Need advice on 97 TJ?
02-04-2004, 05:41 PM
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Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
Then the alternator is not connected to the battery via the
solenoid.
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Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
solenoid.
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Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
02-04-2004, 06:21 PM
#32
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Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > suspects in his response, too.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > >
> > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > suspects in his response, too.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > >
> > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
02-04-2004, 06:21 PM
#33
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Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > suspects in his response, too.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > >
> > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > suspects in his response, too.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > >
> > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
02-04-2004, 06:21 PM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > suspects in his response, too.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > >
> > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > suspects in his response, too.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > >
> > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
02-05-2004, 01:00 AM
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Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
Thanks for the reply. Now I am lost. I was told that by using a multitester, hooking up the
positive and negative, setting the DC V 25, I should see the battery read at 12 V and when
the jeep is running, it should be around 13-15V. If I got that, then the alternator is
running fine. Am I doing the test wrong? What kind of number I should be getting? Thanks.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
>
> Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
> distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
>
> The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
> If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lynn wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> > meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> > alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> > the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> > for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> > charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> > Once again, thanks for all the help.
> >
> > "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > > suspects in his response, too.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Dave
> > > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
positive and negative, setting the DC V 25, I should see the battery read at 12 V and when
the jeep is running, it should be around 13-15V. If I got that, then the alternator is
running fine. Am I doing the test wrong? What kind of number I should be getting? Thanks.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
>
> Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
> distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
>
> The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
> If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lynn wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> > meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> > alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> > the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> > for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> > charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> > Once again, thanks for all the help.
> >
> > "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > > suspects in his response, too.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Dave
> > > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
02-05-2004, 01:00 AM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
Thanks for the reply. Now I am lost. I was told that by using a multitester, hooking up the
positive and negative, setting the DC V 25, I should see the battery read at 12 V and when
the jeep is running, it should be around 13-15V. If I got that, then the alternator is
running fine. Am I doing the test wrong? What kind of number I should be getting? Thanks.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
>
> Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
> distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
>
> The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
> If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lynn wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> > meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> > alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> > the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> > for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> > charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> > Once again, thanks for all the help.
> >
> > "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > > suspects in his response, too.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Dave
> > > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
positive and negative, setting the DC V 25, I should see the battery read at 12 V and when
the jeep is running, it should be around 13-15V. If I got that, then the alternator is
running fine. Am I doing the test wrong? What kind of number I should be getting? Thanks.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
>
> Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
> distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
>
> The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
> If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lynn wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> > meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> > alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> > the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> > for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> > charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> > Once again, thanks for all the help.
> >
> > "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > > suspects in his response, too.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Dave
> > > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
02-05-2004, 01:00 AM
#37
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Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
Thanks for the reply. Now I am lost. I was told that by using a multitester, hooking up the
positive and negative, setting the DC V 25, I should see the battery read at 12 V and when
the jeep is running, it should be around 13-15V. If I got that, then the alternator is
running fine. Am I doing the test wrong? What kind of number I should be getting? Thanks.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
>
> Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
> distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
>
> The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
> If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lynn wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> > meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> > alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> > the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> > for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> > charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> > Once again, thanks for all the help.
> >
> > "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > > suspects in his response, too.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Dave
> > > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
positive and negative, setting the DC V 25, I should see the battery read at 12 V and when
the jeep is running, it should be around 13-15V. If I got that, then the alternator is
running fine. Am I doing the test wrong? What kind of number I should be getting? Thanks.
Mike Romain wrote:
> You have a broken, loose or extremely dirty main battery cable.
>
> Likely the small red one off the battery where it bolts to the power
> distribution box. That is where the alternator feed hooks up.
>
> The alternator feed also has a fuse link wire on it right at that bolt.
> If that has blown, you will get the readings you are seeing.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lynn wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> > meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> > alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> > the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> > for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> > charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> > Once again, thanks for all the help.
> >
> > "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > > Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> > > suspects in his response, too.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> > > >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> > > >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> > > >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> > > >getting this right? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> > > >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> > > >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> > > >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> > > >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> > > >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> > > >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> > > >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> > > >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> > > >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> > > >> how many times you get it jump started.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> > > >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> > > >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> > > >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> > > >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> > > >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> > > >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> > > >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> > > >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> > > >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> > > >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> > > >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> > > >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> > > >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> > > >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> > > >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> > > >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> > > >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> > > >> >> >Here are my questions:
> > > >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> > > >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> > > >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> > > >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> > > >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> > > >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> > > >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Dave
> > > >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
02-05-2004, 02:24 AM
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Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
You told us "It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the
jeep is running". If the alternator was connected and charging "13V"
then it would have read that at the battery too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
jeep is running". If the alternator was connected and charging "13V"
then it would have read that at the battery too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
02-05-2004, 02:24 AM
#39
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Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
You told us "It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the
jeep is running". If the alternator was connected and charging "13V"
then it would have read that at the battery too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
jeep is running". If the alternator was connected and charging "13V"
then it would have read that at the battery too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
02-05-2004, 02:24 AM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
You told us "It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the
jeep is running". If the alternator was connected and charging "13V"
then it would have read that at the battery too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.
jeep is running". If the alternator was connected and charging "13V"
then it would have read that at the battery too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.