twaldron

Hmm. 4 gals. on 15 would be too much on E. Two would be perfect. Just
out of curiousity, why did you go with a 15 instead of a 20 gal.
replacement?

Paul Brogren wrote:

> Thanks,
>
> I probably won't mess with. It's hard to describe, but it seems that after
> fill up after fill up that the " Reserve" volume is increasing. When it was
> first installed there was just over 2 gallons approx. at empty. Now theres
> between 3 1/2 to 4 gallons left. Trust me I love having the extra fuel as a
> reserve, but if this is increasing I would like to know why?
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:EpjCb.674$CC5.362@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
>>I don't understand why you wouldn't want a 2+ gal. reserve. I think it's
>>perfect as is. I used to have a 90 YJ Laredo that took forever to get
>>from a full tank to 1/3. When it hit 1/3, it would drop in about 10
>>miles. I ran that thing outta gas 3 times. I've got the cheap plastic
>>one gal. gas cans to prove it. :)
>>
>>Paul Brogren wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>During the summer I installed a new 15 gallon fuel tank. Also a new
>
> sending
>
>>>unit. Before the install I thought I checked the sending unit for
>>>calibration. It seemed okay at the time. I thought wrong. Luckily it
>
> was
>
>>>in my favor. My gauge will go from full tank to empty on the needle,
>
> but at
>
>>>the empty mark I still have 2 -4 gallons still in the tank. I feel
>
> lucky
>
>>>that this is the case, but if I wanted to correct the error how would I
>>>re-calibrate the sending unit? '75 CJ5 258
>>>>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________

Paul Brogren

Hey Tom,

I went with the 15 gal. only because it was a direct replacement. I'd never
changed a tank out before and the 20 gallon if I remember needed some
modifications or some different mounts or plates. Can't remember right off
hand. For the amount of trouble I went though I wished I'd done the 20.

Tonight I hit the 33 -35 mile range since I filled up and my gauge is almost
a 1/3 down. I've checked the mpg and I average 13 - 14mpg. Four complete
tanks. 500 - 600 miles driven. Thats both highway and in town. I think I
need to rebuild the carb. Seems I should see 15 -16 mpg. I know the needle
and seat have worn because I am having some hard starts after driving.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:tRxCb.850$CC5.669@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Hmm. 4 gals. on 15 would be too much on E. Two would be perfect. Just
> out of curiousity, why did you go with a 15 instead of a 20 gal.
> replacement?
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > I probably won't mess with. It's hard to describe, but it seems that
after
> > fill up after fill up that the " Reserve" volume is increasing. When it
was
> > first installed there was just over 2 gallons approx. at empty. Now
theres
> > between 3 1/2 to 4 gallons left. Trust me I love having the extra fuel
as a
> > reserve, but if this is increasing I would like to know why?
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:EpjCb.674$CC5.362@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >
> >>I don't understand why you wouldn't want a 2+ gal. reserve. I think it's
> >>perfect as is. I used to have a 90 YJ Laredo that took forever to get
> >>from a full tank to 1/3. When it hit 1/3, it would drop in about 10
> >>miles. I ran that thing outta gas 3 times. I've got the cheap plastic
> >>one gal. gas cans to prove it. :)
> >>
> >>Paul Brogren wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>During the summer I installed a new 15 gallon fuel tank. Also a new
> >
> > sending
> >
> >>>unit. Before the install I thought I checked the sending unit for
> >>>calibration. It seemed okay at the time. I thought wrong. Luckily it
> >
> > was
> >
> >>>in my favor. My gauge will go from full tank to empty on the needle,
> >
> > but at
> >
> >>>the empty mark I still have 2 -4 gallons still in the tank. I feel
> >
> > lucky
> >
> >>>that this is the case, but if I wanted to correct the error how would I
> >>>re-calibrate the sending unit? '75 CJ5 258
> >>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
> to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
> we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
> say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
> unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
> -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)
>
> "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
> a woman."
> -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)
>
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Paul Brogren

Hey Tom,

I went with the 15 gal. only because it was a direct replacement. I'd never
changed a tank out before and the 20 gallon if I remember needed some
modifications or some different mounts or plates. Can't remember right off
hand. For the amount of trouble I went though I wished I'd done the 20.

