Jerry Bransford

OME have an excellent reputation, as do Doetch Tech DT-3000 shocks for less
than half the cost of the OME shocks. Bilstein has good shocks for TJs too
but you have to make sure they are the models SPECIFICALLY valved for the TJ
or you'll just get their regular gas-charged shocks which are generally too
stiff. I agree that the Rancho R5000 and RSX shocks are not a good choice,
neither is ProComp's ES-3000 which is as stiff as the R5000 is.

Jerry
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"Phinz" <Canes&Phinz@#1.com> wrote in message
news:3f60b8c25aa4f5a9ec7a4ce7d5af411a@news.teranew s.com...
> I already have an '02. What shocks would you suggest instead of the
Ranchos?
>
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:urem705acm85ec3tvfqcno7pde8vj4mgrn@4ax.com...
> > 1) Why an 02? Or do you already have the particular vehicle chosen?
> > 2) 31x10.5's should be fine, but you may have to adjust the steering
> > stops to reduce the turn radius a bit.
> > 3) Stay away from the RS5000 (and probably the RSX's too). Stiff
> > shock, doubt you'll be happy with the ride. And, no need for the
> > stabilizer... that's over-kill with 31's.
> > 4) Body lift... don't go there. Go with a ~2" coil spacer lift IMO,
> > about the same price.
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:27:36 GMT, "Phinz" <Canes&Phinz@#1.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I'm about to get my income tax return and plan to blow it on my '02
> > >Wrangler. For starters I need to get new tires and have decided on
> keeping
> > >my factory wheels and going one size up to 31x10.5 15, which I
understand
> is
> > >the largest tire that will fit those rims??? (will they rub??)
> > >
> > >I also want to replace the factory shocks with some new Rancho RSX or
> RS5000
> > >(* Buy 3 get 1 free*, which is better?) and possibly a Rancho steering
> > >stabilizer. I want to do this to get a nicer ride while on the road.
> > >
> > >What I really need help with is deciding on whether I need a body lift
> ( 2")
> > >or will I be OK without it. I cant afford to get a suspension lift.
(at
> > >least for this year)
> > >Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> >
>
>

Joseph P

I run a 2 inch coil spacer lift, 32 inch BFGs, AR 767 (cheapo black
ones) 15x8 rims with 4 inch backspace, and only hit flares at full
stuff, did not have to adjust my steering stops at all, and already
bought Rancho RSXs for all four corners...have yet to put them on,
will post when I do, let everyone know how they ride, though it sounds
like they are stiff...but I am young and don't care yet! And never,
ever do a body lift more than 1 inch, for so many reasons I am not
even going to start listing them. Just think about what a body lift
does for your jeep, with physics in mind, and you suddenly won't want
one anymore. Although 1 inch won't hurt...much. And BTW I got the
coil spacers for all four corners on EBay for $65.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:etnm70hd8simijpo6nuaikbhv---g3lc5q@4ax.com...
| On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:27:36 GMT, "Phinz" <Canes&Phinz@#1.com>
wrote:
|
| >>I'm about to get my income tax return and plan to blow it on my
'02
| >>Wrangler. For starters I need to get new tires and have decided on
keeping
| >>my factory wheels and going one size up to 31x10.5 15, which I
understand is
| >>the largest tire that will fit those rims??? (will they rub??)
|
| Possibly, but not much. If they rub on the control arms you simply
need to add a
| washer or two behind the steering stops. If you rub at full stuff
you need a little
| more lift (or more bumpstop). The 2" spacer (see below) would
eliminate that
| problem.
|
| >>I also want to replace the factory shocks with some new Rancho RSX
or RS5000
| >>(* Buy 3 get 1 free*, which is better?) and possibly a Rancho
steering
| >>stabilizer. I want to do this to get a nicer ride while on the
road.
| >>
| >>What I really need help with is deciding on whether I need a body
lift ( 2")
| >>or will I be OK without it. I cant afford to get a suspension
lift. (at
| >>least for this year)
|
| I would not do more than a 1" body lift. Ever. You would be better
off IMO with a
| spacer lift until the time you can afford a full suspension lift.
|
| >>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
|
| Suggestion (it has worked for me so far) - get a good picture in
your mind of what
| you want your rig to be like a year from now, 5 years, 10 years,
etc. Build with the
| future in mind, not just what you can do today. You may have to
wait for the
| goodies, but you will build a better trail rig - that is, if thats
what you want it
| to be.
|
| I have always wanted mine lifted, locked, loaded, caged, 5pt
harness, 35" tires,
| Atlas, winch, etc. Well, one step at a time I am getting there.
the 36" tires
| should go on in a week or so, the Atlas has to wait another year or
two since the $ I
| saved for that went towards the new engine after the roll. The new
seats and
| harnesses will come after the atlas and at the same time, the rest
of the cage will
| go in. Most of the rest has been slowly built up in in the last 5
years.
|
| In otherwords, know where you are going and build a roadmap to get
there. <grin>
|

