Need Advice on body lift
#31
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
And even then you can wheel it and not worry about the body mounts failing
or anything. 2" spacer and 1" body is a good, low dollar way to 33's. You'll
rub the tires while flexing offroad but the functionality is there AND you
can keep both items when you decide it's time for a real suspension lift.
n.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:cdrre.44640$PR6.5730@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
>
> Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
> That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
> as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
>
> Eric
> <joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi Guys;
>>
>> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
>> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
>> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>>
>> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>>
>> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>>
>> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
>> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
>> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
>> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>>
>> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
>> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
>> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>>
>> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>>
>> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
>> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
>> well do 3".
>>
>> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
>> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
>
or anything. 2" spacer and 1" body is a good, low dollar way to 33's. You'll
rub the tires while flexing offroad but the functionality is there AND you
can keep both items when you decide it's time for a real suspension lift.
n.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:cdrre.44640$PR6.5730@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
>
> Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
> That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
> as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
>
> Eric
> <joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi Guys;
>>
>> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
>> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
>> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>>
>> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>>
>> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>>
>> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
>> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
>> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
>> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>>
>> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
>> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
>> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>>
>> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>>
>> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
>> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
>> well do 3".
>>
>> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
>> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
>
#32
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
And even then you can wheel it and not worry about the body mounts failing
or anything. 2" spacer and 1" body is a good, low dollar way to 33's. You'll
rub the tires while flexing offroad but the functionality is there AND you
can keep both items when you decide it's time for a real suspension lift.
n.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:cdrre.44640$PR6.5730@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
>
> Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
> That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
> as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
>
> Eric
> <joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi Guys;
>>
>> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
>> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
>> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>>
>> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>>
>> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>>
>> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
>> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
>> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
>> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>>
>> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
>> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
>> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>>
>> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>>
>> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
>> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
>> well do 3".
>>
>> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
>> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
>
or anything. 2" spacer and 1" body is a good, low dollar way to 33's. You'll
rub the tires while flexing offroad but the functionality is there AND you
can keep both items when you decide it's time for a real suspension lift.
n.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:cdrre.44640$PR6.5730@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
>
> Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
> That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
> as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
>
> Eric
> <joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi Guys;
>>
>> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
>> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
>> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>>
>> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>>
>> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>>
>> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
>> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
>> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
>> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>>
>> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
>> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
>> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>>
>> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>>
>> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
>> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
>> well do 3".
>>
>> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
>> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
>
#33
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
And even then you can wheel it and not worry about the body mounts failing
or anything. 2" spacer and 1" body is a good, low dollar way to 33's. You'll
rub the tires while flexing offroad but the functionality is there AND you
can keep both items when you decide it's time for a real suspension lift.
n.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:cdrre.44640$PR6.5730@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
>
> Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
> That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
> as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
>
> Eric
> <joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi Guys;
>>
>> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
>> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
>> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>>
>> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>>
>> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>>
>> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
>> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
>> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
>> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>>
>> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
>> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
>> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>>
>> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>>
>> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
>> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
>> well do 3".
>>
>> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
>> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
>
or anything. 2" spacer and 1" body is a good, low dollar way to 33's. You'll
rub the tires while flexing offroad but the functionality is there AND you
can keep both items when you decide it's time for a real suspension lift.
n.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:cdrre.44640$PR6.5730@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
>
> Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
> That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
> as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
>
> Eric
> <joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi Guys;
>>
>> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
>> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
>> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>>
>> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>>
>> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>>
>> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
>> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
>> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
>> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>>
>> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
>> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
>> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>>
>> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>>
>> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
>> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
>> well do 3".
>>
>> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
>> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
>
#34
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
bad situation!
I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
Thanks again everybody!
Joe
everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
bad situation!
I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
Thanks again everybody!
Joe
#35
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Posts: n/a
Re: Need Advice on body lift
Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
bad situation!
I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
Thanks again everybody!
Joe
everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
bad situation!
I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
Thanks again everybody!
Joe
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Need Advice on body lift
Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
bad situation!
I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
Thanks again everybody!
Joe
everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
bad situation!
I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
Thanks again everybody!
Joe
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Need Advice on body lift
Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
bad situation!
I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
Thanks again everybody!
Joe
everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
bad situation!
I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
Thanks again everybody!
Joe
#38
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
Okay, you likely have 3.07 diff ratio. Your AX-15 transmission ratios
are: 1st:3.83, 2nd:2.33, 3rd:1.44, 4th:1.00, 5th:0.79, Rev:4.22
So, with 28" tires in 5th at 65mph:
(3.07 * 0.79 * 65 * 336 ) / 28 = 1892 RPM
That's already pretty sluggish, so you'll not use 5th much if you get
31" tires (1700 RPM @ 65mph). Nice thing about a manual though is that
you can live with it - just cruise in 4th:
(3.07 * 1.00 * 65 * 336 ) / 31 = 2162 RPM
.... which is a nice cruising RPM at that speed with heavier wider tires.
You'll also kiss 5th goodbye with 30"s, so may as well try the 31"s.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
joet11@comcast.net wrote:
> Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
> everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
> bad situation!
