Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Maybe your just not driving it far enough to charge the battery....ever
think of that. So the trickle charger is a great idea.

Mike
98 TJ pms

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Maybe your just not driving it far enough to charge the battery....ever
think of that. So the trickle charger is a great idea.

Mike
98 TJ pms

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
suspects in his response, too.

Dave

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
>check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
>the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
>guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
>getting this right? Thanks.
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
>> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
>> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
>> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
>> to be wrong hehehehe.
>> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
>> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
>> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
>> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
>> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
>> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
>> how many times you get it jump started.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
>> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
>> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
>> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
>> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
>> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
>> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
>> >
>> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
>> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
>> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
>> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
>> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
>> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
>> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
>> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
>> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
>> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
>> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
>> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
>> >> >Here are my questions:
>> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
>> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
>> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
>> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
>> >> >Thanks in advance.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
>> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
>> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
suspects in his response, too.

Dave

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
>check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
>the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
>guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
>getting this right? Thanks.
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
>> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
>> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
>> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
>> to be wrong hehehehe.
>> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
>> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
>> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
>> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
>> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
>> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
>> how many times you get it jump started.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
>> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
>> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
>> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
>> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
>> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
>> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
>> >
>> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
>> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
>> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
>> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
>> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
>> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
>> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
>> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
>> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
>> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
>> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
>> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
>> >> >Here are my questions:
>> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
>> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
>> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
>> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
>> >> >Thanks in advance.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
>> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
>> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
suspects in his response, too.

Dave

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
>check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
>the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
>guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
>getting this right? Thanks.
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
>> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
>> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
>> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
>> to be wrong hehehehe.
>> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
>> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
>> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
>> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
>> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
>> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
>> how many times you get it jump started.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
>> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
>> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
>> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
>> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
>> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
>> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
>> >
>> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
>> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
>> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
>> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
>> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
>> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
>> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
>> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
>> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
>> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
>> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
>> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
>> >> >Here are my questions:
>> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
>> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
>> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
>> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
>> >> >Thanks in advance.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
>> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
>> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
Once again, thanks for all the help.

"David C. Moller" wrote:

> Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> suspects in his response, too.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> >getting this right? Thanks.
> >
> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> >> how many times you get it jump started.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> >> >> >Here are my questions:
> >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dave
> >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
Once again, thanks for all the help.

"David C. Moller" wrote:

> Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> suspects in his response, too.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> >getting this right? Thanks.
> >
> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> >> how many times you get it jump started.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> >> >> >Here are my questions:
> >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dave
> >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
Once again, thanks for all the help.

"David C. Moller" wrote:

> Yups, you're getting it right. Bill (LW) had some good possible
> suspects in his response, too.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:01:05 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the reply and information. Now it make sense to me. This morning I
> >check the charger and it said it is completely charge. I remove the charger and
> >the Jeep start up right away. Took it for a spin and it drives just fine. I
> >guess if the alternator is bad, in a few days, the Jeep would be dead again. Am I
> >getting this right? Thanks.
> >
> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmmm if they checked the 'recharging system', I would think they
> >> would have checked the alternator, too. Maybe someone else here has a
> >> second opinion on this particular problem? Believe me, I've been known
> >> to be wrong hehehehe.
> >> Not sure on the dealer... there are good ones and bad ones.
> >> And ya, basically the battery is used to start the vehicle, then the
> >> alternator takes over. If the alternator isn't functioning properly,
> >> the vehicle starts drawing current from the battery while running, and
> >> eventually the battery will go dead. Once you have a dead battery and
> >> a malfunctioning alternator, the vehicle won't keep running no matter
> >> how many times you get it jump started.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:20:53 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the same thing when the battery went
> >> >the first time. However, when I brought it to wal-mart to buy the new
> >> >battery, they gave me a check on the recharging system and told me it is
> >> >good. I thought that meant my alternator is good. Will the dealer do a
> >> >better job to determine if I have a good alternator or good? Also, does that
> >> >mean when the battery and/or alternator is shot, the jeep will not keep
> >> >running even I am able to start the jeep? Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >"David C. Moller" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:52:08 GMT, Lynn <lynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi folks. I have a 97 Sahara AT with 70K miles. I don't drive it that
> >> >> >often, once a month. I put in a new battery last year but I need to
> >> >> >recharge it every month. Last month, the battery went dead completely
> >> >> >(won't take recharge) and I replace another one. I drove the Jeep 3
> >> >> >weeks ago and it was dead again. I figure the battery was drain for not
> >> >> >driving it too often but this time it seems different. I can't get the
> >> >> >Jeep to stay on, once I jump start it and if I let go the gas, it will
> >> >> >die. When I press on the gas, instead of the normal gas noise (roaring
> >> >> >sound), I hear high pitch sound as I press on the gas (the sound go
> >> >> >higher as I press deeper on the gas pedal). I am letting the charger to
> >> >> >charge the battery over night to see what happen. If that doesn't work,
> >> >> >I plan to tow it to the dealer but like some advice before I do that.
> >> >> >Here are my questions:
> >> >> >1. How long battery normally last if I don't drive the Jeep?
> >> >> >2. Why won't the Jeep stay on when I let go the gas?
> >> >> >3. Does it mean the alternator or the battery is bad and that is why the
> >> >> >Jeep won't stay on?
> >> >> >Thanks in advance.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, for #2, I'd say the alternator is shot, which would also explain
> >> >> why the battery is always in need of a charge, and eventually ends up
> >> >> completely trashed. That should also fix #1.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dave
> >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Then the alternator is not connected to the battery via the
solenoid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.

Re: Need advice on 97 TJ?
 

Then the alternator is not connected to the battery via the
solenoid.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lynn wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the advice and suggestion. I check the battery and alternator with a
> meter. It seems the battery is reading at 11V and when the jeep is running, the
> alternator is giving a reading of 13V. I guess the alternator is working fine. I took
> the Jeep on the highway for 45 minutes and I will leave the jeep sitting in the garage
> for the next 4 days. I will check the battery next week, hopefully it is just not
> charge and drive enough. I will look into getting the battery buddy for the Jeep.
> Once again, thanks for all the help.