Tonight I hit the 33 -35 mile range since I filled up and my gauge is almost
a 1/3 down. I've checked the mpg and I average 13 - 14mpg. Four complete
tanks. 500 - 600 miles driven. Thats both highway and in town. I think I
need to rebuild the carb. Seems I should see 15 -16 mpg. I know the needle
and seat have worn because I am having some hard starts after driving.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:tRxCb.850$CC5.669@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Hmm. 4 gals. on 15 would be too much on E. Two would be perfect. Just
> out of curiousity, why did you go with a 15 instead of a 20 gal.
> replacement?
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > I probably won't mess with. It's hard to describe, but it seems that
after
> > fill up after fill up that the " Reserve" volume is increasing. When it
was
> > first installed there was just over 2 gallons approx. at empty. Now
theres
> > between 3 1/2 to 4 gallons left. Trust me I love having the extra fuel
as a
> > reserve, but if this is increasing I would like to know why?
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:EpjCb.674$CC5.362@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >
> >>I don't understand why you wouldn't want a 2+ gal. reserve. I think it's
> >>perfect as is. I used to have a 90 YJ Laredo that took forever to get
> >>from a full tank to 1/3. When it hit 1/3, it would drop in about 10
> >>miles. I ran that thing outta gas 3 times. I've got the cheap plastic
> >>one gal. gas cans to prove it. :)
> >>
> >>Paul Brogren wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>During the summer I installed a new 15 gallon fuel tank. Also a new
> >
> > sending
> >
> >>>unit. Before the install I thought I checked the sending unit for
> >>>calibration. It seemed okay at the time. I thought wrong. Luckily it
> >
> > was
> >
> >>>in my favor. My gauge will go from full tank to empty on the needle,
> >
> > but at
> >
> >>>the empty mark I still have 2 -4 gallons still in the tank. I feel
> >
> > lucky
> >
> >>>that this is the case, but if I wanted to correct the error how would I
> >>>re-calibrate the sending unit? '75 CJ5 258
> >>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
> to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
> we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
> say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
> unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
> -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)
>
> "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
> a woman."
> -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)
>
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Paul Brogren

Hey Tom,

I went with the 15 gal. only because it was a direct replacement. I'd never
changed a tank out before and the 20 gallon if I remember needed some
modifications or some different mounts or plates. Can't remember right off
hand. For the amount of trouble I went though I wished I'd done the 20.

Tonight I hit the 33 -35 mile range since I filled up and my gauge is almost
a 1/3 down. I've checked the mpg and I average 13 - 14mpg. Four complete
tanks. 500 - 600 miles driven. Thats both highway and in town. I think I
need to rebuild the carb. Seems I should see 15 -16 mpg. I know the needle
and seat have worn because I am having some hard starts after driving.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:tRxCb.850$CC5.669@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. ..
> Hmm. 4 gals. on 15 would be too much on E. Two would be perfect. Just
> out of curiousity, why did you go with a 15 instead of a 20 gal.
> replacement?
>
> Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > I probably won't mess with. It's hard to describe, but it seems that
after
> > fill up after fill up that the " Reserve" volume is increasing. When it
was
> > first installed there was just over 2 gallons approx. at empty. Now
theres
> > between 3 1/2 to 4 gallons left. Trust me I love having the extra fuel
as a
> > reserve, but if this is increasing I would like to know why?
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:EpjCb.674$CC5.362@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >
> >>I don't understand why you wouldn't want a 2+ gal. reserve. I think it's
> >>perfect as is. I used to have a 90 YJ Laredo that took forever to get
> >>from a full tank to 1/3. When it hit 1/3, it would drop in about 10
> >>miles. I ran that thing outta gas 3 times. I've got the cheap plastic
> >>one gal. gas cans to prove it. :)
> >>
> >>Paul Brogren wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>During the summer I installed a new 15 gallon fuel tank. Also a new
> >
> > sending
> >
> >>>unit. Before the install I thought I checked the sending unit for
> >>>calibration. It seemed okay at the time. I thought wrong. Luckily it
> >
> > was
> >
> >>>in my favor. My gauge will go from full tank to empty on the needle,
> >
> > but at
> >
> >>>the empty mark I still have 2 -4 gallons still in the tank. I feel
> >
> > lucky
> >
> >>>that this is the case, but if I wanted to correct the error how would I
> >>>re-calibrate the sending unit? '75 CJ5 258
> >>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
> to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
> we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
> say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
> unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
> -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)
>
> "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
> a woman."
> -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)
>
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

