a minimum 3 inch
>> suspention lift (3 inch body lifts are way more trouble than they are
>> worth, and look stupid to boot), plus the new wheels and tires (new
>> wheels because 12.5" wide tires on the stock wheels will contact the
>> upper spring perches).
>>
>> Or slap a set of 31's on and be done with it, use the money you saved
>> from not lifting to get a winch, so when you do get stuck you can still
>> get out.
>>
>> Which should you do? Hey man, it's your money! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
I'm going by memory from when I had mine changed, now that I think of it it
was around $900 for both axles...
"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1Qvwh.1746$B25.970@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt, read the OP's opener.... he already has the 4" superlift. He has
> already gone down the road, partially. And $300 per axle would be an
> exceptional deal unless you're talking about installing them yourself.
>
> My estimate each axle:
> gears $150
> install kit $60
> labor $200-$250
>
> Jim
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" wrote in message...
>> Keep in mind in addition to the gear change, you will also need to lift
>> it a bit to clear the 33's, and you only gain 1" of clearance under the
>> axles with the 33's vs. the 31's.
>>
>> So figure $300+ per axle for the gear change, 500+ for a minimum 3 inch
>> suspention lift (3 inch body lifts are way more trouble than they are
>> worth, and look stupid to boot), plus the new wheels and tires (new
>> wheels because 12.5" wide tires on the stock wheels will contact the
>> upper spring perches).
>>
>> Or slap a set of 31's on and be done with it, use the money you saved
>> from not lifting to get a winch, so when you do get stuck you can still
>> get out.
>>
>> Which should you do? Hey man, it's your money! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
02-01-2007, 10:05 PM
#55
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
Didn't see that. Brain fart.
I'm going by memory from when I had mine changed, now that I think of it it
was around $900 for both axles...
"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1Qvwh.1746$B25.970@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt, read the OP's opener.... he already has the 4" superlift. He has
> already gone down the road, partially. And $300 per axle would be an
> exceptional deal unless you're talking about installing them yourself.
>
> My estimate each axle:
> gears $150
> install kit $60
> labor $200-$250
>
> Jim
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" wrote in message...
>> Keep in mind in addition to the gear change, you will also need to lift
>> it a bit to clear the 33's, and you only gain 1" of clearance under the
>> axles with the 33's vs. the 31's.
>>
>> So figure $300+ per axle for the gear change, 500+ for a minimum 3 inch
>> suspention lift (3 inch body lifts are way more trouble than they are
>> worth, and look stupid to boot), plus the new wheels and tires (new
>> wheels because 12.5" wide tires on the stock wheels will contact the
>> upper spring perches).
>>
>> Or slap a set of 31's on and be done with it, use the money you saved
>> from not lifting to get a winch, so when you do get stuck you can still
>> get out.
>>
>> Which should you do? Hey man, it's your money! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
I'm going by memory from when I had mine changed, now that I think of it it
was around $900 for both axles...
"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1Qvwh.1746$B25.970@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt, read the OP's opener.... he already has the 4" superlift. He has
> already gone down the road, partially. And $300 per axle would be an
> exceptional deal unless you're talking about installing them yourself.
>
> My estimate each axle:
> gears $150
> install kit $60
> labor $200-$250
>
> Jim
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" wrote in message...
>> Keep in mind in addition to the gear change, you will also need to lift
>> it a bit to clear the 33's, and you only gain 1" of clearance under the
>> axles with the 33's vs. the 31's.
>>
>> So figure $300+ per axle for the gear change, 500+ for a minimum 3 inch
>> suspention lift (3 inch body lifts are way more trouble than they are
>> worth, and look stupid to boot), plus the new wheels and tires (new
>> wheels because 12.5" wide tires on the stock wheels will contact the
>> upper spring perches).
>>
>> Or slap a set of 31's on and be done with it, use the money you saved
>> from not lifting to get a winch, so when you do get stuck you can still
>> get out.
>>
>> Which should you do? Hey man, it's your money! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
02-01-2007, 10:05 PM
#56
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
Didn't see that. Brain fart.
I'm going by memory from when I had mine changed, now that I think of it it
was around $900 for both axles...
"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1Qvwh.1746$B25.970@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt, read the OP's opener.... he already has the 4" superlift. He has
> already gone down the road, partially. And $300 per axle would be an
> exceptional deal unless you're talking about installing them yourself.
>
> My estimate each axle:
> gears $150
> install kit $60
> labor $200-$250
>
> Jim
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" wrote in message...
>> Keep in mind in addition to the gear change, you will also need to lift
>> it a bit to clear the 33's, and you only gain 1" of clearance under the
>> axles with the 33's vs. the 31's.
>>
>> So figure $300+ per axle for the gear change, 500+ for a minimum 3 inch
>> suspention lift (3 inch body lifts are way more trouble than they are
>> worth, and look stupid to boot), plus the new wheels and tires (new
>> wheels because 12.5" wide tires on the stock wheels will contact the
>> upper spring perches).
