L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Greg,
Usually when the shock absorber piston and valving are bad, it's
seal will also be leaking oil. You didn't tell us whether you have the
cushy, flimsy TJ designed to be bouncy, uncontrolled.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> I don't know much about shocks, but everytime I've picked up a new shock
> that someone is putting in, or on a store shelf, they are compressed, and if
> released they come out and are very hard to push back in. Well doing my
> front axles I have shocks dissconnected, there is no bounce back in these
> shocks, I can push them in to any point and that's were they will stay till
> I pull it out. So as I say, I don't know much about shocks, maybe lift kit
> shocks are different, this is an older Warn Black Diamond lift kit, only
> reason I haven't put in a new lift kit is my articulation is fantastic. But
> can someone let me know if these are dead shocks?
> Greg

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Greg,
Usually when the shock absorber piston and valving are bad, it's
seal will also be leaking oil. You didn't tell us whether you have the
cushy, flimsy TJ designed to be bouncy, uncontrolled.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> I don't know much about shocks, but everytime I've picked up a new shock
> that someone is putting in, or on a store shelf, they are compressed, and if
> released they come out and are very hard to push back in. Well doing my
> front axles I have shocks dissconnected, there is no bounce back in these
> shocks, I can push them in to any point and that's were they will stay till
> I pull it out. So as I say, I don't know much about shocks, maybe lift kit
> shocks are different, this is an older Warn Black Diamond lift kit, only
> reason I haven't put in a new lift kit is my articulation is fantastic. But
> can someone let me know if these are dead shocks?
> Greg

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Greg,
Usually when the shock absorber piston and valving are bad, it's
seal will also be leaking oil. You didn't tell us whether you have the
cushy, flimsy TJ designed to be bouncy, uncontrolled.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> I don't know much about shocks, but everytime I've picked up a new shock
> that someone is putting in, or on a store shelf, they are compressed, and if
> released they come out and are very hard to push back in. Well doing my
> front axles I have shocks dissconnected, there is no bounce back in these
> shocks, I can push them in to any point and that's were they will stay till
> I pull it out. So as I say, I don't know much about shocks, maybe lift kit
> shocks are different, this is an older Warn Black Diamond lift kit, only
> reason I haven't put in a new lift kit is my articulation is fantastic. But
> can someone let me know if these are dead shocks?
> Greg

Greg

Sorry, forgot to mention it's an 81 CJ7, narrow track, 3 1/2 " Black
Diamond lift, with Black Diamond shocks. I will wait till all is back
together and try the bounce test. Thanks to all who replied.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:442841E6.D3611B44@***.net...
> Hi Greg,
> Usually when the shock absorber piston and valving are bad, it's
> seal will also be leaking oil. You didn't tell us whether you have the
> cushy, flimsy TJ designed to be bouncy, uncontrolled.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> I don't know much about shocks, but everytime I've picked up a new
>> shock
>> that someone is putting in, or on a store shelf, they are compressed, and
>> if
>> released they come out and are very hard to push back in. Well doing my
>> front axles I have shocks dissconnected, there is no bounce back in these
>> shocks, I can push them in to any point and that's were they will stay
>> till
>> I pull it out. So as I say, I don't know much about shocks, maybe lift
>> kit
>> shocks are different, this is an older Warn Black Diamond lift kit, only
>> reason I haven't put in a new lift kit is my articulation is fantastic.
>> But
>> can someone let me know if these are dead shocks?
>> Greg

