Need Advice on body lift
06-13-2005, 10:21 PM
#21
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
Did the shop also remind you that changing to taller tires will lower
your RPMs? Formula is:
rpm = ( gear_ratio * 336 ) / tire_diameter_inches
For example, assuming you have 3.54 ratio differential gears and an auto
transmission, you should be turning about 2070 RPM @ 65 MPH in overdrive
(0.75) with your 28" tires. That drops to 1880 RPM for 31" tires and
1760 RPM for 33" tires. Engine starts lugging and drinking gas, you get
annoyed because it has no zip.
The cure for bigger tires is replacing differential gears. This can cost
big money, perhaps more than you're willing to spend for just 'looks'.
If you have a manual trans, you may be able to live with taller tires by
cruising in 4th instead of 5th. Maybe another option to consider is
15x7 rim with 30x9.50 tire.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
joet11@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
your RPMs? Formula is:
rpm = ( gear_ratio * 336 ) / tire_diameter_inches
For example, assuming you have 3.54 ratio differential gears and an auto
transmission, you should be turning about 2070 RPM @ 65 MPH in overdrive
(0.75) with your 28" tires. That drops to 1880 RPM for 31" tires and
1760 RPM for 33" tires. Engine starts lugging and drinking gas, you get
annoyed because it has no zip.
The cure for bigger tires is replacing differential gears. This can cost
big money, perhaps more than you're willing to spend for just 'looks'.
If you have a manual trans, you may be able to live with taller tires by
cruising in 4th instead of 5th. Maybe another option to consider is
15x7 rim with 30x9.50 tire.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
joet11@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
#22
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
Eric
<joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
Eric
<joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
#23
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
Eric
<joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
Eric
<joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
#24
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
Eric
<joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
Eric
<joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Need Advice on body lift
I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
Eric
<joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
Eric
<joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi Guys;
>
> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>
> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>
> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>
> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>
> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>
> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>
> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
> well do 3".
>
> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>
> Joe
>
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
#26
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
Sometimes, the paint job is uglier than the body lift.
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umba.../wrangler5.jpg
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umbau/2000-02/jeep3.jpg
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to respond till I read this. Any one recommending anything
> much over 1" body lift should have their head examined. It looks bad (IMO)
> and can be unsafe as it causes more stresses on the body mounts.
>
> I'm not having luck finding pictures, but I'm sure someone will post up
> soon.
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umba.../wrangler5.jpg
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umbau/2000-02/jeep3.jpg
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to respond till I read this. Any one recommending anything
> much over 1" body lift should have their head examined. It looks bad (IMO)
> and can be unsafe as it causes more stresses on the body mounts.
>
> I'm not having luck finding pictures, but I'm sure someone will post up
> soon.
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
#27
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
Sometimes, the paint job is uglier than the body lift.
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umba.../wrangler5.jpg
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umbau/2000-02/jeep3.jpg
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to respond till I read this. Any one recommending anything
> much over 1" body lift should have their head examined. It looks bad (IMO)
> and can be unsafe as it causes more stresses on the body mounts.
>
> I'm not having luck finding pictures, but I'm sure someone will post up
> soon.
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umba.../wrangler5.jpg
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umbau/2000-02/jeep3.jpg
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to respond till I read this. Any one recommending anything
> much over 1" body lift should have their head examined. It looks bad (IMO)
> and can be unsafe as it causes more stresses on the body mounts.
>
> I'm not having luck finding pictures, but I'm sure someone will post up
> soon.
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
#28
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
Sometimes, the paint job is uglier than the body lift.
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umba.../wrangler5.jpg
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umbau/2000-02/jeep3.jpg
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to respond till I read this. Any one recommending anything
> much over 1" body lift should have their head examined. It looks bad (IMO)
> and can be unsafe as it causes more stresses on the body mounts.
>
> I'm not having luck finding pictures, but I'm sure someone will post up
> soon.
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umba.../wrangler5.jpg
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umbau/2000-02/jeep3.jpg
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to respond till I read this. Any one recommending anything
> much over 1" body lift should have their head examined. It looks bad (IMO)
> and can be unsafe as it causes more stresses on the body mounts.
>
> I'm not having luck finding pictures, but I'm sure someone will post up
> soon.
06-13-2005, 10:24 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Need Advice on body lift
Sometimes, the paint job is uglier than the body lift.
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umba.../wrangler5.jpg
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umbau/2000-02/jeep3.jpg
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to respond till I read this. Any one recommending anything
> much over 1" body lift should have their head examined. It looks bad (IMO)
> and can be unsafe as it causes more stresses on the body mounts.
>
> I'm not having luck finding pictures, but I'm sure someone will post up
> soon.
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umba.../wrangler5.jpg
http://www.extrem-motorsport.de/umbau/2000-02/jeep3.jpg
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to respond till I read this. Any one recommending anything
> much over 1" body lift should have their head examined. It looks bad (IMO)
> and can be unsafe as it causes more stresses on the body mounts.
>
> I'm not having luck finding pictures, but I'm sure someone will post up
> soon.
06-14-2005, 12:40 AM
#30
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Re: Need Advice on body lift
And even then you can wheel it and not worry about the body mounts failing
or anything. 2" spacer and 1" body is a good, low dollar way to 33's. You'll
rub the tires while flexing offroad but the functionality is there AND you
can keep both items when you decide it's time for a real suspension lift.
n.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:cdrre.44640$PR6.5730@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
>
> Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
> That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
> as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
>
> Eric
> <joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi Guys;
>>
>> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
>> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
>> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>>
>> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>>
>> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>>
>> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
>> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
>> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
>> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>>
>> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
>> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
>> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>>
>> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>>
>> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
>> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
>> well do 3".
>>
>> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
>> would be greatly appreciated as well!
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
>
or anything. 2" spacer and 1" body is a good, low dollar way to 33's. You'll
rub the tires while flexing offroad but the functionality is there AND you
can keep both items when you decide it's time for a real suspension lift.
n.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:cdrre.44640$PR6.5730@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> I'll echo what everyone else said -- no more than 1" body lift.
>
> Go for a 2" coil spacer lift (about $80, at the most), and a 1" body lift.
> That's 3" total lift and you can fit 33's under there without a problem --
> as long as you don't take it offroad and disconnect your swaybars.
>
> Eric
> <joet11@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1118709024.979654.200740@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi Guys;
>>
>> I have a white 97 TJ sport with p225/75R15 tires and it's time for new
>> tires. I'd like to make the jeep look better so I talked with a local
>> guy who lifts Jeeps. He recommended the following options:
>>
>> Option 1: Get 15 x 8 wheels with 31/10.5 BFG AT tires.
>>
>> Option 2: Get a 3" body lift and 33 inch tires.
>>
>> To be honest, I've done little off roading and the Jeep is my daily
>> highway car (it has been for the last 127,000 miles) BUT I really want
>> to give it a new cooler look. I know NOTHING about the pro's and con's
>> of a body lift. Could you guys please answer a couple of questions?
>>
>> 1. My college age kids want to drive my Jeep and I'm a bit worried
>> that the 3" lift would make the jeep more tipsy by raising the Center
>> of gravity. Is this true and can it be offset by wider tires?
>>
>> 2. Is there any downside (other than price) for option 2?
>>
>> 3. Would a 2" body lift be a better compromise - he said he wouldn't
>> recommend it. Basically, he said if you're going to do it might as
>> well do 3".
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>> Thanks for your help! (Any links to pics of two or 3 inch body lifts
>> would be greatly appreciated as well!
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>> Joe
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