>>
>> Or slap a set of 31's on and be done with it, use the money you saved
>> from not lifting to get a winch, so when you do get stuck you can still
>> get out.
>>
>> Which should you do? Hey man, it's your money! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
I'm going by memory from when I had mine changed, now that I think of it it
was around $900 for both axles...
"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1Qvwh.1746$B25.970@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt, read the OP's opener.... he already has the 4" superlift. He has
> already gone down the road, partially. And $300 per axle would be an
> exceptional deal unless you're talking about installing them yourself.
>
> My estimate each axle:
> gears $150
> install kit $60
> labor $200-$250
>
> Jim
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" wrote in message...
>> Keep in mind in addition to the gear change, you will also need to lift
>> it a bit to clear the 33's, and you only gain 1" of clearance under the
>> axles with the 33's vs. the 31's.
>>
>> So figure $300+ per axle for the gear change, 500+ for a minimum 3 inch
>> suspention lift (3 inch body lifts are way more trouble than they are
>> worth, and look stupid to boot), plus the new wheels and tires (new
>> wheels because 12.5" wide tires on the stock wheels will contact the
>> upper spring perches).
>>
>> Or slap a set of 31's on and be done with it, use the money you saved
>> from not lifting to get a winch, so when you do get stuck you can still
>> get out.
>>
>> Which should you do? Hey man, it's your money! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
02-01-2007, 10:05 PM
#57
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
Didn't see that. Brain fart.
I'm going by memory from when I had mine changed, now that I think of it it
was around $900 for both axles...
"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1Qvwh.1746$B25.970@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt, read the OP's opener.... he already has the 4" superlift. He has
> already gone down the road, partially. And $300 per axle would be an
> exceptional deal unless you're talking about installing them yourself.
>
> My estimate each axle:
> gears $150
> install kit $60
> labor $200-$250
>
> Jim
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" wrote in message...
>> Keep in mind in addition to the gear change, you will also need to lift
>> it a bit to clear the 33's, and you only gain 1" of clearance under the
>> axles with the 33's vs. the 31's.
>>
>> So figure $300+ per axle for the gear change, 500+ for a minimum 3 inch
>> suspention lift (3 inch body lifts are way more trouble than they are
>> worth, and look stupid to boot), plus the new wheels and tires (new
>> wheels because 12.5" wide tires on the stock wheels will contact the
>> upper spring perches).
>>
>> Or slap a set of 31's on and be done with it, use the money you saved
>> from not lifting to get a winch, so when you do get stuck you can still
>> get out.
>>
>> Which should you do? Hey man, it's your money! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
I'm going by memory from when I had mine changed, now that I think of it it
was around $900 for both axles...
"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1Qvwh.1746$B25.970@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt, read the OP's opener.... he already has the 4" superlift. He has
> already gone down the road, partially. And $300 per axle would be an
> exceptional deal unless you're talking about installing them yourself.
>
> My estimate each axle:
> gears $150
> install kit $60
> labor $200-$250
>
> Jim
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" wrote in message...
>> Keep in mind in addition to the gear change, you will also need to lift
>> it a bit to clear the 33's, and you only gain 1" of clearance under the
>> axles with the 33's vs. the 31's.
>>
>> So figure $300+ per axle for the gear change, 500+ for a minimum 3 inch
>> suspention lift (3 inch body lifts are way more trouble than they are
>> worth, and look stupid to boot), plus the new wheels and tires (new
>> wheels because 12.5" wide tires on the stock wheels will contact the
>> upper spring perches).
>>
>> Or slap a set of 31's on and be done with it, use the money you saved
>> from not lifting to get a winch, so when you do get stuck you can still
>> get out.
>>
>> Which should you do? Hey man, it's your money! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
02-02-2007, 12:30 AM
#58
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
depends on a lot of things, driving style, gear ratio, etc.
I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
-jenn
On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>Terrible.
>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
-jenn
On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>Terrible.
>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
02-02-2007, 12:30 AM
#59
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
depends on a lot of things, driving style, gear ratio, etc.
I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
-jenn
On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>Terrible.
>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
-jenn
On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>Terrible.
>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
02-02-2007, 12:30 AM
#60
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Re: Need help! 4cyl 97 TJ.... Tire Choice 31" or 33"
depends on a lot of things, driving style, gear ratio, etc.
I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
-jenn
On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>Terrible.
>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?
I ran a 6cy with a manual, stock 3.73's and 33's for quite a few years. I wouldnt
call 5th gear useless, but...I used it less than I did than when I had the 30's on.
33's and 4.56's did great. which went downhill again when I went to 35's.
-jenn
On 1 Feb 2007 12:17:15 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>Terrible.
>>Not to take away from this thread, but I'm curious - I have a 4.0 6cyl
>>and I'm running stock 30" and no lift. In all honesty how bad will it
>>be when I lift 3.5 " and slap 33's on there?