Joseph P

I run a 2 inch coil spacer lift, 32 inch BFGs, AR 767 (cheapo black
ones) 15x8 rims with 4 inch backspace, and only hit flares at full
stuff, did not have to adjust my steering stops at all, and already
bought Rancho RSXs for all four corners...have yet to put them on,
will post when I do, let everyone know how they ride, though it sounds
like they are stiff...but I am young and don't care yet! And never,
ever do a body lift more than 1 inch, for so many reasons I am not
even going to start listing them. Just think about what a body lift
does for your jeep, with physics in mind, and you suddenly won't want
one anymore. Although 1 inch won't hurt...much. And BTW I got the
coil spacers for all four corners on EBay for $65.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:etnm70hd8simijpo6nuaikbhv---g3lc5q@4ax.com...
| On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:27:36 GMT, "Phinz" <Canes&Phinz@#1.com>
wrote:
|
| >>I'm about to get my income tax return and plan to blow it on my
'02
| >>Wrangler. For starters I need to get new tires and have decided on
keeping
| >>my factory wheels and going one size up to 31x10.5 15, which I
understand is
| >>the largest tire that will fit those rims??? (will they rub??)
|
| Possibly, but not much. If they rub on the control arms you simply
need to add a
| washer or two behind the steering stops. If you rub at full stuff
you need a little
| more lift (or more bumpstop). The 2" spacer (see below) would
eliminate that
| problem.
|
| >>I also want to replace the factory shocks with some new Rancho RSX
or RS5000
| >>(* Buy 3 get 1 free*, which is better?) and possibly a Rancho
steering
| >>stabilizer. I want to do this to get a nicer ride while on the
road.
| >>
| >>What I really need help with is deciding on whether I need a body
lift ( 2")
| >>or will I be OK without it. I cant afford to get a suspension
lift. (at
| >>least for this year)
|
| I would not do more than a 1" body lift. Ever. You would be better
off IMO with a
| spacer lift until the time you can afford a full suspension lift.
|
| >>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
|
| Suggestion (it has worked for me so far) - get a good picture in
your mind of what
| you want your rig to be like a year from now, 5 years, 10 years,
etc. Build with the
| future in mind, not just what you can do today. You may have to
wait for the
| goodies, but you will build a better trail rig - that is, if thats
what you want it
| to be.
|
| I have always wanted mine lifted, locked, loaded, caged, 5pt
harness, 35" tires,
| Atlas, winch, etc. Well, one step at a time I am getting there.
the 36" tires
| should go on in a week or so, the Atlas has to wait another year or
two since the $ I
| saved for that went towards the new engine after the roll. The new
seats and
| harnesses will come after the atlas and at the same time, the rest
of the cage will
| go in. Most of the rest has been slowly built up in in the last 5
years.
|
| In otherwords, know where you are going and build a roadmap to get
there. <grin>
|

