My TJ Problems
08-10-2007, 11:59 AM
#61
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Re: My TJ Problems
Ivan Jager wrote:
> On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
>> it? ;-)
>
> How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
> as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
> is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
> me now" light.
>
> Ivan
Ours turns on at 30 mph in 4th gear so it 'must' just be pointing the
way. :-)
I believe it relies on vacuum pressure from the way it acts but could be
mistaken, if rpm were in there it wouldn't come on at 'fast idle' rpm
speeds I wouldn't think.
Ours had a vacuum front axle disconnect too and we had to futz with the
gas pedal sometimes to get it to turn off the 4x4 light and unlock.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
>> it? ;-)
>
> How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
> as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
> is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
> me now" light.
>
> Ivan
Ours turns on at 30 mph in 4th gear so it 'must' just be pointing the
way. :-)
I believe it relies on vacuum pressure from the way it acts but could be
mistaken, if rpm were in there it wouldn't come on at 'fast idle' rpm
speeds I wouldn't think.
Ours had a vacuum front axle disconnect too and we had to futz with the
gas pedal sometimes to get it to turn off the 4x4 light and unlock.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
08-11-2007, 07:12 AM
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Re: My TJ Problems
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:49:18 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
wrote:
>Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come on?
>My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving 5spd
>for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>
>p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>distracting at night.
How about putting a small piece of electrical tape over the light. I
use to see this all the time with the Check Engine lights in the older
cars.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
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wrote:
>Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come on?
>My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving 5spd
>for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>
>p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>distracting at night.
How about putting a small piece of electrical tape over the light. I
use to see this all the time with the Check Engine lights in the older
cars.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
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08-11-2007, 07:12 AM
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Re: My TJ Problems
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:49:18 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
wrote:
>Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come on?
>My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving 5spd
>for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>
>p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>distracting at night.
How about putting a small piece of electrical tape over the light. I
use to see this all the time with the Check Engine lights in the older
cars.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
wrote:
>Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come on?
>My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving 5spd
>for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>
>p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>distracting at night.
How about putting a small piece of electrical tape over the light. I
use to see this all the time with the Check Engine lights in the older
cars.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
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08-11-2007, 07:12 AM
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Re: My TJ Problems
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:49:18 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
wrote:
>Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come on?
>My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving 5spd
>for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>
>p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>distracting at night.
How about putting a small piece of electrical tape over the light. I
use to see this all the time with the Check Engine lights in the older
cars.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
wrote:
>Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come on?
>My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving 5spd
>for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>
>p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>distracting at night.
How about putting a small piece of electrical tape over the light. I
use to see this all the time with the Check Engine lights in the older
cars.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
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08-11-2007, 07:12 AM
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Re: My TJ Problems
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:49:18 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
wrote:
>Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come on?
>My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving 5spd
>for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>
>p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>distracting at night.
How about putting a small piece of electrical tape over the light. I
use to see this all the time with the Check Engine lights in the older
cars.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
wrote:
>Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come on?
>My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving 5spd
>for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>
>p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>distracting at night.
How about putting a small piece of electrical tape over the light. I
use to see this all the time with the Check Engine lights in the older
cars.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
08-14-2007, 08:37 AM
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Re: My TJ Problems
In article <slrnfbp14f.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.cmu.e du>,
Ivan Jager <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
#On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
#> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
#> it? ;-)
#
#How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
#as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
#is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
#me now" light.
#
#Ivan
I've followed the indicator's recomendation for ***** and giggles and
if I'm on a flat road and I don't stomp on the gas after I shift, the
engine does not lug--even when it tells me to shift at what I would
think is too low a RPM. My WAG is that it's set up for saving gas.
Looking at the torque curve of the 4.0,
http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/curve_40.jpg
it's do able.
/herb
Ivan Jager <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
#On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
#> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
#> it? ;-)
#
#How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
#as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
#is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
#me now" light.
#
#Ivan
I've followed the indicator's recomendation for ***** and giggles and
if I'm on a flat road and I don't stomp on the gas after I shift, the
engine does not lug--even when it tells me to shift at what I would
think is too low a RPM. My WAG is that it's set up for saving gas.
Looking at the torque curve of the 4.0,
http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/curve_40.jpg
it's do able.
/herb
08-14-2007, 08:37 AM
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Re: My TJ Problems
In article <slrnfbp14f.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.cmu.e du>,
Ivan Jager <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
#On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
#> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
#> it? ;-)
#
#How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
#as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
#is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
#me now" light.