Paul Brogren

You're right with that Jim. I checked out the link that Jeepster posted and
I got the info I wanted. I did check for leaks on the return line too.
Found nothing. I hate it. drive 35 miles and be just above half tank. Oh
yeah, when it is full it reads full then drops off fast.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:hcvCb.6478$Rq6.512@news02.roc.ny...
> How does it read when full? Does it fall off after just a dozen or so
> miles? IMHO, empty and 2 gallons out of 15 left would be OK, that's like
> 13%, but 4 out of 15 is over 25%. I would want my gauge to say almost 1/4
> at 4 out of 15. If you want to adjust it, you have to remove the sender
and
> bend the arm that holds the float down a bit, so it's closer to the bottom
> of the tank at rest (empty). With nearly 4 gallons at empty, it gives you
a
> false sense of hope and you will push it.... and push it... I don't want
> insurrance (I pay too much for that already), I want to know exactly how
> much is left!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brbki8$18p4k$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > During the summer I installed a new 15 gallon fuel tank. Also a new
> sending
> > unit. Before the install I thought I checked the sending unit for
> > calibration. It seemed okay at the time. I thought wrong. Luckily it
> was
> > in my favor. My gauge will go from full tank to empty on the needle,
but
> at
> > the empty mark I still have 2 -4 gallons still in the tank. I feel
lucky
> > that this is the case, but if I wanted to correct the error how would I
> > re-calibrate the sending unit? '75 CJ5 258
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.
> >
> >
>
>

Paul Brogren

You're right with that Jim. I checked out the link that Jeepster posted and
I got the info I wanted. I did check for leaks on the return line too.
Found nothing. I hate it. drive 35 miles and be just above half tank. Oh
yeah, when it is full it reads full then drops off fast.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:hcvCb.6478$Rq6.512@news02.roc.ny...
> How does it read when full? Does it fall off after just a dozen or so
> miles? IMHO, empty and 2 gallons out of 15 left would be OK, that's like
> 13%, but 4 out of 15 is over 25%. I would want my gauge to say almost 1/4
> at 4 out of 15. If you want to adjust it, you have to remove the sender
and
> bend the arm that holds the float down a bit, so it's closer to the bottom
> of the tank at rest (empty). With nearly 4 gallons at empty, it gives you
a
> false sense of hope and you will push it.... and push it... I don't want
> insurrance (I pay too much for that already), I want to know exactly how
> much is left!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brbki8$18p4k$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > During the summer I installed a new 15 gallon fuel tank. Also a new
> sending
> > unit. Before the install I thought I checked the sending unit for
> > calibration. It seemed okay at the time. I thought wrong. Luckily it
> was
> > in my favor. My gauge will go from full tank to empty on the needle,
but
> at
> > the empty mark I still have 2 -4 gallons still in the tank. I feel
lucky
> > that this is the case, but if I wanted to correct the error how would I
> > re-calibrate the sending unit? '75 CJ5 258
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.
> >
> >
>
>

Paul Brogren

You're right with that Jim. I checked out the link that Jeepster posted and
I got the info I wanted. I did check for leaks on the return line too.
Found nothing. I hate it. drive 35 miles and be just above half tank. Oh
yeah, when it is full it reads full then drops off fast.