Joseph P

I run a 2 inch coil spacer lift, 32 inch BFGs, AR 767 (cheapo black
ones) 15x8 rims with 4 inch backspace, and only hit flares at full
stuff, did not have to adjust my steering stops at all, and already
bought Rancho RSXs for all four corners...have yet to put them on,
will post when I do, let everyone know how they ride, though it sounds
like they are stiff...but I am young and don't care yet! And never,
ever do a body lift more than 1 inch, for so many reasons I am not
even going to start listing them. Just think about what a body lift
does for your jeep, with physics in mind, and you suddenly won't want
one anymore. Although 1 inch won't hurt...much. And BTW I got the
coil spacers for all four corners on EBay for $65.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:etnm70hd8simijpo6nuaikbhv---g3lc5q@4ax.com...
| On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:27:36 GMT, "Phinz" <Canes&Phinz@#1.com>
wrote:
|
| >>I'm about to get my income tax return and plan to blow it on my
'02
| >>Wrangler. For starters I need to get new tires and have decided on
keeping
| >>my factory wheels and going one size up to 31x10.5 15, which I
understand is
| >>the largest tire that will fit those rims??? (will they rub??)
|
| Possibly, but not much. If they rub on the control arms you simply
need to add a
| washer or two behind the steering stops. If you rub at full stuff
you need a little
| more lift (or more bumpstop). The 2" spacer (see below) would
eliminate that
| problem.
|
| >>I also want to replace the factory shocks with some new Rancho RSX
or RS5000
| >>(* Buy 3 get 1 free*, which is better?) and possibly a Rancho
steering
| >>stabilizer. I want to do this to get a nicer ride while on the
road.
| >>
| >>What I really need help with is deciding on whether I need a body
lift ( 2")
| >>or will I be OK without it. I cant afford to get a suspension
lift. (at
| >>least for this year)
|
| I would not do more than a 1" body lift. Ever. You would be better
off IMO with a
| spacer lift until the time you can afford a full suspension lift.
|
| >>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
|
| Suggestion (it has worked for me so far) - get a good picture in
your mind of what
| you want your rig to be like a year from now, 5 years, 10 years,
etc. Build with the
| future in mind, not just what you can do today. You may have to
wait for the
| goodies, but you will build a better trail rig - that is, if thats
what you want it
| to be.
|
| I have always wanted mine lifted, locked, loaded, caged, 5pt
harness, 35" tires,
| Atlas, winch, etc. Well, one step at a time I am getting there.
the 36" tires
| should go on in a week or so, the Atlas has to wait another year or
two since the $ I
| saved for that went towards the new engine after the roll. The new
seats and
| harnesses will come after the atlas and at the same time, the rest
of the cage will
| go in. Most of the rest has been slowly built up in in the last 5
years.
|
| In otherwords, know where you are going and build a roadmap to get
there. <grin>
|

Joseph P

I run a 2 inch coil spacer lift, 32 inch BFGs, AR 767 (cheapo black
ones) 15x8 rims with 4 inch backspace, and only hit flares at full
stuff, did not have to adjust my steering stops at all, and already
bought Rancho RSXs for all four corners...have yet to put them on,
will post when I do, let everyone know how they ride, though it sounds
like they are stiff...but I am young and don't care yet! And never,
ever do a body lift more than 1 inch, for so many reasons I am not
even going to start listing them. Just think about what a body lift
does for your jeep, with physics in mind, and you suddenly won't want
one anymore. Although 1 inch won't hurt...much. And BTW I got the
coil spacers for all four corners on EBay for $65.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:etnm70hd8simijpo6nuaikbhv---g3lc5q@4ax.com...
| On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:27:36 GMT, "Phinz" <Canes&Phinz@#1.com>
wrote:
|
| >>I'm about to get my income tax return and plan to blow it on my
'02
| >>Wrangler. For starters I need to get new tires and have decided on
keeping
| >>my factory wheels and going one size up to 31x10.5 15, which I
understand is
| >>the largest tire that will fit those rims??? (will they rub??)
|
| Possibly, but not much. If they rub on the control arms you simply
need to add a
| washer or two behind the steering stops. If you rub at full stuff
you need a little
| more lift (or more bumpstop). The 2" spacer (see below) would
eliminate that
| problem.
|
| >>I also want to replace the factory shocks with some new Rancho RSX
or RS5000
| >>(* Buy 3 get 1 free*, which is better?) and possibly a Rancho
steering
| >>stabilizer. I want to do this to get a nicer ride while on the
road.
| >>
| >>What I really need help with is deciding on whether I need a body
lift ( 2")
| >>or will I be OK without it. I cant afford to get a suspension
lift. (at
| >>least for this year)
|
| I would not do more than a 1" body lift. Ever. You would be better
off IMO with a
| spacer lift until the time you can afford a full suspension lift.
|
| >>Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
|
| Suggestion (it has worked for me so far) - get a good picture in
your mind of what
| you want your rig to be like a year from now, 5 years, 10 years,
etc. Build with the
| future in mind, not just what you can do today. You may have to
wait for the
| goodies, but you will build a better trail rig - that is, if thats
what you want it
| to be.
|
| I have always wanted mine lifted, locked, loaded, caged, 5pt
harness, 35" tires,
| Atlas, winch, etc. Well, one step at a time I am getting there.
the 36" tires
| should go on in a week or so, the Atlas has to wait another year or
two since the $ I
| saved for that went towards the new engine after the roll. The new
seats and
| harnesses will come after the atlas and at the same time, the rest
of the cage will
| go in. Most of the rest has been slowly built up in in the last 5
years.
|
| In otherwords, know where you are going and build a roadmap to get
there. <grin>
|