#
#Ivan
I've followed the indicator's recomendation for ***** and giggles and
if I'm on a flat road and I don't stomp on the gas after I shift, the
engine does not lug--even when it tells me to shift at what I would
think is too low a RPM. My WAG is that it's set up for saving gas.
Looking at the torque curve of the 4.0,
http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/curve_40.jpg
it's do able.
/herb
Ivan Jager <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
#On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
#> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
#> it? ;-)
#
#How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
#as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
#is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
#me now" light.
#
#Ivan
I've followed the indicator's recomendation for ***** and giggles and
if I'm on a flat road and I don't stomp on the gas after I shift, the
engine does not lug--even when it tells me to shift at what I would
think is too low a RPM. My WAG is that it's set up for saving gas.
Looking at the torque curve of the 4.0,
http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/curve_40.jpg
it's do able.
/herb
08-14-2007, 08:37 AM
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Re: My TJ Problems
In article <slrnfbp14f.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.cmu.e du>,
Ivan Jager <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
#On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
#> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
#> it? ;-)
#
#How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
#as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
#is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
#me now" light.
#
#Ivan
I've followed the indicator's recomendation for ***** and giggles and
if I'm on a flat road and I don't stomp on the gas after I shift, the
engine does not lug--even when it tells me to shift at what I would
think is too low a RPM. My WAG is that it's set up for saving gas.
Looking at the torque curve of the 4.0,
http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/curve_40.jpg
it's do able.
/herb
Ivan Jager <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
#On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
#> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
#> it? ;-)
#
#How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
#as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
#is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
#me now" light.
#
#Ivan
I've followed the indicator's recomendation for ***** and giggles and
if I'm on a flat road and I don't stomp on the gas after I shift, the
engine does not lug--even when it tells me to shift at what I would
think is too low a RPM. My WAG is that it's set up for saving gas.
Looking at the torque curve of the 4.0,
http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/curve_40.jpg
it's do able.
/herb
08-14-2007, 08:37 AM
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Re: My TJ Problems
In article <slrnfbp14f.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.cmu.e du>,
Ivan Jager <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
#On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
#> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
#> it? ;-)
#
#How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
#as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
#is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
#me now" light.
#
#Ivan
I've followed the indicator's recomendation for ***** and giggles and
if I'm on a flat road and I don't stomp on the gas after I shift, the
engine does not lug--even when it tells me to shift at what I would
think is too low a RPM. My WAG is that it's set up for saving gas.
Looking at the torque curve of the 4.0,
http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/curve_40.jpg
it's do able.
/herb
Ivan Jager <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
#On 2007-08-09, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
#> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
#> it? ;-)
#
#How does it determine when to turn that light on? I've seen it turn on
#as low as 1300 RPM, when shifting would lug the engine badly. AFAICT it
#is the "if I were an automatic transmission you would be fighting with
#me now" light.
#
#Ivan
I've followed the indicator's recomendation for ***** and giggles and
if I'm on a flat road and I don't stomp on the gas after I shift, the
engine does not lug--even when it tells me to shift at what I would
think is too low a RPM. My WAG is that it's set up for saving gas.
Looking at the torque curve of the 4.0,
http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/curve_40.jpg
it's do able.
/herb
08-15-2007, 07:59 PM
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Re: My TJ Problems
Dunno, mine has never worked for which I am quite grateful !
Dave Milne, Scotland
Mike Romain wrote:
> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
> it? ;-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> griffin wrote:
>> Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come
>> on?
>> My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving
>> 5spd
>> for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>>
>> p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>> distracting at night.
>>
>> <im_a_dingo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1186629405.097506.319390@e16g2000pri.googlegr oups.com...
>>> I have a 1999 4.0 TJ i just bought it a month ago and i was wondering
>>> at what rpm should i be shifting at during normal driving? i dont have
>>> the owners manual so anything you can clue me in on that i might need
>>> to know would help alot
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Dave Milne, Scotland
Mike Romain wrote:
> No, no, that isn't a shift indicator, that is a this side up arrow isn't
> it? ;-)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> griffin wrote:
>> Does a little yellow arrow on your gauge cluster in the top right come
>> on?
>> My TJ has one and it's a "shift indicator" although I've been driving
>> 5spd
>> for years and find it annoying, it's helpful for new drivers.
>>
>> p.s. is there any easy way to make that light stop turning on? I find it
>> distracting at night.
>>
>> <im_a_dingo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1186629405.097506.319390@e16g2000pri.googlegr oups.com...
>>> I have a 1999 4.0 TJ i just bought it a month ago and i was wondering
>>> at what rpm should i be shifting at during normal driving? i dont have
>>> the owners manual so anything you can clue me in on that i might need
>>> to know would help alot
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