Greg

Sorry, forgot to mention it's an 81 CJ7, narrow track, 3 1/2 " Black
Diamond lift, with Black Diamond shocks. I will wait till all is back
together and try the bounce test. Thanks to all who replied.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:442841E6.D3611B44@***.net...
> Hi Greg,
> Usually when the shock absorber piston and valving are bad, it's
> seal will also be leaking oil. You didn't tell us whether you have the
> cushy, flimsy TJ designed to be bouncy, uncontrolled.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> I don't know much about shocks, but everytime I've picked up a new
>> shock
>> that someone is putting in, or on a store shelf, they are compressed, and
>> if
>> released they come out and are very hard to push back in. Well doing my
>> front axles I have shocks dissconnected, there is no bounce back in these
>> shocks, I can push them in to any point and that's were they will stay
>> till
>> I pull it out. So as I say, I don't know much about shocks, maybe lift
>> kit
>> shocks are different, this is an older Warn Black Diamond lift kit, only
>> reason I haven't put in a new lift kit is my articulation is fantastic.
>> But
>> can someone let me know if these are dead shocks?
>> Greg

Greg

Sorry, forgot to mention it's an 81 CJ7, narrow track, 3 1/2 " Black
Diamond lift, with Black Diamond shocks. I will wait till all is back
together and try the bounce test. Thanks to all who replied.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:442841E6.D3611B44@***.net...
> Hi Greg,
> Usually when the shock absorber piston and valving are bad, it's
> seal will also be leaking oil. You didn't tell us whether you have the
> cushy, flimsy TJ designed to be bouncy, uncontrolled.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> I don't know much about shocks, but everytime I've picked up a new
>> shock
>> that someone is putting in, or on a store shelf, they are compressed, and
>> if
>> released they come out and are very hard to push back in. Well doing my
>> front axles I have shocks dissconnected, there is no bounce back in these
>> shocks, I can push them in to any point and that's were they will stay
>> till
>> I pull it out. So as I say, I don't know much about shocks, maybe lift
>> kit
>> shocks are different, this is an older Warn Black Diamond lift kit, only
>> reason I haven't put in a new lift kit is my articulation is fantastic.
>> But
>> can someone let me know if these are dead shocks?
>> Greg

Jerry Bransford

Greg,

There are basically two different shock absorber designs being used
today. The first is hydraulic, which only resist movement in or out.
Whatever position they are in, they will resist moving to any other
position They do not expand on their own.

The second is gas charged, sometimes they are called nitros or
nitrogen-charged. Gas charged shocks do expand on their own and can be
difficult to compress by hand. One design, hydraulic vs. nitrogen, is
not necessarily better than the other, either can be more appropriate
for certain types of driving conditions.

Be aware that not all shocks that imply they are gas charged are indeed
actually gas charged. For example, Rancho's R5000 shocks are hydraulic,
not gas charged, so they will not expand out on their own... but
Rancho's marketing information is misleading enough to make you think
they are gas charged. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

Greg,

There are basically two different shock absorber designs being used
today. The first is hydraulic, which only resist movement in or out.
Whatever position they are in, they will resist moving to any other
position They do not expand on their own.

The second is gas charged, sometimes they are called nitros or
nitrogen-charged. Gas charged shocks do expand on their own and can be
difficult to compress by hand. One design, hydraulic vs. nitrogen, is
not necessarily better than the other, either can be more appropriate
for certain types of driving conditions.

Be aware that not all shocks that imply they are gas charged are indeed
actually gas charged. For example, Rancho's R5000 shocks are hydraulic,
not gas charged, so they will not expand out on their own... but
Rancho's marketing information is misleading enough to make you think
they are gas charged. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

Greg,

There are basically two different shock absorber designs being used
today. The first is hydraulic, which only resist movement in or out.
Whatever position they are in, they will resist moving to any other
position They do not expand on their own.

The second is gas charged, sometimes they are called nitros or
nitrogen-charged. Gas charged shocks do expand on their own and can be
difficult to compress by hand. One design, hydraulic vs. nitrogen, is
not necessarily better than the other, either can be more appropriate
for certain types of driving conditions.

Be aware that not all shocks that imply they are gas charged are indeed
actually gas charged. For example, Rancho's R5000 shocks are hydraulic,
not gas charged, so they will not expand out on their own... but
Rancho's marketing information is misleading enough to make you think
they are gas charged. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/