David C. Moller

Good suggestions... I'll add Edelbrock Performer IAS shocks to the
list since that's what I run (and am happy with them). Pricey sons a
guns though hehehehe.

Dave

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:27:43 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>OME have an excellent reputation, as do Doetch Tech DT-3000 shocks for less
>than half the cost of the OME shocks. Bilstein has good shocks for TJs too
>but you have to make sure they are the models SPECIFICALLY valved for the TJ
>or you'll just get their regular gas-charged shocks which are generally too
>stiff. I agree that the Rancho R5000 and RSX shocks are not a good choice,
>neither is ProComp's ES-3000 which is as stiff as the R5000 is.
>
>Jerry

David C. Moller

Good suggestions... I'll add Edelbrock Performer IAS shocks to the
list since that's what I run (and am happy with them). Pricey sons a
guns though hehehehe.

Dave

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:27:43 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>OME have an excellent reputation, as do Doetch Tech DT-3000 shocks for less
>than half the cost of the OME shocks. Bilstein has good shocks for TJs too
>but you have to make sure they are the models SPECIFICALLY valved for the TJ
>or you'll just get their regular gas-charged shocks which are generally too
>stiff. I agree that the Rancho R5000 and RSX shocks are not a good choice,
>neither is ProComp's ES-3000 which is as stiff as the R5000 is.
>
>Jerry

David C. Moller

Good suggestions... I'll add Edelbrock Performer IAS shocks to the
list since that's what I run (and am happy with them). Pricey sons a
guns though hehehehe.

Dave

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:27:43 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>OME have an excellent reputation, as do Doetch Tech DT-3000 shocks for less
>than half the cost of the OME shocks. Bilstein has good shocks for TJs too
>but you have to make sure they are the models SPECIFICALLY valved for the TJ
>or you'll just get their regular gas-charged shocks which are generally too
>stiff. I agree that the Rancho R5000 and RSX shocks are not a good choice,
>neither is ProComp's ES-3000 which is as stiff as the R5000 is.
>
>Jerry

David C. Moller

Good suggestions... I'll add Edelbrock Performer IAS shocks to the
list since that's what I run (and am happy with them). Pricey sons a
guns though hehehehe.

Dave

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:27:43 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>OME have an excellent reputation, as do Doetch Tech DT-3000 shocks for less
>than half the cost of the OME shocks. Bilstein has good shocks for TJs too
>but you have to make sure they are the models SPECIFICALLY valved for the TJ
>or you'll just get their regular gas-charged shocks which are generally too
>stiff. I agree that the Rancho R5000 and RSX shocks are not a good choice,
>neither is ProComp's ES-3000 which is as stiff as the R5000 is.
>
>Jerry