Will Honea wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 04:38:12 UTC "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > ßill L. W. ------ III wrote:
> > > Keith Black hard block Hemis use two spark plugs:
> > > http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
> > > fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
> > > chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
> > > http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
> >
> > All the early 426 castings did, I can remember seeing a set in an auto
> > machine shop in '79 or so and asking. All the fuelers had two plugs and
> > some apparently had three. But NASCAR engines did too.
> >
> > Road race Aston Martins and Maseratis did too. The street versions
> > didn't, but the wealthy Europeans would promptly have them retrofitted.
> > The port in the head was there, sometimes with a dummy plug and
> > sometimes just undrilled and tapped. The hot setup was one mag and one
> > distributor, for easy starting and excellent top end. But getting them
> > synched was a bugger.
> >
> > Now electronic ignitions put out way more zap than a mag at ANY speed.
> > Magnetos are for museum pieces like vintage racers and Lycomings.
>
> You obviously are not a pilot. Twin mags are real comforting when the
> closest thing to level ground anywhere within gliding distance is
> either a lake surface or strewn with 6 foot boulders. Just like
> cylinder head temp. We could get much better mileage and power if we
> could manually lean the mixture - but who wants to drive constant RPM
> and futz with it? Besides, even half the pilots can't get it right.

1,338 TT when I lost my medical :-(
PP-ASMEL,Inst (single only),

I applied for a waiver, declined. If only I had simply not renewed,
I'd be eligible for Sport Pilot today. A pisser.

MOST pilots cannot operate a GTSIO Continental or TGIO Lyc properly.
It's a job for a FLIGHT ENGINEER, not a PILOT. Single pilot IFR in our
nightmarishly complex ATC system is tough enough in a
single-power-lever aircraft.

One mag, one electronic system with an electronically trimmed
mechanical FI system-called "supervisory" rather than "full
authority"-would give 99% of the redundancy of two mags plus provide
for single lever power control (especially if we got rid of free air
cooling, which worked on the A-65 in the J-3 pretty well but which has
no place on a 240 kt aircraft).

The average GA pilot IS NOT Yeager, Armstrong, or Hoover. And will
not, cannot, and does not want to be. Personal aircraft are consumer
products. We need to get rid of the fighter pilot mentality and design
for realistic owner-operation. That means single lever power control,
positive redundant electrical and/or vacuum sources for full panel (no
needle ball and alcohol crap-even the Air Force does not expect UPT
pupils to fly the T-38 that way) attitude display, and a few other
things. Combined with mandatory basic aerobatic training and airframes
that make even minimal use of crashworthiness lessons learned in
military helos and race cars, aviation can be made safe.

Of course you don't want that.

 

Will Honea wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 04:38:12 UTC "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > ßill L. W. ------ III wrote:
> > > Keith Black hard block Hemis use two spark plugs:
> > > http://www.----------.com/temp/ScottKalitta.jpg Which costs between
> > > fifty and a quarter of a million dollars. But not no other Chrysler Hemi
> > > chamber ever had an extra plugged hole:
> > > http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiChamber.jpg
> >
> > All the early 426 castings did, I can remember seeing a set in an auto
> > machine shop in '79 or so and asking. All the fuelers had two plugs and
> > some apparently had three. But NASCAR engines did too.
> >
> > Road race Aston Martins and Maseratis did too. The street versions
> > didn't, but the wealthy Europeans would promptly have them retrofitted.
> > The port in the head was there, sometimes with a dummy plug and
> > sometimes just undrilled and tapped. The hot setup was one mag and one
> > distributor, for easy starting and excellent top end. But getting them
> > synched was a bugger.
> >
> > Now electronic ignitions put out way more zap than a mag at ANY speed.
> > Magnetos are for museum pieces like vintage racers and Lycomings.
>
> You obviously are not a pilot. Twin mags are real comforting when the
> closest thing to level ground anywhere within gliding distance is
> either a lake surface or strewn with 6 foot boulders. Just like
> cylinder head temp. We could get much better mileage and power if we
> could manually lean the mixture - but who wants to drive constant RPM
> and futz with it? Besides, even half the pilots can't get it right.