>
> I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
>
> If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
> will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
> is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
> that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
>
> Thanks again everybody!
>
> Joe
are: 1st:3.83, 2nd:2.33, 3rd:1.44, 4th:1.00, 5th:0.79, Rev:4.22
So, with 28" tires in 5th at 65mph:
(3.07 * 0.79 * 65 * 336 ) / 28 = 1892 RPM
That's already pretty sluggish, so you'll not use 5th much if you get
31" tires (1700 RPM @ 65mph). Nice thing about a manual though is that
you can live with it - just cruise in 4th:
(3.07 * 1.00 * 65 * 336 ) / 31 = 2162 RPM
.... which is a nice cruising RPM at that speed with heavier wider tires.
You'll also kiss 5th goodbye with 30"s, so may as well try the 31"s.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
joet11@comcast.net wrote:
> Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
> everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
> bad situation!
>
> I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
>
> If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
> will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
> is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
> that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
>
> Thanks again everybody!
>
> Joe
#39
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
Okay, you likely have 3.07 diff ratio. Your AX-15 transmission ratios
are: 1st:3.83, 2nd:2.33, 3rd:1.44, 4th:1.00, 5th:0.79, Rev:4.22
So, with 28" tires in 5th at 65mph:
(3.07 * 0.79 * 65 * 336 ) / 28 = 1892 RPM
That's already pretty sluggish, so you'll not use 5th much if you get
31" tires (1700 RPM @ 65mph). Nice thing about a manual though is that
you can live with it - just cruise in 4th:
(3.07 * 1.00 * 65 * 336 ) / 31 = 2162 RPM
.... which is a nice cruising RPM at that speed with heavier wider tires.
You'll also kiss 5th goodbye with 30"s, so may as well try the 31"s.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
joet11@comcast.net wrote:
> Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
> everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
> bad situation!
>
> I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
>
> If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
> will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
> is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
> that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
>
> Thanks again everybody!
>
> Joe
are: 1st:3.83, 2nd:2.33, 3rd:1.44, 4th:1.00, 5th:0.79, Rev:4.22
So, with 28" tires in 5th at 65mph:
(3.07 * 0.79 * 65 * 336 ) / 28 = 1892 RPM
That's already pretty sluggish, so you'll not use 5th much if you get
31" tires (1700 RPM @ 65mph). Nice thing about a manual though is that
you can live with it - just cruise in 4th:
(3.07 * 1.00 * 65 * 336 ) / 31 = 2162 RPM
.... which is a nice cruising RPM at that speed with heavier wider tires.
You'll also kiss 5th goodbye with 30"s, so may as well try the 31"s.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
joet11@comcast.net wrote:
> Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
> everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
> bad situation!
>
> I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
>
> If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
> will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
> is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
> that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
>
> Thanks again everybody!
>
> Joe
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: Need Advice on body lift
Okay, you likely have 3.07 diff ratio. Your AX-15 transmission ratios
are: 1st:3.83, 2nd:2.33, 3rd:1.44, 4th:1.00, 5th:0.79, Rev:4.22
So, with 28" tires in 5th at 65mph:
(3.07 * 0.79 * 65 * 336 ) / 28 = 1892 RPM
That's already pretty sluggish, so you'll not use 5th much if you get
31" tires (1700 RPM @ 65mph). Nice thing about a manual though is that
you can live with it - just cruise in 4th:
(3.07 * 1.00 * 65 * 336 ) / 31 = 2162 RPM
.... which is a nice cruising RPM at that speed with heavier wider tires.
You'll also kiss 5th goodbye with 30"s, so may as well try the 31"s.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
joet11@comcast.net wrote:
> Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
> everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
> bad situation!
>
> I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
>
> If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
> will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
> is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
> that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
>
> Thanks again everybody!
>
> Joe
are: 1st:3.83, 2nd:2.33, 3rd:1.44, 4th:1.00, 5th:0.79, Rev:4.22
So, with 28" tires in 5th at 65mph:
(3.07 * 0.79 * 65 * 336 ) / 28 = 1892 RPM
That's already pretty sluggish, so you'll not use 5th much if you get
31" tires (1700 RPM @ 65mph). Nice thing about a manual though is that
you can live with it - just cruise in 4th:
(3.07 * 1.00 * 65 * 336 ) / 31 = 2162 RPM
.... which is a nice cruising RPM at that speed with heavier wider tires.
You'll also kiss 5th goodbye with 30"s, so may as well try the 31"s.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
joet11@comcast.net wrote:
> Oh Man - I obviously didn't know what I didn't know! Thanks a lot
> everyone for the great advice - looks like you guys helped me avoid a
> bad situation!
>
> I apologize for the next question because I'm totally new to this but:
>
> If I keep it simple and go with option 1, Steve indicated that my RPMs
> will drop to 1880 (my TJ is a 6cyl manual 5-speed),
> is that very noticeable? Would I have to change gear ratios? (Or is
> that still stupid and I should just go with 30's)
>
> Thanks again everybody!
>
> Joe