--
Thanks Always !!!
Paul '75 CJ5 258
Vail, CO.
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:hcvCb.6478$Rq6.512@news02.roc.ny...
> How does it read when full? Does it fall off after just a dozen or so
> miles? IMHO, empty and 2 gallons out of 15 left would be OK, that's like
> 13%, but 4 out of 15 is over 25%. I would want my gauge to say almost 1/4
> at 4 out of 15. If you want to adjust it, you have to remove the sender
and
> bend the arm that holds the float down a bit, so it's closer to the bottom
> of the tank at rest (empty). With nearly 4 gallons at empty, it gives you
a
> false sense of hope and you will push it.... and push it... I don't want
> insurrance (I pay too much for that already), I want to know exactly how
> much is left!
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brbki8$18p4k$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > During the summer I installed a new 15 gallon fuel tank. Also a new
> sending
> > unit. Before the install I thought I checked the sending unit for
> > calibration. It seemed okay at the time. I thought wrong. Luckily it
> was
> > in my favor. My gauge will go from full tank to empty on the needle,
but
> at
> > the empty mark I still have 2 -4 gallons still in the tank. I feel
lucky
> > that this is the case, but if I wanted to correct the error how would I
> > re-calibrate the sending unit? '75 CJ5 258
> >
> > --
> > Thanks Always !!!
> > Paul '75 CJ5 258
> > Vail, CO.
> >
> >
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

With a fifteen gallon tank you can see your rear end, TW, can't.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Hey Tom,
>
> I went with the 15 gal. only because it was a direct replacement. I'd never
> changed a tank out before and the 20 gallon if I remember needed some
> modifications or some different mounts or plates. Can't remember right off
> hand. For the amount of trouble I went though I wished I'd done the 20.
>
> Tonight I hit the 33 -35 mile range since I filled up and my gauge is almost
> a 1/3 down. I've checked the mpg and I average 13 - 14mpg. Four complete
> tanks. 500 - 600 miles driven. Thats both highway and in town. I think I
> need to rebuild the carb. Seems I should see 15 -16 mpg. I know the needle
> and seat have worn because I am having some hard starts after driving.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

With a fifteen gallon tank you can see your rear end, TW, can't.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Hey Tom,
>
> I went with the 15 gal. only because it was a direct replacement. I'd never
> changed a tank out before and the 20 gallon if I remember needed some
> modifications or some different mounts or plates. Can't remember right off
> hand. For the amount of trouble I went though I wished I'd done the 20.
>
> Tonight I hit the 33 -35 mile range since I filled up and my gauge is almost
> a 1/3 down. I've checked the mpg and I average 13 - 14mpg. Four complete
> tanks. 500 - 600 miles driven. Thats both highway and in town. I think I
> need to rebuild the carb. Seems I should see 15 -16 mpg. I know the needle
> and seat have worn because I am having some hard starts after driving.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

With a fifteen gallon tank you can see your rear end, TW, can't.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Brogren wrote:
>
> Hey Tom,
>
> I went with the 15 gal. only because it was a direct replacement. I'd never
> changed a tank out before and the 20 gallon if I remember needed some
> modifications or some different mounts or plates. Can't remember right off
> hand. For the amount of trouble I went though I wished I'd done the 20.
>
> Tonight I hit the 33 -35 mile range since I filled up and my gauge is almost
> a 1/3 down. I've checked the mpg and I average 13 - 14mpg. Four complete
> tanks. 500 - 600 miles driven. Thats both highway and in town. I think I
> need to rebuild the carb. Seems I should see 15 -16 mpg. I know the needle
> and seat have worn because I am having some hard starts after driving.