1,338 TT when I lost my medical :-(
PP-ASMEL,Inst (single only),

I applied for a waiver, declined. If only I had simply not renewed,
I'd be eligible for Sport Pilot today. A pisser.

MOST pilots cannot operate a GTSIO Continental or TGIO Lyc properly.
It's a job for a FLIGHT ENGINEER, not a PILOT. Single pilot IFR in our
nightmarishly complex ATC system is tough enough in a
single-power-lever aircraft.

One mag, one electronic system with an electronically trimmed
mechanical FI system-called "supervisory" rather than "full
authority"-would give 99% of the redundancy of two mags plus provide
for single lever power control (especially if we got rid of free air
cooling, which worked on the A-65 in the J-3 pretty well but which has
no place on a 240 kt aircraft).

The average GA pilot IS NOT Yeager, Armstrong, or Hoover. And will
not, cannot, and does not want to be. Personal aircraft are consumer
products. We need to get rid of the fighter pilot mentality and design
for realistic owner-operation. That means single lever power control,
positive redundant electrical and/or vacuum sources for full panel (no
needle ball and alcohol crap-even the Air Force does not expect UPT
pupils to fly the T-38 that way) attitude display, and a few other
things. Combined with mandatory basic aerobatic training and airframes
that make even minimal use of crashworthiness lessons learned in
military helos and race cars, aviation can be made safe.

Of course you don't want that.

 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Those are two Mallory Magnetos sticking out of Doug's top fuel car:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/DougHerbert.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------

Dragsters have no electrics, and besides on fuel cars the ignition is
for start and idle. Once the run starts hitting the mag kill switch has
no effect.

Sprint cars also run mags.

 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Those are two Mallory Magnetos sticking out of Doug's top fuel car:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/DougHerbert.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------

Dragsters have no electrics, and besides on fuel cars the ignition is
for start and idle. Once the run starts hitting the mag kill switch has
no effect.

Sprint cars also run mags.

 

L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> Those are two Mallory Magnetos sticking out of Doug's top fuel car:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/DougHerbert.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------

Dragsters have no electrics, and besides on fuel cars the ignition is
for start and idle. Once the run starts hitting the mag kill switch has
no effect.

Sprint cars also run mags.

 

Will Honea wrote:

> You obviously are not a pilot. Twin mags are real comforting when the
> closest thing to level ground anywhere within gliding distance is
> either a lake surface or strewn with 6 foot boulders.

P.S. Ask your A&P about the dual mags on your Continental and the ONE
gear that drives both.

 

Will Honea wrote:

> You obviously are not a pilot. Twin mags are real comforting when the
> closest thing to level ground anywhere within gliding distance is
> either a lake surface or strewn with 6 foot boulders.

P.S. Ask your A&P about the dual mags on your Continental and the ONE
gear that drives both.

 

Will Honea wrote:

> You obviously are not a pilot. Twin mags are real comforting when the
> closest thing to level ground anywhere within gliding distance is
> either a lake surface or strewn with 6 foot boulders.

P.S. Ask your A&P about the dual mags on your Continental and the ONE
gear that drives both.

 

http://www.nhra.com/APCM/templates/t...7291&zoneid=86
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Dragsters have no electrics, and besides on fuel cars the ignition is
> for start and idle. Once the run starts hitting the mag kill switch has
> no effect.
>
> Sprint cars also run mags.

 

http://www.nhra.com/APCM/templates/t...7291&zoneid=86
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Dragsters have no electrics, and besides on fuel cars the ignition is
> for start and idle. Once the run starts hitting the mag kill switch has
> no effect.
>
> Sprint cars also run mags.