L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Quiet, just because the quads use coolant:
http://www.atvsource.com/manufacture...02/rubicon.htm let Bret
figure out why the engine cooked in the first place.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Good design for a wood chipper maybe. Jeeps do a lot of idle speed rock
> crawling. Any air cooled engine is going to overheat if idled too much. I
> think it's just a bad choice, like trying to learn Spanish or Arabic from
> cassette tapes. Then fly to Marrakech and try to get around. Your first
> day on the trail with the Deutz, if you get that far, is going to be like
> that.
>
> Bill will be glad you sprung for new cylinders though. :-)
>
> Earle

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Quiet, just because the quads use coolant:
http://www.atvsource.com/manufacture...02/rubicon.htm let Bret
figure out why the engine cooked in the first place.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Good design for a wood chipper maybe. Jeeps do a lot of idle speed rock
> crawling. Any air cooled engine is going to overheat if idled too much. I
> think it's just a bad choice, like trying to learn Spanish or Arabic from
> cassette tapes. Then fly to Marrakech and try to get around. Your first
> day on the trail with the Deutz, if you get that far, is going to be like
> that.
>
> Bill will be glad you sprung for new cylinders though. :-)
>
> Earle

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Quiet, just because the quads use coolant:
http://www.atvsource.com/manufacture...02/rubicon.htm let Bret
figure out why the engine cooked in the first place.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Good design for a wood chipper maybe. Jeeps do a lot of idle speed rock
> crawling. Any air cooled engine is going to overheat if idled too much. I
> think it's just a bad choice, like trying to learn Spanish or Arabic from
> cassette tapes. Then fly to Marrakech and try to get around. Your first
> day on the trail with the Deutz, if you get that far, is going to be like
> that.
>
> Bill will be glad you sprung for new cylinders though. :-)
>
> Earle

dr.ray st.louis

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Quiet, just because the quads use coolant:
> http://www.atvsource.com/manufacture...02/rubicon.htm let Bret
> figure out why the engine cooked in the first place.

Probably because the earlier air cooled quads were lacking a cooling
blower.

dr.ray st.louis

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Quiet, just because the quads use coolant:
> http://www.atvsource.com/manufacture...02/rubicon.htm let Bret
> figure out why the engine cooked in the first place.

Probably because the earlier air cooled quads were lacking a cooling
blower.

dr.ray st.louis

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Quiet, just because the quads use coolant:
> http://www.atvsource.com/manufacture...02/rubicon.htm let Bret
> figure out why the engine cooked in the first place.

Probably because the earlier air cooled quads were lacking a cooling
blower.

dr.ray st.louis

Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > The Deutz is a good design. i went out and got new cylinders, does
> > that make you happy?
> >
> Good design for a wood chipper maybe. Jeeps do a lot of idle speed rock
> crawling. Any air cooled engine is going to overheat if idled too much. I
> think it's just a bad choice, like trying to learn Spanish or Arabic from
> cassette tapes. Then fly to Marrakech and try to get around. Your first
> day on the trail with the Deutz, if you get that far, is going to be like
> that.

Deutz engines are used extensively in applications where that is
common. The air system is very sophisticated and keeps the engine cool
under about any condition except trying to make power under lugging
conditions. Provided he gears it to crawling at FAST idle and watches
his oil temps he will be fine.

The big problem with Deutzes is fouling of the cylinders with airborne
debris. Rock crawling should not be a problem.

Roadway Package Systems had Deutz powered delivery trucks and aside
from not having heat in the truck the reliability was astonishingly
good once the mechanics learned to maintain them properly.

dr.ray st.louis

Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > The Deutz is a good design. i went out and got new cylinders, does
> > that make you happy?
> >
> Good design for a wood chipper maybe. Jeeps do a lot of idle speed rock
> crawling. Any air cooled engine is going to overheat if idled too much. I
> think it's just a bad choice, like trying to learn Spanish or Arabic from
> cassette tapes. Then fly to Marrakech and try to get around. Your first
> day on the trail with the Deutz, if you get that far, is going to be like
> that.

Deutz engines are used extensively in applications where that is
common. The air system is very sophisticated and keeps the engine cool
under about any condition except trying to make power under lugging
conditions. Provided he gears it to crawling at FAST idle and watches
his oil temps he will be fine.

The big problem with Deutzes is fouling of the cylinders with airborne
debris. Rock crawling should not be a problem.

Roadway Package Systems had Deutz powered delivery trucks and aside
from not having heat in the truck the reliability was astonishingly
good once the mechanics learned to maintain them properly.

dr.ray st.louis

Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > The Deutz is a good design. i went out and got new cylinders, does
> > that make you happy?
> >
> Good design for a wood chipper maybe. Jeeps do a lot of idle speed rock
> crawling. Any air cooled engine is going to overheat if idled too much. I
> think it's just a bad choice, like trying to learn Spanish or Arabic from
> cassette tapes. Then fly to Marrakech and try to get around. Your first
> day on the trail with the Deutz, if you get that far, is going to be like
> that.

Deutz engines are used extensively in applications where that is
common. The air system is very sophisticated and keeps the engine cool
under about any condition except trying to make power under lugging
conditions. Provided he gears it to crawling at FAST idle and watches
his oil temps he will be fine.

The big problem with Deutzes is fouling of the cylinders with airborne
debris. Rock crawling should not be a problem.

Roadway Package Systems had Deutz powered delivery trucks and aside
from not having heat in the truck the reliability was astonishingly
good once the mechanics learned to maintain them properly.

Earle Horton

"dr.ray st.louis" <dr.raypua@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146172910.509707.106110@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > Quiet, just because the quads use coolant:
> > http://www.atvsource.com/manufacture...02/rubicon.htm let
> > Bret figure out why the engine cooked in the first place.
>
> Probably because the earlier air cooled quads were lacking a cooling
> blower.
>
It looks as if you may have tuned in late. Bret is planning to use an air
cooled Deutz engine, out of a wood chipper, that he got cheap because the
previous owner had cooked it.

Earle